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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 19 @ 10:56 AM ET
2025 (in order of prob finish)
1st: Own.

1st: Acquired from Colorado in 2024 trade of D Sean Walker.

1st: Acquired from Edmonton for 32nd overall pick in 2024 (conditional to 2025 or 2026).

2nd: Conditional pick acquired from Columbus in 2023 trade of Ivan Provorov after they elected to keep their selection in 2024.

2nd: Acquired from Anaheim in 2024 trade of F Cutter Gauthier.

2nd: Own.

Something good has to come out of this in an above avg draft..

- 26912 PP



They need more than something good. They need elite players. They have good players and have been able to get those kind of players. It is elite or bust.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 19 @ 10:56 AM ET
why will the pens be better this year? or the isles or buff or detroit or ott or wash. I dont know that I want them to, but they could conceivably finish above all of these bubble teams
- 26912 PP

why wont they?

sure, they could if all those teams schitt the bed again. Did any of those team improve? Did the flyers improve overall?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Sep 19 @ 10:59 AM ET
2025 (in order of prob finish)
1st: Own.

1st: Acquired from Colorado in 2024 trade of D Sean Walker.

1st: Acquired from Edmonton for 32nd overall pick in 2024 (conditional to 2025 or 2026).

2nd: Conditional pick acquired from Columbus in 2023 trade of Ivan Provorov after they elected to keep their selection in 2024.

2nd: Acquired from Anaheim in 2024 trade of F Cutter Gauthier.

2nd: Own.

Something good has to come out of this in an above avg draft..

- 26912 PP


Six picks in the top 40-50 should net something good. But it's the Flyers so who knows. I would like for them to make all three first round picks. They need so much. Maybe use the second rounders to move up and target specific players in the first round.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Sep 19 @ 11:11 AM ET
why will the pens be better this year? or the isles or buff or detroit or ott or wash. I dont know that I want them to, but they could conceivably finish above all of these bubble teams
- 26912 PP


Crosby
Jarry
LeTang
Karlsson
Malkin
And Possibly McGroarty

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 19 @ 11:14 AM ET
Crosby
Jarry
LeTang
Karlsson
Malkin
And Possibly McGroarty

- WhiskeyMan

the roster they have going into the season is better than the one that ended it imo.

Hayes will have bounce back year production wise I believe.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Sep 19 @ 11:22 AM ET
the roster they have going into the season is better than the one that ended it imo.

Hayes will have bounce back year production wise I believe.

- hello it's me 2050


I think Hayes will be his usual self, around 20 goals and 25 assists
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 19 @ 11:29 AM ET
I think Hayes will be his usual self, around 20 goals and 25 assists
- WhiskeyMan



Believe it or not, a season like that would tie his 3rd most points in a season.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Sep 19 @ 11:43 AM ET
I'm listening to Tort's first presser after the first day of training camp. I'm so excited about how great "the room" is. If they gave away a Stanley Cup for the best room the Flyers would win it. Yay!
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 19 @ 11:48 AM ET
Going into camp, here is how I see the state of the team.

POSITIVES
The addition of Michkov
Drysdale being healthy to start the season
Another year of experience for younger players like Foerster and York

NEGATIVES
Torts is gonna be Torts and history shows that the longer he is with a team the more he wears on them
The goaltending is a question mark at best
Rocky still runs the pp
No legit 1C and a major lack of quality depth at the position
No legit 1D and a lot of question marks after Sanheim & York

“Best” case, they finish right around where they were last year or a hair better, 86-91 points, but still miss the playoffs and pick in the 11-15 range

“Worst” case, the goaltending falters, a few key players get injured and the team quits on Torts leading to a 70-75 point finish and a pick, sans lottery luck, in the 4-7 range

My prediction: 80 points, 6th or 7th in the East, 13th or 14th in the conference and a pick in the 7-9 range.

- BiggE


Oh nice. A prediction.

I will go with: 9-14 in standings.

I also said MM would be in the 65-70 pts. I will revise a little and say:63-70.

Bookmarking this, just for fun.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 19 @ 12:00 PM ET
Oh nice. A prediction.

I will go with: 9-14 in standings.

I also said MM would be in the 65-70 pts. I will revise a little and say:63-70.

Bookmarking this, just for fun.

- PT21

thanks clark
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 19 @ 12:04 PM ET
Six picks in the top 40-50 should net something good. But it's the Flyers so who knows. I would like for them to make all three first round picks. They need so much. Maybe use the second rounders to move up and target specific players in the first round.
- mickel25


If their own pick is 10+, I agree with you. In the value chart, 2 picks are likely more than 1 in that range.



But, if they do manage to get near top 5 with their own, and their trade picks are also somewhat high, I would advocate trying to move up.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 19 @ 12:26 PM ET
Oh nice. A prediction.

I will go with: 9-14 in standings.

I also said MM would be in the 65-70 pts. I will revise a little and say:63-70.

Bookmarking this, just for fun.

- PT21


9-14? Flyers might be a top 10 NHL team in your view?
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Sep 19 @ 12:33 PM ET
I really don't know what to expect this year. More of what we saw last year, I suspect. You can't compete in the league without talented depth down the middle.
- Dave21Brown

And the goaltending has to equal Hart's solid effort last season. I believe Flyers would have made the playoffs with a solid Hart for the full season.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 19 @ 12:36 PM ET
And the goaltending has to equal Hart's solid effort last season. I believe Flyers would have made the playoffs with a solid Hart for the full season.
- THE EVIL WITHIN


Hart was an average to below average NHL goaltender last season. Nothing special. They're better off without out him in the big picture.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Sep 19 @ 12:42 PM ET
They need more than something good. They need elite players. They have good players and have been able to get those kind of players. It is elite or bust.
- MJL



Absolutely. The NEED t be in the top 5 for the 2025 and 2026 drafts. That is where they can grab some of that elite talent. 2025 has some top end centers it is looking like. Depending how they play it, they could drastically alter their future.

But the picks need to bring in some Elite talent.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Sep 19 @ 12:43 PM ET
I really don't know what to expect this year. More of what we saw last year, I suspect. You can't compete in the league without talented depth down the middle.
- Dave21Brown

+ at least 1 true top pairing defenseman
+ a true starting goalie
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 19 @ 12:44 PM ET
9-14? Flyers might be a top 10 NHL team in your view?

- MJL




I'm pretty sure he means in the conference.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 19 @ 12:47 PM ET
https://x.com/i/web/status/1836571650495492313

what a dope.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 19 @ 12:58 PM ET
I'm pretty sure he means in the conference.
- MBFlyerfan


I would hope so or he is delusional.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Sep 19 @ 1:10 PM ET
Master technician and strategist John Tortorella getting his team in tip top shape before the season even starts. While the rest of the dopey teams ramp up during the season, the Flyers gold standard has them ready from the first puck drop.

I’m sure the wheels won’t start to fall off again once the season starts to actually matter.

- StepfordSam

No teams do the archaic Torts test. Could have been useful in the 70s when the players smoked 🚬 and were boozing the whole offseason. Now most players are full-time athletes through the break.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Sep 19 @ 1:12 PM ET
https://x.com/i/web/status/1836571650495492313

what a dope.

- hello it's me 2050


Oh boy....hopefully Vegas wins!

That means they need someone for their LTIR to add at the deadline...

Hi, Knights....meet Mr. Ellis
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Sep 19 @ 1:20 PM ET
"The Anaheim Ducks picked veteran defenseman Radko Gudas to be the ninth captain in franchise history on Thursday"
"Gudas is the first player to wear the "C" for the Ducks since Ryan Getzlaf retired at the end of the 2021-22 season"

Nice to see Gudas having a solid career. Always liked him.
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Sep 19 @ 1:24 PM ET
the roster they have going into the season is better than the one that ended it imo.

Hayes will have bounce back year production wise I believe.

- hello it's me 2050

Their bottom 6 is awful. Their top 6 is old. Letang and Karlsson play no defense and Jarry is inconsistent. They arent making the playoffs. Hayes will have a comeback year you are kidding. We all know what Hayes is
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Sep 19 @ 1:24 PM ET
"The Anaheim Ducks picked veteran defenseman Radko Gudas to be the ninth captain in franchise history on Thursday"
"Gudas is the first player to wear the "C" for the Ducks since Ryan Getzlaf retired at the end of the 2021-22 season"

Nice to see Gudas having a solid career. Always liked him.

- dubc55


Seems like a Verbeek pick...even though players pick the captain, I believe.

Kind of says a lot about the young players not ready to carry the torch.
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Sep 19 @ 1:26 PM ET
Oh nice. A prediction.

I will go with: 9-14 in standings.

I also said MM would be in the 65-70 pts. I will revise a little and say:63-70.

Bookmarking this, just for fun.

- PT21

10 to 15 in standings. MM 47 points my guess
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