What does being ready for a 9 game trial mean? Think about it. You have a player that just turned 18. A player that is not fully physically mature now. Your team is not going to be a contender where adding another skilled player might help you. In that situation, should you focus on what is best for the player or the team? With a player that is ultra important to your future, should you err on the side of caution with that players development? Because if you're going the 9 game route, that means that you are not fully convinced that he is ready for full time NHL duty. You also have a coach that is not exactly a guy who routinely favors the younger players over the vets. Who likes to scratch young players and loses patience fairly quickly. You're right, we've only seen him in a Flyers uniform against overall non-NHL level competition. There is plenty of material out there that details what Luchanko's strengths and weaknesses are as a player and what he needs to improve to play in the NHL.
- MJL

Was Conner Bedard physically mature last year? (We’re not talking about his undeniable generational talent, only physical maturity)

It is great that Jett has stirred this conversation, send him back unless he blows it away the rest of camp. Small sample size but it does appear he needs to work on his finish, being sent back will do that. Still more time to see, hope he just gets better vs better players

It is great that Jett has stirred this conversation, send him back unless he blows it away the rest of camp. Small sample size but it does appear he needs to work on his finish, being sent back will do that. Still more time to see, hope he just gets better vs better players
- wcorvette

Absolutely send him back I'd say. We can't let our weak centre depth dictate our actions on this kid. There's no rush.

Can we make it a rule that a post can't be multiple paragraphs? Multiple pages are just 4 or 5 posts. Each post had a multiple paragraph reply along with the multiple original post.

Was Conner Bedard physically mature last year? (We’re not talking about his undeniable generational talent, only physical maturity)
- mikeyo27

Jett Luchanko is not Connor Bedard.

He has played in scrimmages and early pre season games against predominantly non-nhl competition. There is nothing to reward him for. You give him positive reinforcement. Outline what he needs to work on and send him back to juniors. You started out with it really depends on the player, which is targeted and specific. Then proceeded to post nothing by generalities. Rather than a focus on the player specifically and if he is actually ready for the NHL. There is no reason to use the 9 game approach. He either makes the team 100% or he doesn't.
- MJL

The problem with Luchanko's situation is his Geulph team Sucks from what I understand, so sending him back their might not be the best for this development. Luchanko is also too young to play in the AHL. If Luchanko keeps his play up in the pre-season and practice, I am starting to think the Flyers will keep him with the club for his 9 games and then send him back to Geulph. The good thing about this is its 9 personal games, not team games, so he can spend 6 weeks or more with the Flyers continueing to develop and getting some NHL experience. Then he goes back and gets 20 minutes a game in all situations at the Geulph.

Was Conner Bedard physically mature last year? (We’re not talking about his undeniable generational talent, only physical maturity)
- mikeyo27

Jett is very mature for his age from what people are saying about him, and more importantly, he is a workout freak. Torts even said he has elite conditioning. Apparently he was not phased at all by Tort's rope skate which for an 18 year kid is off the charts. He's turning heads so far.

Jett Luchanko is not Connor Bedard.
- MJL

That was a deflection. Lemme ask again.

Was Conner Bedard physically mature last year? And I remind you that my original question noted his “undeniable generational talent” and limited the question to only the “physically mature” issue.

The problem with Luchanko's situation is his Geulph team Sucks from what I understand, so sending him back their might not be the best for this development. Luchanko is also too young to play in the AHL. If Luchanko keeps his play up in the pre-season and practice, I am starting to think the Flyers will keep him with the club for his 9 games and then send him back to Geulph. The good thing about this is its 9 personal games, not team games, so he can spend 6 weeks or more with the Flyers continueing to develop and getting some NHL experience. Then he goes back and gets 20 minutes a game in all situations at the Geulph.
- jd250

How good his junior team is, is irrelevant to the situation in my opinion. Keeping him for the 9 games is a mistake. He is either ready for the NHL or he is not. Based on what I know, he is not ready.

Absolutely send him back I'd say. We can't let our weak centre depth dictate our actions on this kid. There's no rush.
- Hextall271

This is right, but it would be nice to see a 3rd line of Jett-Bee-Brink instead of Laughts-Bee-Brink. Maybe in pre-season we will see this.

How good his junior team is, is irrelevant to the situation in my opinion. Keeping him for the 9 games is a mistake. He is either ready for the NHL or he is not. Based on what I know, he is not ready.
- MJL

Oh, he is not ready for sure, but what is the harm in keeping him for up to 9 games?

That was a deflection. Lemme ask again.

Was Conner Bedard physically mature last year? And I remind you that my original question noted his “undeniable generational talent” and limited the question to only the “physically mature” issue.
- mikeyo27

You can ask a question any way you want and put limits on it but I'm not bound by that. Apparently you don't know what is meant by Luchanko is not Bedard. If you understood that, you would know there was no deflection.

Oh, he is not ready for sure, but what is the harm in keeping him for up to 9 games?
- jd250

Why keep him up for 9 games if he is not ready? Very little to gain. I would send him back right now. Guelph's season starts Friday.

Jett is very mature for his age from what people are saying about him, and more importantly, he is a workout freak. Torts even said he has elite conditioning. Apparently he was not phased at all by Tort's rope skate which for an 18 year kid is off the charts. He's turning heads so far.
- jd250

The kid built a gym in his basement during covid, he might be the best conditioned player for the Flyers.

The kid built a gym in his basement during covid, he might be the best conditioned player for the Flyers.
- WhiskeyMan

He certainly might be. It’s great that he’s created these conversations but I’d be sending him back after camp. Have a great season, play for the world junior team and see you next rookie camp. Simply put there’s no need to rush him. Great that he’s turned heads but what if you keep him up, burn a year on his elc and then he hits a wall in say December. Struggles. Loses confidence. Then what?

You can ask a question any way you want and put limits on it but I'm not bound by that. Apparently you don't know what is meant by Luchanko is not Bedard. If you understood that, you would know there was no deflection.
- MJL

You lose respect when you answer a question that was not asked or answer with another question.

I am sure Bedard was not physically mature last season. According to his stats he is 5'10 and weighs 185. He is also only 19 and has room to grow.

Jett is 5'11 and weighs 180. He is 18. I am sure he some room to grow as well.

And yes we all know skill wise they don't compare.

He certainly might be. It’s great that he’s created these conversations but I’d be sending him back after camp. Have a great season, play for the world junior team and see you next rookie camp. Simply put there’s no need to rush him. Great that he’s turned heads but what if you keep him up, burn a year on his elc and then he hits a wall in say December. Struggles. Loses confidence. Then what?
- Hextall271

You would send him back to juniors.

He certainly might be. It’s great that he’s created these conversations but I’d be sending him back after camp. Have a great season, play for the world junior team and see you next rookie camp. Simply put there’s no need to rush him. Great that he’s turned heads but what if you keep him up, burn a year on his elc and then he hits a wall in say December. Struggles. Loses confidence. Then what?
- Hextall271

I would send him back as well, no need to keep him around this season. Maybe next season but definitely not this season.

Jett Luchanko is not Connor Bedard.
- MJL

And Bedard isn't Luchanko. Luchanko is apparently a gym rat and he scored among the highest in many fitness tests. The next Brindy is upon us!!

Centers arent a joke. You underestimate the Cs. Couturier has some risk, we dont know if he will fully get back to what he was but at his best he was a #1 Selke C. If he can play well enough to just be an overpaid Center, we can live with that. What we cant live with is with another 20-30 point season.

Frost had 41 points, had some inconsistencies however he missed 11 games due to being a scratch so his point total could have been a few points higher. If he can produce a min of 9 more points than last season, he is producing like a decent #2 and its a step in the right direction.

You keep refering to Laughton as a 4th liner but the reality is he isnt. He had 39 points last season which is very good for a 3rd liner. He doesnt have flashy hands but he gets the job done.

Poehling is a 4th line C and produced very well for a guy of that skill level. He had 28 points which is frantastic for a guy like him. It isnt as simple as saying he played more at the end of the year and just got points from the better players. You need to be able to hold your own on a line for that line to produce. Milan Lucic played with McDavid and he was an anchor to McDavid and hurt his production and Lucic did not get any benefit of playing with him. Point is Poehling played like one of the top 4th line players out there last season and he is just 25 years old.

The issue at C is frankly we dont know what to expect just as with the goaltending. I dont deny Laughton could see himself in a 4th line role in the future if not moved but today is not that time. For better or worse we are stuck with Coots. Frost can be replaced and we all knoiw once Jett makes the team Laughton will be replaced.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

nothing you said changes the fact the flyers have one of weakest center groups in the league. you seem to disagree.

I would send him back as well, no need to keep him around this season. Maybe next season but definitely not this season.
- WhiskeyMan

If he come in next year and looks stronger with more weight on and shows he can handle games vs something closer to real nhl rosters, then consider it. I see no shame in him not starting with the big club a couple years from now.

Interesting that we signed that tender makiniemi. This really closes the door on kolosov this season I would think and the terrible play of Petersen really forced their hand I’d say. All that kolosov had to do was come in, start in the an and wait for an injury with feds or sam and he’d have gotten his shot. Really blew it imo.

And Bedard isn't Luchanko. Luchanko is apparently a gym rat and he scored among the highest in many fitness tests. The next Brindy is upon us!!

- Phillywhiteout

Omg. That would be epic if he turns out anywhere close to that. Wow.

And Bedard isn't Luchanko. Luchanko is apparently a gym rat and he scored among the highest in many fitness tests. The next Brindy is upon us!!

- Phillywhiteout

Woohoo!!!!!

If he come in next year and looks stronger with more weight on and shows he can handle games vs something closer to real nhl rosters, then consider it. I see no shame in him not starting with the big club a couple years from now.

Interesting that we signed that tender makiniemi. This really closes the door on kolosov this season I would think and the terrible play of Petersen really forced their hand I’d say. All that kolosov had to do was come in, start in the an and wait for an injury with feds or sam and he’d have gotten his shot. Really blew it imo.
- Hextall271

I don't think that closes the door on Kolosov.

much like frost, looks like the jett felating will/is getting out of control.

- whether or not the flyers keep him for 9 games or the entire season. do you have faith the flyers will put him in a position to succeed?

- saying his confidence can get shattered is something I do not fully buy. Flip side is wouldn't his confidence go through the roof if he made the nhl team? perhaps give him some swagger he never had?

- I have zero doubt the 3 stooges, or at least 2, would be thrilled if he made the team. then they can give each other a pat on the back. showing how smart they are.