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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Sep 18 @ 11:46 AM ET
I feel like they need to look at moving at least one forward yet(Farabee/Laughton). Just seems like a numbers game if your wanting to get guys like Brink and Michkov in the lineup regularly.

corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Sep 18 @ 11:47 AM ET
Your conspiracy theories about the Briere and the Flyers are getting old to be honest. Briere stated clearly yesterday that Kolosiv wanted a spot on the Flyers roster, otherwise he is not going to come. Why on Earth would Briere make such a statement unless he heard it directly from the Kolosov's camp. Why would Briere blatently lie about this?
- jd250


A person in a position of power would never deceive the public, would they? There are a myriad of reasons to lie, maybe it is to buy time as things get ironed out behind the scenes? Maybe the truth does not make the Flyers look good and the pr team needs time to craft a message, knowing that the line "if he does not want to be a flyer then F%$k him" will not work again?

How naive you are to think that gmdb would not lie to the public
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 18 @ 11:48 AM ET
No I don't think he lied about Quitter, in fact we still have not heard Quitter's side of the story which tells me Quitter has something to hide and thus just wants this to go away. Briere would not have said this at all if he had not heard from Kolosov's camp that he wants a gauranteed NHL roster spot, otherwise he wants to stay in the AHL. This is not speculation on Briere's part.
- jd250

it is public record he lied about cutter. unlike the flyers cutter is more mature taking the high road. no need for a smear campaign.

danny boy didn't say what you're saying he said. it is speculation.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Sep 18 @ 11:58 AM ET
What does Amnesia or Fedotov have to do with anything? Why is Kolosov not here then? Does he no longer want to play hockey at any level? I gotta a spot on my mens league time if he is at all interested.
- 26912 PP


You rewrote your post after i responded originally.

See my previous response regarding Fedotov.

Kolosov certainly has opened himself up to speculation and is currently not eligible to play anywhere professionally except the Flyers (unless the KHL would be willing to go the Fedotov route again). He's in a difficult spot and he put himself there. I would say it currently looks like he would rather not play professionally than come over to North America barring further evidence.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 18 @ 11:58 AM ET
Your conspiracy theories about the Briere and the Flyers are getting old to be honest. Briere stated clearly yesterday that Kolosiv wanted a spot on the Flyers roster, otherwise he is not going to come. Why on Earth would Briere make such a statement unless he heard it directly from the Kolosov's camp. Why would Briere blatently lie about this?
- jd250



Your naivete, gullibility and rubber stamping everything the Flyers do, has long since passed the point of getting old. Now with that being said, I have no evidence at this point to believe that the Flyers did anything wrong in the Kolosov situation. However, you buying everything the Flyers say and asking why would Briere lie. Scammers should have your number on speed dial.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Sep 18 @ 12:00 PM ET
I might have preferred Chuck's lawyer-ese tbh... all of Danny's answers are either he's "excited" about xyz or more circle the wagons "culture" talk or he's deferring to Torts.
- Tomahawk


His nice guy demeanor was appealing when he was a player. Not so much as a GM.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 18 @ 12:01 PM ET
I might have preferred Chuck's lawyer-ese tbh... all of Danny's answers are either he's "excited" about xyz or more circle the wagons "culture" talk or he's deferring to Torts.
- Tomahawk


Yea, any idea or thought of Briere being a change agent or cut from a different cloth from the Flyers culture. Is pretty much out the window.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 18 @ 12:04 PM ET
No I don't think he lied about Quitter, in fact we still have not heard Quitter's side of the story which tells me Quitter has something to hide and thus just wants this to go away. Briere would not have said this at all if he had not heard from Kolosov's camp that he wants a gauranteed NHL roster spot, otherwise he wants to stay in the AHL. This is not speculation on Briere's part.
- jd250



You're not paying attention. Briere admitted that he lied about the Gauthier situation to protect the player.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 18 @ 12:05 PM ET
The first two minutes of Briere's presser was crystal clear to me.
- jd250


You have a track record of incorrectly interpreting and relaying what is said in press conferences.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Sep 18 @ 12:23 PM ET
They never would have fired Fletcher if it basically wasn’t forced upon them by the fanbase.

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 18 @ 12:24 PM ET
I might have preferred Chuck's lawyer-ese tbh... all of Danny's answers are either he's "excited" about xyz or more circle the wagons "culture" talk or he's deferring to Torts.
- Tomahawk


His statement on the worth of Laughton's intangibles last season bordered on parody. It's very deflating to get a young GM who was a great skill player in, and then he sounds like a hockey man cliche.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Sep 18 @ 12:25 PM ET
I feel like they need to look at moving at least one forward yet(Farabee/Laughton). Just seems like a numbers game if your wanting to get guys like Brink and Michkov in the lineup regularly.
- J35Bacher


not quite sold on Brink yet. Farabee may very well be the better player when all is said and done.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 18 @ 12:26 PM ET
I feel like they need to look at moving at least one forward yet(Farabee/Laughton). Just seems like a numbers game if your wanting to get guys like Brink and Michkov in the lineup regularly.
- J35Bacher


But they don't?

Tippett-Couturier-Konecny
Farabee-Frost-Michkov
Foerster-Laughton-Brink
Cates-Poehling-Hathaway
Deslauriers
26912 PP
Season Ticket Holder
Location: Lucca
Joined: 06.27.2024

Sep 18 @ 12:28 PM ET
You rewrote your post after i responded originally.

See my previous response regarding Fedotov.

Kolosov certainly has opened himself up to speculation and is currently not eligible to play anywhere professionally except the Flyers (unless the KHL would be willing to go the Fedotov route again). He's in a difficult spot and he put himself there. I would say it currently looks like he would rather not play professionally than come over to North America barring further evidence.

- Flyers_01
I never mentioned Fedotov. Lighten up Francis
26912 PP
Season Ticket Holder
Location: Lucca
Joined: 06.27.2024

Sep 18 @ 12:31 PM ET
You're not paying attention. Briere admitted that he lied about the Gauthier situation to protect the player.
- MJL
Briere lied about quitters intentions, 100%. Thats a gms job. We all know that. It was the right thing to do for all reasons including trade value.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 18 @ 12:37 PM ET
https://x.com/i/web/status/1836423494369694180
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 18 @ 12:40 PM ET
It's not baffling at all that Angelo is out of the league. He can't play D to save his career.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 18 @ 12:45 PM ET
Briere lied about quitters intentions, 100%. Thats a gms job. We all know that. It was the right thing to do for all reasons including trade value.
- 26912 PP


I agree, I have no problem with Briere not being truthful there. His job is to protect the asset and do what he thinks is best for the team.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 18 @ 12:45 PM ET
A person in a position of power would never deceive the public, would they? There are a myriad of reasons to lie, maybe it is to buy time as things get ironed out behind the scenes? Maybe the truth does not make the Flyers look good and the pr team needs time to craft a message, knowing that the line "if he does not want to be a flyer then F%$k him" will not work again?

How naive you are to think that gmdb would not lie to the public

- corduroy

I'm not talking about GM speak, which all GMs have to learn and exercise. I am talking about this specific case. Why would Briere come out and state what he stated yesterday if it were not true? Kolosov's camp could easily read what he said and dispute it if they want to, just like Gauthier could have disputed what Briere stated about his situation, which of course he never did. In this specific case, I don't see what there is to lie about. Once again its a case of an entitled kid that is getting bad advice from either family, friends or his agent, and now may never play in the NHL which is just plain stupid.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 18 @ 12:46 PM ET
It's not baffling at all that Angelo is out of the league. He can't play D to save his career.
- Feanor

like taking candy from a baby.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 18 @ 12:46 PM ET
You have a track record of incorrectly interpreting and relaying what is said in press conferences.
- MJL

listen to it yourself ...
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 18 @ 12:47 PM ET
I'm not talking about GM speak, which all GMs have to learn and exercise. I am talking about this specific case. Why would Briere come out and state what he stated yesterday if it were not true? Kolosov's camp could easily read what he said and dispute it if they want to, just like Gauthier could have disputed what Briere stated about his situation, which of course he never did. In this specific case, I don't see what there is to lie about. Once again its a case of an entitled kid that is getting bad advice from either family, friends or his agent, and now may never play in the NHL which is just plain stupid.
- jd250

can you please quote what he said? thanks.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 18 @ 12:47 PM ET
You're not paying attention. Briere admitted that he lied about the Gauthier situation to protect the player.
- MJL

That is not what we are talking about. He means Briere lied about not being able to talk to Gauthier and his camp, not about lying to protect the kid which Briere openly admitted and explained why.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 18 @ 12:47 PM ET
can you please quote what he said? thanks.
- hello it's me 2050

watch the presser yourself ...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 18 @ 12:48 PM ET
listen to it yourself ...
- jd250


Don't need to. Bill laid out the synopsis. Other than Briere, there is no corroboration of what Kolosov's stance is. It is naïve to blindly accept what Briere says.
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