Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Wrap: Flyers Beat Caps, 4-2; Game 2 Roster Heads to Montreal
Author Message
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 23 @ 10:05 PM ET
Well that game wasn't worth suffering through the French commercials to watch
- Glak18



furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Sep 23 @ 10:06 PM ET
Foerster came to camp and blew people away, that is why he made the team. The Flyers were not expecting both him and Brink to make the team.

To make the team you have to be better than the players on it. Zamula earned his spot. Attard hasnt earned jack. If he continues to play like he did tonight he has no business being on the team. Ive heard the Flyers are higher on Ginning than Attard. Even if the Flyers made a move to make room for a call up, Andrae and Ginning have looked much better than Attard.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

The comment was you need to blow people away in the AHL. Neither did.

I will explain it to you as well. Zamula and Attard play different sides. They are not in competition with each other.

Flyers do not it appears to be high on either Ginning or Attard. That has been clear for a while now.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Sep 23 @ 10:08 PM ET
Foerster came to camp and blew people away, that is why he made the team. The Flyers were not expecting both him and Brink to make the team.

To make the team you have to be better than the players on it. Zamula earned his spot. Attard hasnt earned jack. If he continues to play like he did tonight he has no business being on the team. Ive heard the Flyers are higher on Ginning than Attard. Even if the Flyers made a move to make room for a call up, Andrae and Ginning have looked much better than Attard.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

You would think Attard would have gotten the call when Risto went down for most of last season…odd ? Or is it more likely he’s just not played well enough over others?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 23 @ 10:13 PM ET
Foerster came to camp and blew people away, that is why he made the team. The Flyers were not expecting both him and Brink to make the team.

To make the team you have to be better than the players on it. Zamula earned his spot. Attard hasnt earned jack. If he continues to play like he did tonight he has no business being on the team. Ive heard the Flyers are higher on Ginning than Attard. Even if the Flyers made a move to make room for a call up, Andrae and Ginning have looked much better than Attard.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


A team that is supposedly rebuilding like the Flyers should be , should have created open roster spots available for young players to compete for. They should be competing against other younger players and not against established older veteran players who are not the future of the team. That is one area where the Flyers have been consistently wrong on.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Sep 23 @ 10:21 PM ET
You would think Attard would have gotten the call when Risto went down for most of last season…odd ? Or is it more likely he’s just not played well enough over others?
- landros 2

Risto last game was 2/1. Attards first 3/7.

Flyers dressed 7 dman for a good bit the rest of February. He wasn’t getting called no matter how he did for the Phantoms. Only reason him and Ginning got called up was necessity.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Sep 23 @ 11:06 PM ET
So, let me get this straight. ATTURD is back? Maybe they can bring Angelo back from Russia. On another note, looks like the Deadskins may have found themselves a QB! Or is the Bengals defense really that bad?

One more note, Tyreek Hill hires THREE lawyers to fight for police reform!! Hey clown, you were at fault dumbass!! Anyone that has ever been pulled over by a cop knows that it's simple procedure to roll your effing window down (especially when they are tinted) when asked to do so. I hope this blows up in his face! Thanks!
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 24 @ 12:08 AM ET
I think on the NHL network, they said that Drysdale added 10 pounds or something like that. Did anyone else catch this? bulking up a bit to withstand those big hits...

Brink Bee and Frost did look very solid. Preseason game vs rookie laden Wash lineup but i'll take it. Also liked the way Bjarnason played. I've heard he's in consideration to be one of the tenders for Canada's WJC U20 team this year.

- Hextall271

20ish lbs he went from like 176 to 190-something
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Sep 24 @ 2:59 AM ET
A team that is supposedly rebuilding like the Flyers should be , should have created open roster spots available for young players to compete for. They should be competing against other younger players and not against established older veteran players who are not the future of the team. That is one area where the Flyers have been consistently wrong on.
- MJL


Flawed thinking. All rebuilding teams have vets. Giving every AHL player a spot on the NHL roster is not having them compete for a spot.

Let the lot of them compete for the one, maybe two spots potentially available. Either take someone’s job at camp or get the call up and force them to keep you on the team. Handing out roster spots to every AHLer is lazy and not “development” - that’s throwing guys they don’t deem ready to the wolves (since ya know, they watch them play regularly) - then you’ll blame the flyers for poor development.

For gods sake, we have York, Drysdale and Zamula on the roster right now - are we just complaining to complain because we aren’t gifting Attard a roster spot? Lol listen to yourself

You throw around regurgitated, cookie cutter blanket statements on how to do things but it’s nuance that always escapes you.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 24 @ 6:52 AM ET
A team that is supposedly rebuilding like the Flyers should be , should have created open roster spots available for young players to compete for. They should be competing against other younger players and not against established older veteran players who are not the future of the team. That is one area where the Flyers have been consistently wrong on.
- MJL

This I disagree with you on. What does it matter if a younger player beats out another younger player? This is no way means that player is ready for the NHL. No, instead a younger player should beat out a veteran player for a spot in the NHL. Foerster and Brink did that last year, which is why Deslauriers sat for most of the 2nd half of the season. What was concerning to me is how much Staal played before he got hurt, and then the Flyers went out and got EJ at the deadline. That indicated to me the Flyers did not think they had any young defenseman ready for the NHL. I mean Delpedio was the only call-up last year. And there does not seem to be a spot for any young player this year unless one of the young players can beat out Zamula which I don't see happening. Just my opinion.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 24 @ 7:29 AM ET
This I disagree with you on. What does it matter if a younger player beats out another younger player? This is no way means that player is ready for the NHL. No, instead a younger player should beat out a veteran player for a spot in the NHL. Foerster and Brink did that last year, which is why Deslauriers sat for most of the 2nd half of the season. What was concerning to me is how much Staal played before he got hurt, and then the Flyers went out and got EJ at the deadline. That indicated to me the Flyers did not think they had any young defenseman ready for the NHL. I mean Delpedio was the only call-up last year. And there does not seem to be a spot for any young player this year unless one of the young players can beat out Zamula which I don't see happening. Just my opinion.
- jd250


Where exactly did I state that a young player should play in the NHL if he is not ready for the NHL? I stopped reading your nonsense at that point. I'll explain it to you. The Flyers pretty much have a top 4 set with Sanheim, Drysdale, York and Seeler. That leaves two spots left in the top 6. They have veterans in Ristolainen and Johnson. Zamula, a young player, has already shown that he can play in the NHL. Flahr said sometime last season that Andrae is ready for the NHL and Ginning also looked like he could hold his own. Attard was an AHL all star and is not exactly a young wet behind the nose kid. On paper, maybe there is one spot for a young player with Zamula, having played last season with the edge. There should be two. Johnson should've never been signed and Rstolainen should be the 6/7 defenseman, preferably the 7th with the players mentioned battling for two spots. That's what the Flyers should be doing if they were actually rebuilding.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Sep 24 @ 7:33 AM ET
Where exactly did I state that a young player should play in the NHL if he is not ready for the NHL? I stopped reading your nonsense at that point. I'll explain it to you. The Flyers pretty much have a top 4 set with Sanheim, Drysdale, York and Seeler. That leaves two spots left in the top 6. They have veterans in Ristolainen and Johnson. Zamula, a young player, has already shown that he can play in the NHL. Flahr said sometime last season that Andrae is ready for the NHL and Ginning also looked like he could hold his own. Attard was an AHL all star and is not exactly a young wet behind the nose kid. On paper, maybe there is one spot for a young player with Zamula, having played last season with the edge. There should be two. Johnson should've never been signed and Rstolainen should be the 6/7 defenseman, preferably the 7th with the players mentioned battling for two spots. That's what the Flyers should be doing if they were actually rebuilding.
- MJL
I'd just love to see you as GM! So many ideas and yet there you sit, nowhere near a GM job anywhere in the league. How did they skip you over? The carnage!!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 24 @ 7:37 AM ET
So, let me get this straight. ATTURD is back? Maybe they can bring Angelo back from Russia. On another note, looks like the Deadskins may have found themselves a QB! Or is the Bengals defense really that bad?

One more note, Tyreek Hill hires THREE lawyers to fight for police reform!! Hey clown, you were at fault dumbass!! Anyone that has ever been pulled over by a cop knows that it's simple procedure to roll your effing window down (especially when they are tinted) when asked to do so. I hope this blows up in his face! Thanks!

- Phillywhiteout


Actually it depends on the laws of the state you're in. In Pa, you are not required by law to roll down your window. It's recommended that you do, out of respect and to put an officer at ease but not a law. Fla has an ID law where if stopped by police, you are required by law to show ID.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 24 @ 7:38 AM ET
I'd just love to see you as GM! So many ideas and yet there you sit, nowhere near a GM job anywhere in the league. How did they skip you over? The carnage!!
- Phillywhiteout


You never fail to disappoint in showing how stupid you are.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Sep 24 @ 7:50 AM ET
Actually it depends on the laws of the state you're in. In Pa, you are not required by law to roll down your window. It's recommended that you do, out of respect and to put an officer at ease but not a law. Fla has an ID law where if stopped by police, you are required by law to show ID.
- MJL
In this case common sense supersedes any laws. I mean, a cop never knows what he is dealing with when he pulls someone over, so just do the common sense thing to make them feel at ease as you said. Hell, I thought tinted windows were illegal. What really grinds my gears is the fact that this dude is trying to make it sound like he is making a statement for the people when in fact it is all about himself as it has been for his entire life! Just another spoiled entitled overpaid athlete. I mean, every time I've been pulled over (many times) I've been asked for ID and give it to them without thinking.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 24 @ 8:07 AM ET
Where exactly did I state that a young player should play in the NHL if he is not ready for the NHL? I stopped reading your nonsense at that point. I'll explain it to you. The Flyers pretty much have a top 4 set with Sanheim, Drysdale, York and Seeler. That leaves two spots left in the top 6. They have veterans in Ristolainen and Johnson. Zamula, a young player, has already shown that he can play in the NHL. Flahr said sometime last season that Andrae is ready for the NHL and Ginning also looked like he could hold his own. Attard was an AHL all star and is not exactly a young wet behind the nose kid. On paper, maybe there is one spot for a young player with Zamula, having played last season with the edge. There should be two. Johnson should've never been signed and Rstolainen should be the 6/7 defenseman, preferably the 7th with the players mentioned battling for two spots. That's what the Flyers should be doing if they were actually rebuilding.
- MJL

I know you don't like Risto, but how on Earth can you state with any sincerity that Risto should be the 7th defenseman on this team. In actuality EJ is the 8th defenseman on this team, and the top 6 is already set with York/Sanheim, Drysdale/Seeler, Risto/Zamula. EJ is your 8th defenseman. So the only real spot is a 7th defenseman or being the first call up when injuries occur, which we all know they will. Attard should be getting PP time, otherwise he is useless. The best thing for the Flyers rebuild is for Risto to have a good first 3 months of the season, so he has good trade value come the deadline. Having Risto as the 7th defenseman pretty much means the Flyers are stuck with him for another 3 years. That is the opposite of what a rebuilding team should do.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 24 @ 8:52 AM ET
In this case common sense supersedes any laws. I mean, a cop never knows what he is dealing with when he pulls someone over, so just do the common sense thing to make them feel at ease as you said. Hell, I thought tinted windows were illegal. What really grinds my gears is the fact that this dude is trying to make it sound like he is making a statement for the people when in fact it is all about himself as it has been for his entire life! Just another spoiled entitled overpaid athlete. I mean, every time I've been pulled over (many times) I've been asked for ID and give it to them without thinking.
- Phillywhiteout


It doesn't supersede the law. It's recommended as a courtesy to the police and I would do it but in Pa, you are not required by law to roll down the window. I saw the dash cam video in the Hill incident and there was some questionable activity by the police.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 24 @ 8:56 AM ET
I know you don't like Risto, but how on Earth can you state with any sincerity that Risto should be the 7th defenseman on this team. In actuality EJ is the 8th defenseman on this team, and the top 6 is already set with York/Sanheim, Drysdale/Seeler, Risto/Zamula. EJ is your 8th defenseman. So the only real spot is a 7th defenseman or being the first call up when injuries occur, which we all know they will. Attard should be getting PP time, otherwise he is useless. The best thing for the Flyers rebuild is for Risto to have a good first 3 months of the season, so he has good trade value come the deadline. Having Risto as the 7th defenseman pretty much means the Flyers are stuck with him for another 3 years. That is the opposite of what a rebuilding team should do.
- jd250


It's simple. Ristolainen is not a very good player and should not in any way be a part of the future of this team. The Flyers should be rebuilding and prioritizing playing younger players who may have a future on this team over players that don't. Would it be smart to keep a young player as a 7th defenseman? Other NHL teams know what Ristolainen can do as a player. Otherwise at best, maybe he has play some to show he is healthy. Which they can do with him as a 6/7. The return for Ristolainen is not going to be anything special and the Flyers should be prioritizing playing younger players over any trade considerations for Ristolainen. He is a sunk cost.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 24 @ 9:27 AM ET
It's simple. Ristolainen is not a very good player and should not in any way be a part of the future of this team. The Flyers should be rebuilding and prioritizing playing younger players who may have a future on this team over players that don't. Would it be smart to keep a young player as a 7th defenseman? Other NHL teams know what Ristolainen can do as a player. Otherwise at best, maybe he has play some to show he is healthy. Which they can do with him as a 6/7. The return for Ristolainen is not going to be anything special and the Flyers should be prioritizing playing younger players over any trade considerations for Ristolainen. He is a sunk cost.
- MJL

Risto is a solid RHS NHL defenseman with good size and skating ability. He is at a minimum a top 5 defenseman on every team in this league. I get you don't like him, but calling him a 7th defenseman is nonsense. We agree Risto is not part of the future of this team, but until the Flyers have someone in their system that is better than he is, Risto is their best option. I believe a healthy Risto that keeps his physical game in check will be a big deadline pickup for a contending team, and thus the Flyers can get something significant back in a trade.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 24 @ 9:49 AM ET
Risto is a solid RHS NHL defenseman with good size and skating ability. He is at a minimum a top 5 defenseman on every team in this league. I get you don't like him, but calling him a 7th defenseman is nonsense. We agree Risto is not part of the future of this team, but until the Flyers have someone in their system that is better than he is, Risto is their best option. I believe a healthy Risto that keeps his physical game in check will be a big deadline pickup for a contending team, and thus the Flyers can get something significant back in a trade.
- jd250


You are incorrect. He is a 3rd pair defenseman now who has completely lost his offensive game and is mediocre defensively. At the right price, cap hit, he has some value as a 3rd pair defenseman. You are not understanding. I'm not calling him a 7th defenseman. I'm saying he should be a 7th defenseman on THIS team because he should not have a future with this team. The Flyers should prioritize playing younger defenseman over a player like him that doesn't have a future here. Doesn't matter if he is slightly better now, or to any degree for that matter. The Flyers should be rebuilding. You have never been correct about Ristolainen since day 1.
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9