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JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Sep 5 @ 12:20 PM ET
He’s got almost no relevant skills relating to the modern game. He’s an old time defenseman in a world that has passed him by
- picklerick



Couldn't agree more.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Sep 5 @ 12:28 PM ET
Couldn't agree more.
- JRR1285


Although these types of positions always felt completely unecessary to me. Don’t get how they justify the salaries they cost
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Sep 5 @ 12:37 PM ET
jesus guys

not too long ago in early September people would be getting amped up, talking line combos, potential PTO invites, pre-season games, the schedule, anything

are people just done with this team?

- jimbro83


Not many story lines heading in to camp. Team pretty much the same. Hope berard and othmann make the team.
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Sep 5 @ 12:38 PM ET
Although these types of positions always felt completely unecessary to me. Don’t get how they justify the salaries they cost
- picklerick


Like staal, but agree they have gone this route of former players being skill coaches. Has not really worked out
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Sep 5 @ 12:46 PM ET
Like staal, but agree they have gone this route of former players being skill coaches. Has not really worked out
- nyrangers2


The last time he was good was 2012/2013. He played for 10 more years after that. He’s got a case of hockey player over the age of 25 personality syndrome, which is to say, he has none. I don’t get the appeal from a skills or culture fit. He’s helping Hartford defensemen . WHY
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 5 @ 1:05 PM ET
My personal opinion is it was silly and drew unnecessary attention to the Staals to do what they did and how they did it. I also understand that MSG clearly does not care that much about any of that given how they handled the pride stuff last season. I am not offended that he was hired, nor am i surprised. It just is. He sucks though,
- picklerick
like he's a plain vanilla piece of white bread that thinks missionary sex is exotic.
Not sure what he has to add.

Ultimately I don't care, but I can understand if there are people who do. No one is being cancelled. He was hired. That's the opposite of cancelling.




Whoa!! So you are like one of these guys who is into pegging????
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 5 @ 1:10 PM ET
Judge said 10 years? Unbelievable!
- Fenrir

I'm assuming NJ laws are relatively similar to NY here...but my best friend's sister died in 2000 when the drunk driver of the convertible she was in flipped it and killed her and another person. He only got 9 years.

So if the guy that killed the Gaudreau's has no priors (I have no idea if he does or doesn't), that sentence sounds about on par.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Sep 5 @ 1:10 PM ET
Whoa!! So you are like one of these guys who is into pegging????
- Brukie


There’s an entire ocean in between missionary sex and pegging
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Sep 5 @ 1:17 PM ET
There’s an entire ocean in between missionary sex and pegging
- picklerick



It's all holes.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 5 @ 1:23 PM ET
There’s an entire ocean in between missionary sex and pegging
- picklerick

That's a really long strap-on
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Sep 5 @ 1:28 PM ET
I'm assuming NJ laws are relatively similar to NY here...but my best friend's sister died in 2000 when the drunk driver of the convertible she was in flipped it and killed her and another person. He only got 9 years.

So if the guy that killed the Gaudreau's has no priors (I have no idea if he does or doesn't), that sentence sounds about on par.

- eichiefs9



But with two counts shouldn't they stack?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 5 @ 1:38 PM ET
But with two counts shouldn't they stack?
- JRR1285

Another person died along with my friend's sister, so it was two people that died in both instances.

I spent 10 minutes trying to find more info on her accident with no real luck but was at least able to find what he was charged with:

manslaughter in the second degree (two counts), vehicular manslaughter in the second degree (two counts), assault in the second degree, vehicular assault in the second degree, and driving while intoxicated

If I recall, there was a fourth person in the car in addition to my friend's sister and the other one that died (and the driver) that lived...which would explain the singular assault and vehicular assault charges.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Sep 5 @ 3:51 PM ET
Another person died along with my friend's sister, so it was two people that died in both instances.

I spent 10 minutes trying to find more info on her accident with no real luck but was at least able to find what he was charged with:

manslaughter in the second degree (two counts), vehicular manslaughter in the second degree (two counts), assault in the second degree, vehicular assault in the second degree, and driving while intoxicated

If I recall, there was a fourth person in the car in addition to my friend's sister and the other one that died (and the driver) that lived...which would explain the singular assault and vehicular assault charges.

- eichiefs9


Based on my extremely limited understanding of this kind of thing, i think that stacking charges helps with expediting convictions/pleas and reduces the chances of costly and lengthy trials
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Sep 5 @ 4:11 PM ET
He’s got almost no relevant skills relating to the modern game. He’s an old time defenseman in a world that has passed him by
- picklerick


He is a guy that sustained major eye and head injuries, as well as whatever other more minor afflictions, but managed to keep himself in good enough shape to still be in the league at 37 and play over 1100 games. All while blocking almost 1450 shots and dishing out well over 1600 hits.
None of you think he might have some knowledge to share about keeping yourself ready to play in the league? I don't have a definition of Player Development, but it doesn't have to just mean on ice play.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Sep 5 @ 4:15 PM ET
He is a guy that sustained major eye and head injuries, as well as whatever other more minor afflictions, but managed to keep himself in good enough shape to still be in the league at 37 and play over 1100 games. All while blocking almost 1450 shots and dishing out well over 1600 hits.
None of you think he might have some knowledge to share about keeping yourself ready to play in the league?

- Tonybere


This is like some weird silly version of survivorship bias. Maybe you don't want the guy who was a magnet for head injuries teaching the youts how to keep their heads up?

Half joking here.... But none of this changes anything about anything. It's just a way to get a former players name in the org and drum up some PR. I just think he's so boring and can't possibly relate to 20 year old defensemen from a hockey or just hanging out and not being weird perspective to the point that it makes me laugh a bit
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 5 @ 4:51 PM ET
This is like some weird silly version of survivorship bias. Maybe you don't want the guy who was a magnet for head injuries teaching the youts how to keep their heads up?

Half joking here.... But none of this changes anything about anything. It's just a way to get a former players name in the org and drum up some PR. I just think he's so boring and can't possibly relate to 20 year old defensemen from a hockey or just hanging out and not being weird perspective to the point that it makes me laugh a bit

- picklerick



This organization doesnt need any PR, the Garden sells out no matter what.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Sep 5 @ 4:55 PM ET
This organization doesnt need any PR, the Garden sells out no matter what.
- Brukie


Even dumber then
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Sep 5 @ 5:02 PM ET
This is like some weird silly version of survivorship bias. Maybe you don't want the guy who was a magnet for head injuries teaching the youts how to keep their heads up?

Half joking here.... But none of this changes anything about anything. It's just a way to get a former players name in the org and drum up some PR. I just think he's so boring and can't possibly relate to 20 year old defensemen from a hockey or just hanging out and not being weird perspective to the point that it makes me laugh a bit

- picklerick


Dude, he got a major concussion from squaring off to throw punches with his own brother and was never the same again. That is a far cry from not knowing how to keep his head up. That is actually a guy that has proven he will do anything for his team.
I'm not trying to crusade on Staal's behalf, nor do I believe he is some saviour. But, it seems silly and arrogant to be so negative toward a guy that literally bled for the NYR over him getting a position that none of us even know the parameters of. Do you know what his duties will be? If not, how can you feel justified in saying he's not qualified to do it? We literally know nothing here.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Sep 5 @ 5:13 PM ET
Dude, he got a major concussion from squaring off to throw punches with his own brother and was never the same again. That is a far cry from not knowing how to keep his head up. That is actually a guy that has proven he will do anything for his team.
I'm not trying to crusade on Staal's behalf, nor do I believe he is some saviour. But, it seems silly and arrogant to be so negative toward a guy that literally bled for the NYR over him getting a position that none of us even know the parameters of. Do you know what his duties will be? If not, how can you feel justified in saying he's not qualified to do it? We literally know nothing here.

- Tonybere


His duties as i understand them are as a skills coach for the Hartford defensemen. I cannot imagine it would make a difference if it were him, someone else, or no one doing that job. I think he's really, really, boring and uncharismatic. Like a huge percentage of NHL players. Sue me
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Sep 5 @ 5:59 PM ET
His duties as i understand them are as a skills coach for the Hartford defensemen. I cannot imagine it would make a difference if it were him, someone else, or no one doing that job. I think he's really, really, boring and uncharismatic. Like a huge percentage of NHL players. Sue me
- picklerick


Fair enough. He's certainly quite vanilla. I just don't dismiss the effect of mentorship from someone that played 17 seasons in the NHL on young players trying to get there. Regardless of his pedigree, that has to contain many useful pieces of information.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Sep 5 @ 8:31 PM ET
Can anyone else not read or write on this site due to pop up anymore? It’s insane. I have to screenshot pages just to read them before the thing goes bonkers
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Sep 5 @ 8:36 PM ET
I’ll never forget the Staal eye injury, that was one of the more scarier moments for a rangers player that I can remember. Seeing his eyeball go back into his skull basically

Good for him getting this job, he was a good Ranger.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Sep 5 @ 8:44 PM ET
Can anyone else not read or write on this site due to pop up anymore? It’s insane. I have to screenshot pages just to read them before the thing goes bonkers
- Slimtj100



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banger94
Season Ticket Holder
New York Rangers
Joined: 04.11.2024

Sep 5 @ 8:57 PM ET




How about 1 TD from every week 1 game to get the juices flowing

- picklerick

1 down 15 to go
MeanestOfTimes
New York Rangers
Location: Huntington, NY
Joined: 03.19.2012

Sep 5 @ 9:24 PM ET
Not many story lines heading in to camp. Team pretty much the same. Hope berard and othmann make the team.
- nyrangers2

Still think Berard is a long shot without blowing everyone away at camp. Where do we realistically slot Othmann if he makes the team?
Would hope the org wouldn’t strong him along as the 13F.
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