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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Robertson Issue Resolved……For Now, Winger Signs One-Year Deal With Leafs
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Sep 10 @ 3:22 PM ET
Patches O'Hoollihan is just what that dressing room needs
- drexel

hot lips !!!????
Margret is the first name and Patches is a nickname cause she patches people up
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 10 @ 3:23 PM ET
Which is precisely what I said. He isn’t passing the tests he has to pass to get that contract.

(frank) sakes I don’t even want him, even if he is “good enough” he’ll be nothing like he used to be.

- Dozzer

I honestly hadnt heard of him that much prior to early July.
Had to look up his deets.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 10 @ 3:23 PM ET
Well Tre wouldnt say anything about any player if he's not asked.
Precisely what you said was they weren't close to a deal.
They were.
Something with his health stopped the contract from being signed.

Either way, he's a depth D....if he doesn't sign, the leafs move on.....or they move on anyway.

- Fakepartofme


Will you start reading my entire post please?

I’ve said over and over that it’s obvious this guy hasn’t passed the tests hence why he has no new contract. He was likely given til about now to change that with workouts and he hasn’t.

Either way the guy will suck ass now, even Dallas knows this. Only leaf fans can be impressed by a junk pile now.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 10 @ 3:24 PM ET
I honestly hadnt heard of him that much prior to early July.
Had to look up his deets.

- Fakepartofme


Big stay at home guy. Didn’t know him well but I knew that.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM ET
Will you start reading my entire post please?

I’ve said over and over that it’s obvious this guy hasn’t passed the tests hence why he has no new contract. He was likely given til about now to change that with workouts and he hasn’t.

Either way the guy will suck ass now, even Dallas knows this. Only leaf fans can be impressed by a junk pile now.

- Dozzer

Welcome to leaf land
If the junk pile is blue and white........then there's potential for "gold" in d'em hills!
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 10 @ 3:31 PM ET
Welcome to leaf land
If the junk pile is blue and white........then there's potential for "gold" in d'em hills!

- Fakepartofme


He’s loved because he’s tall.

That’s seriously it. lol

Leafland is so hard to impress
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Sep 10 @ 3:31 PM ET
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vi...t-for-the-maple-l~2950397
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: My Lovers call me Small23
Joined: 04.11.2018

Sep 10 @ 3:39 PM ET
I don't think Woll is a bad goalie, just his injury history. Injuries take a goalie out of their groove and Storarlz seems to be more durable.

So for me, if Woll goes down and Storlarz takes the net and is durable and finds/keeps his groove going, Woll will have to win the #1 back...until he gets injured again.

My bold prediction is only because I don't think it would be easy for Woll to win the #1 spot back when he inevitably gets injured.

- underhill14




I don’t think Woll goalie either. Though I absolutely don’t think he’s anywhere near ‘fantastic’ that’s for certain ha.

I think he’s an average to good NHL backup. Just don’t think he’s an NHL starter. I suppose in a shared net situation if the guy he’s sharing it with is much better - it could work? Not a good look though for a team in win now mode though….the improved d will help for sure at the same time.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 10 @ 3:40 PM ET
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/the-talking-point-would-pacioretty-be-a-good-fit-for-the-maple-l~2950397
- dmnted

guess last years sensational duo Bert/Domi got nothing vs this years lethal duo Robbie/Specks eh
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Sep 10 @ 3:58 PM ET
guess last years sensational duo Bert/Domi got nothing vs this years lethal duo Robbie/Specks eh
- 21peter

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 10 @ 4:01 PM ET

- dmnted

I was, sort of, in a flow - sorry
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 10 @ 4:34 PM ET
I don't think Woll is a bad goalie, just his injury history. Injuries take a goalie out of their groove and Storarlz seems to be more durable.

So for me, if Woll goes down and Storlarz takes the net and is durable and finds/keeps his groove going, Woll will have to win the #1 back...until he gets injured again.

My bold prediction is only because I don't think it would be easy for Woll to win the #1 spot back when he inevitably gets injured.

- underhill14


If you look at the cumulative goalie stats over the past 3 years, Woll is 7th in the NHL in Goals saved above expected / 60 - where he is in excellent company, trailing only: Shesterkin, Sorokin, Andersen, Hellebuyck, Ullmark . . . and Stolarz(!). At 26 years old with little history or chance to build one, I think he'll put up this year. Obviously he got that contract because the Leafs believe in him, too - but I have said that I still don't love how guys are getting larger contracts with too little sample data to back it up.

In terms of another stat I'm a fan of - quality start percentage (basically games with a save percentage over .900), Woll ranks 30th out of 77 - so he does need to work on his consistency and there's likely some aspect of what you say in there - after coming back from injury, he takes some time to get back in the groove.

Stolarz - 6th in QS%. I'm a fan of his numbers.

With regards to Woll, though - last year after he came back from injury he was given almost all of the hard starts (2nd of back-to-backs, the harder teams, the road games against harder teams and so on) and Samsonov was given all of the soft starts. I don't know if the goal was to try and build Sammy's confidence - but if there's one thing that says to me - in their heart of hearts they knew Samsonov was not the better goalie and they still went with him into the playoffs. I'm glad to have a new coach to make dumb mistakes. I was sort of sick of the last coach's dumb mistakes.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 10 @ 4:40 PM ET
Trade Robertson for the Giraffe

BRING BACK THE GIRAFFE


Go Leafs Go
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 10 @ 4:54 PM ET
Trade Robertson for the Giraffe

BRING BACK THE GIRAFFE


Go Leafs Go

- Garnie


He makes $3m for the next 6 years, he's six years older, and judging by last year's stats, already on the decline.

I am a fan of Engvall's puck control and smarts. You know who would (frank)ing hate him? Berube. Don't piss around with the puck by your own blue line hoping to get a better outlet lane or allowing people to regroup - especially not with forechecking pressure. Dump that puck and put pressure on the defense - that's what Berube is going to want to see from the bottom 6.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 10 @ 5:00 PM ET
Trade Robertson for the Giraffe

BRING BACK THE GIRAFFE


Go Leafs Go

- Garnie


While giraffes are usually quiet, adult giraffes have been observed using snorts, coughs, hisses, bursts, moans, groans, grunts, whistles, and bellowing sounds

At least it’s obvious as to why you want him here
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Sep 10 @ 5:38 PM ET
If you look at the cumulative goalie stats over the past 3 years, Woll is 7th in the NHL in Goals saved above expected / 60 - where he is in excellent company, trailing only: Shesterkin, Sorokin, Andersen, Hellebuyck, Ullmark . . . and Stolarz(!). At 26 years old with little history or chance to build one, I think he'll put up this year. Obviously he got that contract because the Leafs believe in him, too - but I have said that I still don't love how guys are getting larger contracts with too little sample data to back it up.

In terms of another stat I'm a fan of - quality start percentage (basically games with a save percentage over .900), Woll ranks 30th out of 77 - so he does need to work on his consistency and there's likely some aspect of what you say in there - after coming back from injury, he takes some time to get back in the groove.

Stolarz - 6th in QS%. I'm a fan of his numbers.

With regards to Woll, though - last year after he came back from injury he was given almost all of the hard starts (2nd of back-to-backs, the harder teams, the road games against harder teams and so on) and Samsonov was given all of the soft starts. I don't know if the goal was to try and build Sammy's confidence - but if there's one thing that says to me - in their heart of hearts they knew Samsonov was not the better goalie and they still went with him into the playoffs. I'm glad to have a new coach to make dumb mistakes. I was sort of sick of the last coach's dumb mistakes.

- Monkeypunk





You and me both. I was getting quite tired of Keefe.

I do like Storlarz numbers you posted. At least I have a bit of confidence in the net this year especially with him as back up.

I'm all for Woll taking the next step. Just hope he drank a lot of milk this summer.

Maybe we see Toronto's version of Swayman/Ullmark this season.
PlatosRepucklic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #TradeMarner
Joined: 11.07.2015

Sep 10 @ 6:26 PM ET
The patch signing makes no sense unless they are still trading Robertson. They have Knies, McMann, Robertson, Holmberg and Dewer on the left side. With Cowan in the wings. All are young of course but I don't see a fit for a washed up Patch. Unless it's just a PTO and then they cut bait.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Sep 10 @ 6:43 PM ET
1st

suck it skalapy

- systemtool

GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job.
Joined: 01.29.2013

Sep 10 @ 6:50 PM ET

- Skalapy

Too bad there isn't a thick neck emoji, but there's this ...

winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 10 @ 7:12 PM ET
Signing Pacioretty to a league minimum deal is a classic no risk/no reward move.

Bergevin used to do plenty of those for us.

- Scabeh




At least it's a no risk/no reward for part time fourth liner just imagine signing Josh Anderson or Brendan Gallagher high risk/high cap hit/no reward for your top six
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 10 @ 7:45 PM ET
He makes $3m for the next 6 years, he's six years older, and judging by last year's stats, already on the decline.

I am a fan of Engvall's puck control and smarts. You know who would (frank)ing hate him? Berube. Don't piss around with the puck by your own blue line hoping to get a better outlet lane or allowing people to regroup - especially not with forechecking pressure. Dump that puck and put pressure on the defense - that's what Berube is going to want to see from the bottom 6.

- Monkeypunk


It’s ok, I’m over the lanky sum female dog
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 10 @ 7:46 PM ET
While giraffes are usually quiet, adult giraffes have been observed using snorts, coughs, hisses, bursts, moans, groans, grunts, whistles, and bellowing sounds

At least it’s obvious as to why you want him here

- Dozzer


🥹
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Sep 10 @ 7:52 PM ET


At least it's a no risk/no reward for part time fourth liner just imagine signing Josh Anderson or Brendan Gallagher high risk/high cap hit/no reward for your top six

- winsix

Last I checked Leafs have plenty of 4th liners....shiit MiB has been writing about them for weeks.

We need a 2LW or 3 C...technically both but at least of them.
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: My Lovers call me Small23
Joined: 04.11.2018

Sep 10 @ 8:20 PM ET
Last I checked Leafs have plenty of 4th liners....shiit MiB has been writing about them for weeks.

We need a 2LW or 3 C...technically both but at least of them.

- underhill14




Agree with that. Also think it’s more likely to pull one rabbit out of the hat for Tre. Because of that I’d shoot for a 2C. It allows for the most depth in my opinion options wise.

Top 6 wingers could be:
Willy
Domi
Marner
Knies/McMann
…with JT at 3C

Or

It could mean Top 6 wingers:
Willy
Domi
Marner
JT
…with Holmberg and Kampf as 3C/4C
DrunkenCanuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Check your PM, AB
Joined: 07.14.2009

Sep 10 @ 10:07 PM ET
https://x.com/truckdriver...tatus/1833605557699186688


This is fantastic news for Toronto.

Happy for you fellers.
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