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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 16 @ 4:49 PM ET
The time he got sick of Dubinsky and rag dolled him to the ice would be a good statue.
- Grinder47


When was this? He ragdolled McLean when he jumped him off the faceoff but all he did was get dropped twice against Dubinsky.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Sep 16 @ 6:35 PM ET
What should be the moment that the statue depicts? Could be a cool blog idea.
- Brownsoldier


Hopefully it doesn’t look like the precursor to a gay orgy with hockey sticks like the one currently in front of the arena.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 16 @ 6:39 PM ET
Hopefully it doesn’t look like the precursor to a gay orgy with hockey sticks like the one currently in front of the arena.
- ChrisMS


Yup. I would have statues of the players standing on each side of a walk way opposite each other. like at the entrance to the arena or something. Each one unique like if they held a stick a specific way or what not.

I know there’s only Mario so far and I’m imaging having like 5 on each side to start with, but you got to start somewhere.
greenyone
Joined: 02.20.2013

Sep 16 @ 7:08 PM ET
No doubt he's a class act, but unlike most NHL players he can afford to leave money on the table to keep in legacy intact. He's probably made an easy 100 million off of things like donut endorsements over his career.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 16 @ 7:47 PM ET
One of the times he’s been cheap shotted and Jake Guentzel stood there and watched.
- Grinder47

The self proclaimed most positive guy on the board right here.
abasin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.27.2018

Sep 16 @ 7:53 PM ET
No doubt he's a class act, but unlike most NHL players he can afford to leave money on the table to keep in legacy intact. He's probably made an easy 100 million off of things like donut endorsements over his career.
- greenyone


He’s probably left $100M+ on the table from not doing more endorsements.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 16 @ 8:45 PM ET
Yup. I would have statues of the players standing on each side of a walk way opposite each other. like at the entrance to the arena or something. Each one unique like if they held a stick a specific way or what not.

I know there’s only Mario so far and I’m imaging having like 5 on each side to start with, but you got to start somewhere.

- 10inchTerror


That's actually a cool idea.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Sep 16 @ 9:48 PM ET
JMO... Statues are kinda lame. At minimum, put them up after the guy is dead. Retired jersey's and a bronze plaque will suffice.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Sep 16 @ 11:41 PM ET
Pittsburgh won the prospect tournament.

Good summary from Haas.

https://www.dkpittsburghs...ournament-sweep-recap-tlh
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 17 @ 1:53 AM ET
Maybe the short term deal is in case the team has turned the corner in 2027 and he wants to play, he takes a vet minimum deal so the team can load up

He obviously could have got a 3 or 4 year extension if he wanted it

Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Sep 17 @ 5:56 AM ET
The self proclaimed most positive guy on the board right here.
- Victoro311

It’s more of working towards a positive future rather than staying in the status quo of loserdom and cowardly hockey.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Sep 17 @ 6:01 AM ET
When was this? He ragdolled McLean when he jumped him off the faceoff but all he did was get dropped twice against Dubinsky.
- jmatchett383

I guess it was more of a fight. Pretty even as far as punches. Dubinsky took him down. Just another example of Sid not being protected by the Penguins and coach “just play”.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 17 @ 7:41 AM ET
Pittsburgh won the prospect tournament.

Good summary from Haas.

https://www.dkpittsburghs...ournament-sweep-recap-tlh

- madmike71


I dont recall them every sweeping this before but they very may well have. I'm too lazy this morning to go digging.

Its nice to have some young promising guys around again hahah
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 17 @ 7:47 AM ET
Awesome deal for sid and the team. But im just confused by Dubas’ plan to win?

What's he telling Sid to convince him that they’re going to be “contenders” in the next 2 years? Im just assuming Sid is sticking around to mentor the new youth thats coming for the next 5 years.

Rebuild isnt happening without quality prospects/draft picks, which requires trading quality players like Pettersson and Rust

- drummer829


I've always been of the belief that professional hockey players do not think like most fans do at all. That they think if a guy is in the NHL he's a good hockey player, is capable of helping them win games. That pretty much all of them don't follow analytics (not dissing them, I like them) or consider teammates underlying numbers. That they think every start to a new season is a clean slate and they have a chance to win. That they're not thinking they are not a playoff team, or have no chance of making playoffs, before or when a season starts.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 17 @ 9:57 AM ET
Crazy that the Pens get another almost 3 mill (2.8) in cap space next offseason with the Petry and Smith salary retentions coming off the books. Then you have the cap raising again plus another 9+ mill in space with Eller, Beauvillier, Neito, Grzelcyk and Shea all UFA.

Didn't mention Petts...he could take up a little chunk of all that extra space if extended...or be gone and there's another 4 mill in cap space available.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Sep 17 @ 10:22 AM ET
Crazy that the Pens get another almost 3 mill (2.8) in cap space next offseason with the Petry and Smith salary retentions coming off the books. Then you have the cap raising again plus another 9+ mill in space with Eller, Beauvillier, Neito, Grzelcyk and Shea all UFA.

Didn't mention Petts...he could take up a little chunk of all that extra space if extended...or be gone and there's another 4 mill in cap space available.

- MattStrat

I keep joking that we are going after Mitch Marner, but I truly see him as the target next summer.

The talk in Toronto is that he wants $12M. After taxes in Toronto, his income is about $5.6M compared to around $7.1M in Pittsburgh. I know some guys insist on the dollar value of the contract being more important, but i feel like if take home money is what he cares about, Pittsburgh could easily put a good offer to him.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 17 @ 10:31 AM ET
I keep joking that we are going after Mitch Marner, but I truly see him as the target next summer.

The talk in Toronto is that he wants $12M. After taxes in Toronto, his income is about $5.6M compared to around $7.1M in Pittsburgh. I know some guys insist on the dollar value of the contract being more important, but i feel like if take home money is what he cares about, Pittsburgh could easily put a good offer to him.

- SuperHenderson13


There are people that post around here that want nothing to do with him but I'd take him in a heart beat. However, I do believe that he will end up staying in TO.
GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job.
Joined: 01.29.2013

Sep 17 @ 10:40 AM ET
Never been a fan personally, but I respect the poop out of the guy for this.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Sep 17 @ 10:47 AM ET
There are people that post around here that want nothing to do with him but I'd take him in a heart beat. However, I do believe that he will end up staying in TO.
- MattStrat

Unlike in past years, we have a talent deficiency. Marner, while not perfect, would be a huge boast to the top 6. If you can get him, I have no idea why people wouldnt want him.

I tend to agree about Toronto. Hometown team, he likes it there. It seems like the "change" will be Tavares leaving when his contract expires.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Sep 17 @ 11:39 AM ET
I dont recall them every sweeping this before but they very may well have. I'm too lazy this morning to go digging.

Its nice to have some young promising guys around again hahah

- MattStrat

They've got a decent amount of talent in that 20-21 range which is usually the oldest unless you have someone like Ponomarev where they wanted extra time to get him acclimated since he missed most of last year. Shows the work Dubas put in too since 4 of the top 5 forwards (McGroarty, Ponomarev, Koivunen, Avery) were his additions. Add in guys like Broz, Pickering, and Murashov and it's a lot of guys who should be pushing if not in the NHL in a year for this type of format.

Interested now to see if Avery can carve out a bigger role. He was a big junior scorer and a scrappy player that struggled with injuries as a rookie. Broz sounds like he had a tremendous showing, I might be moving more towards your thinking on him.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Sep 17 @ 11:43 AM ET
Follow up post, it feels like Dubas is essentially trying to recreate 2016 and 2017 where a bunch of guys are able to come up at once and supplement the core. Got goalies, Pickering for the LD, McGroarty, Koivunen, Ponomarev, Broz, Poulin to hopefully fill out the forward ranks. Could full in a lot of the biggest holes. Just unfortunately our core guys aren't in the same place to carry them. But at least some reinforcements are getting close, we hope.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 17 @ 12:13 PM ET
It’s more of working towards a positive future rather than staying in the status quo of loserdom and cowardly hockey.
- Grinder47

Your incessant female doging on this forum does do a lot to endear people to a return to hard nosed hockey.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 17 @ 12:15 PM ET
Crazy that the Pens get another almost 3 mill (2.8) in cap space next offseason with the Petry and Smith salary retentions coming off the books. Then you have the cap raising again plus another 9+ mill in space with Eller, Beauvillier, Neito, Grzelcyk and Shea all UFA.

Didn't mention Petts...he could take up a little chunk of all that extra space if extended...or be gone and there's another 4 mill in cap space available.

- MattStrat

If free agents actually ever wanted to come here we’d be in pretty good shape!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 17 @ 12:15 PM ET
Follow up post, it feels like Dubas is essentially trying to recreate 2016 and 2017 where a bunch of guys are able to come up at once and supplement the core. Got goalies, Pickering for the LD, McGroarty, Koivunen, Ponomarev, Broz, Poulin to hopefully fill out the forward ranks. Could full in a lot of the biggest holes. Just unfortunately our core guys aren't in the same place to carry them. But at least some reinforcements are getting close, we hope.
- Tojo.


I think the ship has sailed on Poulin.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 17 @ 12:16 PM ET
Pittsburgh won the prospect tournament.

Good summary from Haas.

https://www.dkpittsburghs...ournament-sweep-recap-tlh

- madmike71


Hayes had quite a prospect tourney. His line with ponamerov and McGroarty sounded impressive and a hell of a box score. Could be a nice undrafted pickup. Hopefully at least 2 members of that line stay intact in the AHL and light it up.

Everyone seems quite impressed with broz as well. Looks like their might be some tenacity and physicality with some of these kids when they make it.
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