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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 31 @ 11:01 AM ET
Right here lol. Thanks for the PM by the way apparently to top champion thinks we are the same poster? Sharp like beach ball as most of the champs...


- LordHumungous

Now you PM yourself??
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 31 @ 11:02 AM ET
Now you PM yourself??
- Marwood

love has no borders?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 31 @ 11:06 AM ET
love has no borders?
- golfingsince

Like being at an electric car show...

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 31 @ 11:08 AM ET
Now you PM yourself??
- Marwood

No dude just highlighting your intelligence...

NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Aug 31 @ 11:15 AM ET
love has no borders?
- golfingsince


Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 31 @ 11:17 AM ET
No dude just highlighting your intelligence...


- LordHumungous

By PMing yourself?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 31 @ 11:17 AM ET


Nuckerwhatever
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 11.12.2016

Aug 31 @ 11:37 AM ET
By PMing yourself?
- Marwood

Looks like micro penis ban has ended, now he and his alt can stroke each other by lying back and forth.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Aug 31 @ 1:00 PM ET
Looks like micro penis ban has ended, now he and his alt can stroke each other by lying back and forth.
- Nuckerwhatever


Was he driving a Jeep Grand Cherokee in NJ?
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 31 @ 1:04 PM ET
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 31 @ 2:05 PM ET

I thought Lefty was the biggest moron around, forgot how much bigger of a moron Micro Penis is.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 31 @ 3:37 PM ET
2nd back of chips into the smoker, I guess I'll be up again at 2 am.
- A_SteamingLombardi




I just use the Bradley Smoker these days. Automated pellet feed, easy temp control.

I have a old system here that came with the house. A fridge on top of a old wood stove. Too big for our needs. Thought about using it for large chunks of venison but I am not a big fan of taking a very healthy piece of venison and infusing it with so much salt and nitrates...


DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Aug 31 @ 3:52 PM ET
Was he driving a Jeep Grand Cherokee in NJ?
- Quinn's Quest


Ok, dude... just not cool... too soon and not funny
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 31 @ 3:53 PM ET


I just use the Bradley Smoker these days. Automated pellet feed, easy temp control.

I have a old system here that came with the house. A fridge on top of a old wood stove. Too big for our needs. Thought about using it for large chunks of venison but I am not a big fan of taking a very healthy piece of venison and infusing it with so much salt and nitrates...

- boonerbuck

I just had a smoked jowl sandwich, thin rye bread, cream cheese and red onion hmmmm.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 31 @ 4:40 PM ET
Ok, dude... just not cool... too soon and not funny
- DariusKnight


Much like the Red Deer Redneck, he is an idiot
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Aug 31 @ 5:12 PM ET
So to get this blog back on track....
How is it that Carolina just resigned Jarvis using a deferred contract, in essence extending his contact length over 9 years instead of the max contract of 8 years?
Apparently, this has always existed in the current CBA yet is never used. Major
un-loophole that teams amazingly have not used up to this point. Now watch, Cap strapped teams will go crazy exploiting this, ala the Oilers to resign Mc D, Drai, Bouch and Skinner. While teams like the Canucks already have their big guns signed and are capped out. What is the max dollars that can be deferred and over what timeframe? Can the Oilers give Drai a max dollar % deal x 8 years but defer it over 16 years, to halve the Cap hit? Like WTF?
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Aug 31 @ 5:18 PM ET
As per Daily Faceoff,

The larger question now is: Who will be the next NHL team to replicate this type of deferred contract? And how big of a salary cap discount will the NHL allow before this blurs the line of cap circumvention?

The Jarvis contract has the ability to be a precedent setter for the entire league. Deferred payments can exploit the salary cap hit the larger the payment and the longer it extends, and it isn’t difficult to conjure up a real-world example – especially for a player who is entering a third contract, has already put a significant amount of money in the bank, and has a competitive appetite to provide his team with more salary cap ammunition because he has an insatiable desire to win.

Take Hart Trophy winner Leon Draisaitl and the contract he is currently negotiating with the Edmonton Oilers. Sources indicate Draisaitl’s initial ask on a long-term deal was north of $14 million per year on average. Let’s call it $14.2 million for example and argument sake. That is a total of $113.6 million over eight years, which yes, would typically come with a salary cap charge of $14.2 million on the AAV.

What if Draisaitl was hypothetically willing to defer $33.6 million of that contract to be paid out over the 40 years after the deal expires? That would be approximately $840,000 per year from 2033 until 2073, and yes, we’re talking a Bobby Bonilla-type contract. That would pay Draisaitl $80 million over the first eight years of the deal, hypothetically making for a cap hit in the neighborhood of $10 million per year – or a discount of $4.2 million per year of the deal.

carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Aug 31 @ 5:19 PM ET
This is FUKed.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 31 @ 5:34 PM ET
I just had a smoked jowl sandwich, thin rye bread, cream cheese and red onion hmmmm.
- A_SteamingLombardi



K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Aug 31 @ 6:44 PM ET
Was he driving a Jeep Grand Cherokee in NJ?
- Quinn's Quest

What a douche bag comment. No wonder people call you stupid.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 31 @ 7:05 PM ET
As per Daily Faceoff,

The larger question now is: Who will be the next NHL team to replicate this type of deferred contract? And how big of a salary cap discount will the NHL allow before this blurs the line of cap circumvention?

The Jarvis contract has the ability to be a precedent setter for the entire league. Deferred payments can exploit the salary cap hit the larger the payment and the longer it extends, and it isn’t difficult to conjure up a real-world example – especially for a player who is entering a third contract, has already put a significant amount of money in the bank, and has a competitive appetite to provide his team with more salary cap ammunition because he has an insatiable desire to win.

Take Hart Trophy winner Leon Draisaitl and the contract he is currently negotiating with the Edmonton Oilers. Sources indicate Draisaitl’s initial ask on a long-term deal was north of $14 million per year on average. Let’s call it $14.2 million for example and argument sake. That is a total of $113.6 million over eight years, which yes, would typically come with a salary cap charge of $14.2 million on the AAV.

What if Draisaitl was hypothetically willing to defer $33.6 million of that contract to be paid out over the 40 years after the deal expires? That would be approximately $840,000 per year from 2033 until 2073, and yes, we’re talking a Bobby Bonilla-type contract. That would pay Draisaitl $80 million over the first eight years of the deal, hypothetically making for a cap hit in the neighborhood of $10 million per year – or a discount of $4.2 million per year of the deal.

- carsonagenic

It doesn't effect me. You have to realize this entity (NHL) is just a business owned by 32 billionaires, some are just happy to be there and other long time owners push their weight around. It's a club if you get more members on your side you get your way. Nothing we can do about it, the billionaires pay for the lawyers.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Aug 31 @ 7:47 PM ET
It doesn't effect me. You have to realize this entity (NHL) is just a business owned by 32 billionaires, some are just happy to be there and other long time owners push their weight around. It's a club if you get more members on your side you get your way. Nothing we can do about it, the billionaires pay for the lawyers.
- A_SteamingLombardi

True.
Sweet Fuk all we can do, but once again the GM's find a way to get past the Cap. And if the Canucks did this.....RETROACTIVE PENALTY ala Luongo
BTW Nice Sandwich! Boss Hog Jowls
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 31 @ 8:38 PM ET
Was he driving a Jeep Grand Cherokee in NJ?
- Quinn's Quest

A true NFU. Shocker.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 31 @ 8:45 PM ET


LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 31 @ 8:49 PM ET
So to get this blog back on track....
How is it that Carolina just resigned Jarvis using a deferred contract, in essence extending his contact length over 9 years instead of the max contract of 8 years?
Apparently, this has always existed in the current CBA yet is never used. Major
un-loophole that teams amazingly have not used up to this point. Now watch, Cap strapped teams will go crazy exploiting this, ala the Oilers to resign Mc D, Drai, Bouch and Skinner. While teams like the Canucks already have their big guns signed and are capped out. What is the max dollars that can be deferred and over what timeframe? Can the Oilers give Drai a max dollar % deal x 8 years but defer it over 16 years, to halve the Cap hit? Like WTF?

- carsonagenic

Oil have one more year of Drai at 8 mil then it's Leafs territory vs the cap. If they don't make it back to the cup finals in 2025 and win probably won't happen after that.

Canucks I think will reach the finals by 2028.
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