Because at times he seems disinterest in playing hockey and just going through the motions. Does the least amount of effort needed.
- WhiskeyMan

the flyers management, who you trust, looks like they felt differently.

short term 2-year deal (doesn't hurt you long term) who would hopefully add some offense to a team looking to make the playoffs. Maybe he plays well and you flip him with retention.

Wonder if the story is true and Laine nixed it or did torts nix it when CO-GM Danny presented it to him.......

Because at times he seems disinterest in playing hockey and just going through the motions. Does the least amount of effort needed.
- WhiskeyMan

Between his reported affinity for Fortnight, his reported affinity for substances not conducive to playing good hockey, and him seemingly not being a Tortorella type player, I don't think it would have been a good way to spend 8.7 million for two seasons.

Between his reported affinity for Fortnight, his reported affinity for substances not conducive to playing good hockey, and him seemingly not being a Tortorella type player, I don't think it would have been a good way to spend 8.7 million for two seasons.
- MBFlyerfan

Do you think the flyers did their due diligence on this? Do you think torts was consulted?

Or did they just decide to pursue him on a whim?

doesnt really seem like a guy who fits into the Flyers "culture". I thought Torts was running things in the Flyerdom? Did Danny forget to run it by the boss before he tried to make this trade?
- Dkos

I don't care about the culture. Why would the Flyers want to get better in that manner? It makes zero sense.

Do you think the flyers did their due diligence on this? Do you think torts was consulted?

Or did they just decide to pursue him on a whim?
- hello it's me 2050

Honestly I don't care. I was telling you why I wouldn't want him on the team. Its blatantly obvious that how I would do things and how the triumvirate do things is quite different.


But if I had to guess, Im sure Briere consulted Torts, Torts gave him his, "I can work with anyone" speech like he probably did with say, Gurianov, and in the end, Laine said no fuc#ing way am I playing for that a$$hat ever again.

Laine reportedly refused a trade to Minnesota as well.
- 77rams

The Wild preferred McGroarty and were in talks for months. The Jets probably were reluctant to trade with a division rival. Then they pivoted to Laine. They dodged a bullet.

It is becoming worrisome for sure. Krug, Cutter, Laine (if true), RyJo and possibly Kolosov. Personally I am not upset this deal was nixed.
- mickel25

It isnt worrisome. All seperate things. People also overestimate how much people wanted to come to PHI in the 1st place. People wanted to come to PHI in the past because we would throw money at UFAs, Money other teams didnt have. That has changed, All Teams can now make those signings.

Krug would not be likely to go anywhere other than a Contender. Not sure why anyone would believe Krug would want to go from one bubble team to the next

RyJo situation is all because the Flyers dont want him on the roster. He was willing to try and make things work before the Flyers tried to demote.

Kolosov is also not saying he doesnt want to play for PHI. He doesnt want to play for Allentown. He'd rather stay in the KHL where he is comfortable. Personally I think its a bit shortsighted on his part because the Flyers dont care about Petersen, he is gone next year. He has the benefit of having the Goalie Coach to himself for the 1 year before Bjarnasson joins the Phantoms. If he had a spot on the Flyers I believe hed come over no questions asked. That being said he has a shot to still be on the team as Neither Ersson nor Fedotov are locks. If either struggle and cant find their game, Kolosov gets his chance. They arent going to use Petersen, they refused to use him last season because he was so bad. That is why Ersson played 80% of the final 35 games.

Cutter We still dont know what went wrong. We likely never know.

Laine is frankly just a rumour. Even if true he is someone that clashed with Torts in the past so it makes sense he wouldnt want to do that again. Im not sold on this being true because I dont see where Laine fits or why we'd be interested in a Winger at all.

Honestly I don't care. I was telling you why I wouldn't want him on the team. Its blatantly obvious that how I would do things and how the triumvirate do things is quite different.


But if I had to guess, Im sure Briere consulted Torts, Torts gave him his, "I can work with anyone" speech like he probably did with say, Gurianov, and in the end, Laine said no fuc#ing way am I playing for that a$$hat ever again.
- MBFlyerfan

An approval from Tortorella is worthless. We've seen a number of times where once the player is on board, Tortorella has issues after giving approval. It's looking more and more like this rumor is true and if so, it's a sign of an extremely dysfunctional front office.

It isnt worrisome. All seperate things. People also overestimate how much people wanted to come to PHI in the 1st place. People wanted to come to PHI in the past because we would throw money at UFAs, Money other teams didnt have. That has changed, All Teams can now make those signings.

Krug would not be likely to go anywhere other than a Contender. Not sure why anyone would believe Krug would want to go from one bubble team to the next

RyJo situation is all because the Flyers dont want him on the roster. He was willing to try and make things work before the Flyers tried to demote.

Kolosov is also not saying he doesnt want to play for PHI. He doesnt want to play for Allentown. He'd rather stay in the KHL where he is comfortable. Personally I think its a bit shortsighted on his part because the Flyers dont care about Petersen, he is gone next year. He has the benefit of having the Goalie Coach to himself for the 1 year before Bjarnasson joins the Phantoms. If he had a spot on the Flyers I believe hed come over no questions asked. That being said he has a shot to still be on the team as Neither Ersson nor Fedotov are locks. If either struggle and cant find their game, Kolosov gets his chance. They arent going to use Petersen, they refused to use him last season because he was so bad. That is why Ersson played 80% of the final 35 games.

Cutter We still dont know what went wrong. We likely never know.

Laine is frankly just a rumour. Even if true he is someone that clashed with Torts in the past so it makes sense he wouldnt want to do that again. Im not sold on this being true because I dont see where Laine fits or why we'd be interested in a Winger at all.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Ersson and Fedetov are locks for the roster.


We know what went on with Gauthier. It's not hard to figure out.

Waaaa...waaaa...waaa...no one wants to play in Philly. For one thing, no one knows if the Laine story is true cause I have yet to see a REAL source revealed and even if it is true, who cares? Laine isn't a winner and never will be. Leon for 14 mil a year? So what are they gonna have to pay McJesus? They also have to reup Bouchard in the near future. Yikes! Good thing the cap will prolly be over 100 million in a couple of years.

Waaaa...waaaa...waaa...no one wants to play in Philly. For one thing, no one knows if the Laine story is true cause I have yet to see a REAL source revealed and even if it is true, who cares? Laine isn't a winner and never will be. Leon for 14 mil a year? So what are they gonna have to pay McJesus? They also have to reup Bouchard in the near future. Yikes! Good thing the cap will prolly be over 100 million in a couple of years.
- Phillywhiteout

“When you’re not spending $12 million on a player, or even two like Edmonton does…Colorado has three or four high-end guys. We’re not going to be built that way.”

What NHL GM sad that above?

After selling off a good chunk of their core over the last 12 months, the Flames are still fully in retool mode. General manager Craig Conroy continues to listen to trade inquiries regarding defensemen Rasmus Andersson and MacKenzie Weegar, as well as center Nazem Kadri, David Pagnotta of The Fourth Period reports.

doesnt really seem like a guy who fits into the Flyers "culture". I thought Torts was running things in the Flyerdom? Did Danny forget to run it by the boss before he tried to make this trade?
- Dkos

I thought the same

Objectively speaking, I don’t care about the relationship between the coach and the players. I also don’t care if the players all like each other. Patrick Laine is a RW and we could fill the entire time 6 with only right wingers alone. Konency, Tippett, Michkov, Foerster, Brink, Hathaway. It’s getting kinda ridiculous.

After selling off a good chunk of their core over the last 12 months, the Flames are still fully in retool mode. General manager Craig Conroy continues to listen to trade inquiries regarding defensemen Rasmus Andersson and MacKenzie Weegar, as well as center Nazem Kadri, David Pagnotta of The Fourth Period reports.
- hello it's me 2050

Frost and a pick for Kadri incoming

why would you have an issue with Laine coming to the flyers?
- hello it's me 2050

Look at the drop-off in production and injuries after getting traded

It isnt worrisome. All seperate things. People also overestimate how much people wanted to come to PHI in the 1st place. People wanted to come to PHI in the past because we would throw money at UFAs, Money other teams didnt have. That has changed, All Teams can now make those signings.

Krug would not be likely to go anywhere other than a Contender. Not sure why anyone would believe Krug would want to go from one bubble team to the next

RyJo situation is all because the Flyers dont want him on the roster. He was willing to try and make things work before the Flyers tried to demote.

Kolosov is also not saying he doesnt want to play for PHI. He doesnt want to play for Allentown. He'd rather stay in the KHL where he is comfortable. Personally I think its a bit shortsighted on his part because the Flyers dont care about Petersen, he is gone next year. He has the benefit of having the Goalie Coach to himself for the 1 year before Bjarnasson joins the Phantoms. If he had a spot on the Flyers I believe hed come over no questions asked. That being said he has a shot to still be on the team as Neither Ersson nor Fedotov are locks. If either struggle and cant find their game, Kolosov gets his chance. They arent going to use Petersen, they refused to use him last season because he was so bad. That is why Ersson played 80% of the final 35 games.

Cutter We still dont know what went wrong. We likely never know.

Laine is frankly just a rumour. Even if true he is someone that clashed with Torts in the past so it makes sense he wouldnt want to do that again. Im not sold on this being true because I dont see where Laine fits or why we'd be interested in a Winger at all.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Hello mediocre kevin (frank)ing hayes

when they have money they will spend it

it has been reported that hayes wanted an overpayment to sign -- and he got it -- they are still paying that mbumhole

An approval from Tortorella is worthless. We've seen a number of times where once the player is on board, Tortorella has issues after giving approval. It's looking more and more like this rumor is true and if so, it's a sign of an extremely dysfunctional front office.
- MJL

DeAngelo is cashing checks as we female dog

Look at the drop-off in production and injuries after getting traded
- corduroy

Put up:
21/22 - 56 points in 56 games
22/23 - 52 points in 55 games
23/24 - 9 in 18 games

Production isn’t the issue. Staying on the ice is and a very valid concern.

konecny's contract doesn't look so bad seeing what's thrown out there now

konecny's contract doesn't look so bad seeing what's thrown out there now
- 2Real

Are you comparing Konecny's contract to Draisaitl's? The issue was never whether they overpaid Konecny, it was whether a rebuilding team should sign him to a contract that ends when he's 36 or trade him to help the rebuild.

The Flyers continue to show that rebuild is a farce and that the only thing holding them from going hog wild is lack of cap space.

This question really needs to be asked. What high level aging free agents have the Flyers signed in the last 10 years? I keep hearing the only thing that is keeping them from going hog wild is the fact that they have no cap space. Is this really true or just a myth that many folks like to repeat as the ongoing agenda? I mean, Hextall signed JVR and Chuckles signed Hayes, but neither one of them is exactly high level. I dunno...

Ersson and Fedetov are locks for the roster.


We know what went on with Gauthier. It's not hard to figure out.
- MJL

Ersson and Fedotov are locks to start. If they suck they are not locks to keep their jobs. Briere has also been quoted in saying if players play well and should make the team, he would make room for them. If Kolosov comes over and playes well and the other two are not, they will give him a shot.

What went on with Gauthier? He's said nothing aside from it was a combination of things and dont give me this bull about him wanting to sign immediately. A player would leverage something like that to get a deal, not just demand a trade and ghost the team without a second thought. He didnt even sign with ANH after the trade. He signed at the end of the season and played 1 game at the end of the season.

This question really needs to be asked. What high level aging free agents have the Flyers signed in the last 10 years? I keep hearing the only thing that is keeping them from going hog wild is the fact that they have no cap space. Is this really true or just a myth that many folks like to repeat as the ongoing agenda? I mean, Hextall signed JVR and Chuckles signed Hayes, but neither one of them is exactly high level. I dunno...
- Phillywhiteout

Not high level but they were some of the best FAs of their FA years. Dont forget JVR was also coming off a career high 36 goal season when Hexy signed him. If Fletcher had more space, he would have thrown money at others. Gaudreau most likely would have been a Flyer if we had the space. Fletcher did recognize we needed to get younger and rebuild but he didnt really have any sort of plan. He had one foot in the rebuild pool and one foot into the contend pools. There was no clear direction

Are you comparing Konecny's contract to Draisaitl's? The issue was never whether they overpaid Konecny, it was whether a rebuilding team should sign him to a contract that ends when he's 36 or trade him to help the rebuild.

The Flyers continue to show that rebuild is a farce and that the only thing holding them from going hog wild is lack of cap space.
- Flyers_01

lmao elite talent rarely becomes available so we're just going to surround michkov with scrubs?