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Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Sep 15 @ 6:36 PM ET
this election cannot come soon enough so we're done with it.
- fidopro

The US are always in election mode ... the partisanship is pathological at this point.
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Sep 15 @ 6:36 PM ET
glad we see it the same way.
- Gramps28

deadpoulet scrambling to get his conspiracy crown back
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Sep 15 @ 6:37 PM ET
shocking.
-gramps

- Pat1993

he is just doing his contrarian thing.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 15 @ 6:37 PM ET
he is just doing his contrarian thing.
- Gramps28


fo sho. lol.
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Sep 15 @ 6:38 PM ET
he is just doing his contrarian thing.
- Gramps28

Ah yes, the contrarian stance of it was an actual attempt
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 15 @ 6:39 PM ET
Ah yes, the contrarian stance of it was an actual attempt
- mr.peanut


being a contrarian about being a contrarian is a great way to be a contrarian.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Sep 15 @ 6:44 PM ET
Yeah, drafting smurfs has brought us nowhere for 30 years.

Unless a player is above average in skills, always draft players who are bigger and pack a lot of muscle. This is a contact sport after all.

- Garfield512


Hutson dit coucou
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 15 @ 6:45 PM ET
Habs golf tournament tomorrow morning,
another good news!
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 15 @ 6:46 PM ET
Hutson dit coucou
- deadpoulet


en effet lol.. les Tinordi pi les McCarron disent aussi bonjour, c'était gros et grand mais c'était pas tant bourré de talent non plus.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Sep 15 @ 6:48 PM ET
en effet lol.. les Tinordi pi les McCarron disent aussi bonjour, c'était gros et grand mais c'était pas tant bourré de talent non plus.
- Pat1993


Caufield aussi, cest juste ridicule comme argument de ne pas regarder le talent du joueur en question
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 15 @ 6:48 PM ET
en effet lol.. les Tinordi pi les McCarron disent aussi bonjour, c'était gros et grand mais c'était pas tant bourré de talent non plus.
- Pat1993

both are still playing in the league Pat, something Mesar will probably never do lol
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Sep 15 @ 6:49 PM ET
Ah yes, the contrarian stance of it was an actual attempt
- mr.peanut

right
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 15 @ 6:52 PM ET
both are still playing in the league Pat, something Mesar will probably never do lol
- fidopro



my point remains that drafting bigger isn't necessarily drafting better, I'm not trying to compare those 3 players in particular. sure, smaller players might have to work harder but it doesn't mean they can't be regular NHLers.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Sep 15 @ 6:52 PM ET
Hutson dit coucou
- deadpoulet

Please read again what I said about smaller players with above average skills.

To quote myself:
"Unless a player is above average in skills, always draft players who are bigger and pack a lot of muscle. This is a contact sport after all."
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 15 @ 6:54 PM ET
my point remains that drafting bigger isn't necessarily drafting better, I'm not trying to compare those 3 players in particular. sure, smaller players might have to work harder but it doesn't mean they can't be regular NHLers.
- Pat1993

absolutely. but they need to be better, much better. what I was saying.

the other thing is that when you already have many small players... you try not to draft more small players. a big team like Vegas, or DAL, or WASH... yes you can add a small player to your roster. Habs... not really, they have more than enough as it is.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Sep 15 @ 6:55 PM ET
Please read again what I said about smaller players with above average skills.
- Garfield512


drafting a player because he is big is stupid, they need to have talent as well
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Sep 15 @ 6:59 PM ET
drafting a player because he is big is stupid, they need to have talent as well
- deadpoulet

Michael McCarron and Jarrod Tinordi have panned out. More Big.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 15 @ 6:59 PM ET
absolutely. but they need to be better, much better. what I was saying.

the other thing is that when you already have many small players... you try not to draft more small players. a big team like Vegas, or DAL, or WASH... yes you can add a small player to your roster. Habs... not really, they have more than enough as it is.

- fidopro


like McDavid...?


but yes, as I said earlier, I agree that for the habs at this particular point in time, they need to be looking to add size. that being said, talent and skills still need to be considered, so it might be best in some cases to go with a smaller pick if you know that he'll be the better player and have better trade value down the line than another bigger available guy.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 15 @ 7:00 PM ET
like McDavid...?


but yes, as I said earlier, I agree that for the habs at this particular point in time, they need to be looking to add size. that being said, talent and skills still need to be considered, so it might be best in some cases to go with a smaller pick if you know that he'll be the better player and have better trade value than another bigger available guy.

- Pat1993

that was a little bit exagerated but you got the point.
and sure, noone ever said to draft on size only. that's plain stupid.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 15 @ 7:01 PM ET
Michael McCarron and Jarrod Tinordi have panned out. More Big.
- mr.peanut


certainly not as advertised, no...
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 15 @ 7:02 PM ET
certainly not as advertised, no...
- Pat1993


that's another problem

you think they would still be around if they were 5'7?
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Sep 15 @ 7:03 PM ET
certainly not as advertised, no...
- Pat1993

No they were advertised as they have size “and you can’t teach size”
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 15 @ 7:04 PM ET
that's another problem

you think they would still be around if they were 5'7?

- fidopro



I would love to see stats pertaining to size, injuries, and career length... I think the "smaller = fragile" theory is a myth, or at least greatly exaggerated.
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Sep 15 @ 7:05 PM ET
Just got an Enzo Amore and Big Cass flashback
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Sep 15 @ 7:08 PM ET
drafting a player because he is big is stupid, they need to have talent as well
- deadpoulet

Look at the teams who have won the cup in the last 20 years ... not many were packed with smurfs. They might have one or two but these guys are usually stars.

The playoffs grind is real and is meant for big boys. Whether we like it or not, this is not a game for light weights come playoff time.
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