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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Sep 16 @ 12:55 PM ET
I want more info on this one. my initial thought was a total screw up by the flyers

I don't by the homesick angle. If that really is the case the oh well not much you can do. Seems there is more to the story. Both parties are probably at fault.

- hello it's me 2050



Just guessing but I wonder if he saw Fedotov come over and sign that 2 year deal and thought instead of being blocked in Lehigh he prefer to just stay in Russia.

Could be wrong. Just seemed weird that he did come over so it seemed he wanted to be in north america.


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 16 @ 12:56 PM ET
He is superstitious, His salary is his jeresy number
- WhiskeyMan



You don't say?
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Sep 16 @ 12:58 PM ET
You don't say?
- MBFlyerfan

Wait til he finds out his birth date and year
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Sep 16 @ 12:59 PM ET
Sid signs 2 years at 8.7


What a dream scenario he has been for Pittsburgh. Not only the best, or near best player in the league for the entirety of his career, but to have him for 8.7 million a year in perpetuity. Giving Pittsburgh the ability to put a great team around him for years and years.

- MBFlyerfan


You really believe its a great team around him?

Sid took the team route so they could bring in Hayes...
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 16 @ 1:02 PM ET
I want more info on this one. my initial thought was a total screw up by the flyers

I don't by the homesick angle. If that really is the case the oh well not much you can do. Seems there is more to the story. Both parties are probably at fault.

- hello it's me 2050

Yea it doesn’t really add up
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Sep 16 @ 1:28 PM ET
I’ll say this about Jett Luchanko. Johnathon Toews I don’t believe was ever on the same level as Patrick Kane. All Toews had to do was have a solid two way game and keep up. If Jett Luchanko can keep up with Michkov, we might have a pretty good line moving forward.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Sep 16 @ 1:38 PM ET
Friedman says the flyers set an asking price of a 2nd rd pick for kolosov though still working to get it resolved.
- hello it's me 2050


Who's going to want him if he doesn't want to come to North America? Is Friedman saying it's just the Flyers that Kolosov doesn't want to play for?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 16 @ 1:45 PM ET
You really believe its a great team around him?

Sid took the team route so they could bring in Hayes...

- Glak18



3 cups (4 appearances) says otherwise.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 16 @ 1:45 PM ET
Sid signs 2 years at 8.7


What a dream scenario he has been for Pittsburgh. Not only the best, or near best player in the league for the entirety of his career, but to have him for 8.7 million a year in perpetuity. Giving Pittsburgh the ability to put a great team around him for years and years.

- MBFlyerfan



Some pens fans I’m talking to expect them to miss the playoffs again and if they do, sod would waive his ntc to go to a contender with picks coming back to allow the start of the rebuild. Nothing more than opinion from the pens fans I know.

Personally, I’m surprised he signed for that much. I figured it’d be like 2 years at 4.87 mil or something like that. Reduced amount to allow more money to be spent on getting a player or two to help.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 16 @ 1:48 PM ET
3 cups (4 appearances) says otherwise.
- MBFlyerfan


I think the point is that they no longer have a great team around him. They’ve missed the playoffs the last two years and I think they’re at least a few players away from contending. Goaltending is a big issue for them and karlsson hasn’t been able to change the fortunes of the team.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 16 @ 1:49 PM ET
Friedman says the flyers set an asking price of a 2nd rd pick for kolosov though still working to get it resolved.
- hello it's me 2050


Good luck lol
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 16 @ 1:51 PM ET
Who's going to want him if he doesn't want to come to North America? Is Friedman saying it's just the Flyers that Kolosov doesn't want to play for?
- Dkos


Yeah. Hopefully we get more info. If kolosov. Ones out and says it’s just that I don’t want to play for the flyers then that’s a big issue. Will really look bad if he’s happy to go to another orgs minor system but not here.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Sep 16 @ 1:53 PM ET
I’ll say this about Jett Luchanko. Johnathon Toews I don’t believe was ever on the same level as Patrick Kane. All Toews had to do was have a solid two way game and keep up. If Jett Luchanko can keep up with Michkov, we might have a pretty good line moving forward.
- roenick97


It’s funny, I thought of this comparison the other day as well
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 16 @ 1:57 PM ET
I think the point is that they no longer have a great team around him. They’ve missed the playoffs the last two years and I think they’re at least a few players away from contending. Goaltending is a big issue for them and karlsson hasn’t been able to change the fortunes of the team.
- Hextall271



MY point was that they were able to put a team around him for years and years.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 16 @ 2:01 PM ET
Personally, I’m surprised he signed for that much. I figured it’d be like 2 years at 4.87 mil or something like that. Reduced amount to allow more money to be spent on getting a player or two to help.
- Hextall271


He's taken a reduced rate for his entire career and $8.7Mx2 is still a massive paycut for him.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 16 @ 2:06 PM ET
MY point was that they were able to put a team around him for years and years.
- MBFlyerfan


Ok. Gotcha.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Sep 16 @ 2:13 PM ET
definitely a pay cut if EF had him at over 10
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Sep 16 @ 2:21 PM ET
3 cups (4 appearances) says otherwise.
- MBFlyerfan


Big ooof. I really got to get used to living in this MK Ultra brainwash landscape where people have canned responses to everything now.

I'll try my best to hold hands and baby step this process...

This is what YOU said:
Sid signs 2 years at 8.7


What a dream scenario he has been for Pittsburgh. Not only the best, or near best player in the league for the entirety of his career, but to have him for 8.7 million a year in perpetuity. Giving Pittsburgh the ability to put a great team around him for years and years.

- MBFlyerfan


I agree with everything you said until the last sentence, which I asked:
You really believe its a great team around him?

Sid took the team route so they could bring in Hayes...

- Glak18


I didn't ask about or disagree with his career, accomplishments, team success 8 YEARS AGO...he just signed the contract YOU'RE referring to just recently.

They have Karlsson @ 10m...which was IMO was a good move. He may not be worth 10m, but they dropped a lot of dead cap for a player who is still productive, maybe not as productive as he once was, but also 34 years old.

They have Malkin @ 6.1m...who did the same as Crosby, was a draft pick of theirs and is 38 years old.

Letang @ 6.1m...Again same as Crosby and Malkin, draft pick and is 37 years old.


Now let's look at the Penguins team around that, even if you want let's look at the team the last few years....

DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IT'S A GREAT TEAM AROUND HIM?



ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 16 @ 2:25 PM ET
Big ooof. I really got to get used to living in this MK Ultra brainwash landscape where people have canned responses to everything now.

I'll try my best to hold hands and baby step this process...

This is what YOU said:


I agree with everything you said until the last sentence, which I asked:


I didn't ask about or disagree with his career, accomplishments, team success 8 YEARS AGO...he just signed the contract YOU'RE referring to just recently.

They have Karlsson @ 10m...which was IMO was a good move. He may not be worth 10m, but they dropped a lot of dead cap for a player who is still productive, maybe not as productive as he once was, but also 34 years old.

They have Malkin @ 6.1m...who did the same as Crosby, was a draft pick of theirs and is 38 years old.

Letang @ 6.1m...Again same as Crosby and Malkin, draft pick and is 37 years old.


Now let's look at the Penguins team around that, even if you want let's look at the team the last few years....

DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IT'S A GREAT TEAM AROUND HIM?

- Glak18

Damn you and others can’t comprehend anything huh. His post was clearly about the contract , which is now essentially extended yes, that they’ve had him at through the duration of his career.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 16 @ 2:27 PM ET
MY point was that they were able to put a team around him for years and years.
- MBFlyerfan

Some people on here read one sentence and just take it however they want it
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Sep 16 @ 2:29 PM ET
I’ll say this about Jett Luchanko. Johnathon Toews I don’t believe was ever on the same level as Patrick Kane. All Toews had to do was have a solid two way game and keep up. If Jett Luchanko can keep up with Michkov, we might have a pretty good line moving forward.
- roenick97
Luchanko is faster than Michkov! Just sayin...In fact, that could be one hinderance to Michkov's game. He certainly doesn't look like the fastest guy I've ever seen on skates.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Sep 16 @ 2:30 PM ET
Sid signs 2 years at 8.7


What a dream scenario he has been for Pittsburgh. Not only the best, or near best player in the league for the entirety of his career, but to have him for 8.7 million a year in perpetuity. Giving Pittsburgh the ability to put a great team around him for years and years.

- MBFlyerfan

Pittsburgh has to be one of the luckiest and most blessed franchises in the NHL. Same with the Oilers.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Sep 16 @ 2:33 PM ET
Luchanko is faster than Michkov! Just sayin...In fact, that could be one hinderance to Michkov's game. He certainly doesn't look like the fastest guy I've ever seen on skates.
- Phillywhiteout

Michkov's quickness and game-speed, hands and mental approach to the game is his superpower. Reading the plays and seeing things come into focus before they happen which makes him seem faster than he really is (Gretzky was the best at this, and no I'm not comparing Michkov to Gretzky). He also has an insane toolkit in his repertoire. Hands, agility, skating/edge-work, puck distribution, seeing the ice, etc.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 16 @ 2:47 PM ET
risto for e. kane?

start kane on ltir and open up a d spot for a young defenseman.

- anti-lame


Pass

The point of moving Risto is to open a slot for a young player. Yes, it accomlishes it on D but when Kane is healthy then what? Someone in the top 9 is bing sat and thats likely Brink. So effectively you are creating one spot while taking away another.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 16 @ 2:49 PM ET
Damn you and others can’t comprehend anything huh. His post was clearly about the contract , which is now essentially extended yes, that they’ve had him at through the duration of his career.
- ClaudeFather



I don't know what else to say about it. He has had the same cap hit for 17 seasons. IE years and years.

He wasn't even the highest paid player in his own team for much of that deal(s). despite being a generational top 5-10 all time player. And for most of that deal his team was a perennial cup contender. Them not being good NOW changes NOTHING about my original statement.

I'm not sure what he is trying to prove.
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