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mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Sep 24 @ 9:29 AM ET
I don't see him getting a big raise
- WhiskeyMan


Why would he get any raise?
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Sep 24 @ 9:30 AM ET
Why would he get any raise?
- mickel25

How many players besides Crosby sign for the same amount? I thing he will be offered 3 million, Laughtons contract
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Sep 24 @ 9:31 AM ET
he def has a path on the surface.
- hello it's me 2050


He sure does. Beat out Cal Peterson for the starting role with the Phantoms. One of Ersson or Fedotov get hurt. Two steps that seem almost 100% likely.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 24 @ 9:32 AM ET
Kolosov should be like, wtf did I not just not show up and win the job? Ill be the NHL starter by January with these clowns.
- MBFlyersfan

Kolosov can come over right now, honor his contract, and win the starting job for the phantoms. But apparently he feels that is beneath him. He can sit and rot in the KHL for all I care. I hope the Flyers stick it to him so he never plays an NHL game. That will be a lesson to him and any other player that thinks they are bigger than the game.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Sep 24 @ 9:34 AM ET
How many players besides Crosby sign for the same amount? I thing he will be offered 3 million, Laughtons contract
- WhiskeyMan


I am not saying he won't ask or possibly sign for more. Why would the Flyers offer or sign him for more? What has he improved on since his rookie year? He is not a center anymore and he primarily plays on the 4th line.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 24 @ 9:34 AM ET
How many players besides Crosby sign for the same amount? I thing he will be offered 3 million, Laughtons contract
- WhiskeyMan

if he plays 4th line all year then that is 100% a mistake to re-sign him. they will however. Cant be paying 4th line players that kind of coin.

They already have over 6 million tied up on their 4th line. As a non playoff team that is a joke.

Cates- Laughton- RP- GH. That is overkill.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Sep 24 @ 9:35 AM ET
Kolosov can come over right now, honor his contract, and win the starting job for the phantoms. But apparently he feels that is beneath him. He can sit and rot in the KHL for all I care. I hope the Flyers stick it to him so he never plays an NHL game. That will be a lesson to him and any other player that thinks they are bigger than the game.
- jd250

why do you always project just one side of the story? always trying to make the flyers look in the right and speculating about the player.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 24 @ 9:38 AM ET
He sure does. Beat out Cal Peterson for the starting role with the Phantoms. One of Ersson or Fedotov get hurt. Two steps that seem almost 100% likely.
- mickel25


That's how I see it. Or if say Feds struggles and needs some AHL time, then there's your path kid.

I noted that TK hasn't played either of the first two games. I think someone mentioned this before. Is he banged up?
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Sep 24 @ 9:39 AM ET
I am not saying he won't ask or possibly sign for more. Why would the Flyers offer or sign him for more? What has he improved on since his rookie year? He is not a center anymore and he primarily plays on the 4th line.
- mickel25


I think if he shows any improvement he will get a new contract.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Sep 24 @ 9:40 AM ET
I think if he shows any improvement he will get a new contract.
- WhiskeyMan

lets say he stays static. you see them not qualifying him?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Sep 24 @ 9:41 AM ET
I think if he shows any improvement he will get a new contract.
- WhiskeyMan


I do not doubt he gets a new contract. Just not sure you need to lock into a 4th line winger for close to $3mil per year. Torts likes him though. That is a feather in his cap for sure.
26912 PP
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Location: Lucca
Joined: 06.27.2024

Sep 24 @ 9:41 AM ET
Montreal entered the O zone with relative ease. Flyers continued their boring dump and chase that has been their signature for the past five decades. Only problem is they are not fast enough to chase. SC and SL were invisible, and ND was -3 so we are in mid-season form. The Flyers could not keep up with Montreal.....
- mr4tno
Flyers actually play a speed game these days - the old slow dump and chase has not been a large part of their game in yrs. Obviously, last night was a shyt show, but my largest takeaway is just how much of a genius Peterson's agent is.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Sep 24 @ 9:42 AM ET
That's how I see it. Or if say Feds struggles and needs some AHL time, then there's your path kid.

I noted that TK hasn't played either of the first two games. I think someone mentioned this before. Is he banged up?

- Hextall271

does he have a clause saying if he gets sent down he can go back to russia? mm does though he may as well though not sure.

wouldn't that look good if he struggles and danny wasted 3.5 per for 2 years.
26912 PP
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Sep 24 @ 9:45 AM ET
why do you always project just one side of the story? always trying to make the flyers look in the right and speculating about the player.
- hello it's me 2050
- he actually could have competed for an NHL job. There are no guarantees with their starting goalies this year. Kolosov is not going to find too many more better options for him than coming to the Flyers in camp this season.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Sep 24 @ 9:45 AM ET
does he have a clause saying if he gets sent down he can go back to russia? mm does though he may as well though not sure.

wouldn't that look good if he struggles and danny wasted 3.5 per for 2 years.

- hello it's me 2050


It's far from a lock that he will be a good NHL backup. Lot of adjustments needed to be made over the summer.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 24 @ 9:49 AM ET
does he have a clause saying if he gets sent down he can go back to russia? mm does though he may as well though not sure.

wouldn't that look good if he struggles and danny wasted 3.5 per for 2 years.

- hello it's me 2050



I haven't heard that he has such a clause. I don't expect him to struggle, it was a hypothetical. I am hoping that he can at least serve as a competent backup to Sam and at best split with him. To answer your question, it would not be a good look, but the Hart situation certainly forced his hand there I'd say as he needed two competent NHL tenders (expecting that Feds is capable of that)
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Sep 24 @ 9:50 AM ET
Kolosov can come over right now, honor his contract, and win the starting job for the phantoms. But apparently he feels that is beneath him. He can sit and rot in the KHL for all I care. I hope the Flyers stick it to him so he never plays an NHL game. That will be a lesson to him and any other player that thinks they are bigger than the game.
- jd250



Can you show us on the doll where Kolosov and Cutter hurt you?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 24 @ 9:53 AM ET
- he actually could have competed for an NHL job. There are no guarantees with their starting goalies this year. Kolosov is not going to find too many more better options for him than coming to the Flyers in camp this season.
- 26912 PP

the top 2 spots on the flyers are taken by sam and the ivan to start the year. nothing performance wise is/was going to change that.

that is a stone cold fact.
hello it's me 2050
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Sep 24 @ 9:54 AM ET
It's far from a lock that he will be a good NHL backup. Lot of adjustments needed to be made over the summer.
- mickel25

yep and since it was only a 2 year deal it wont kill you long term if he sucks. 3.5 was an incredible overpay however.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Sep 24 @ 9:54 AM ET
lets say he stays static. you see them not qualifying him?
- hello it's me 2050


In my mind if I see that he is not improving, maybe try to trade him for something.
But knowing the Flyers, they will still resign him, maybe a 1 year prove myself deal.
If Torts comes back as the coach he definitely, he is a Torts favorite I believe.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 24 @ 9:55 AM ET
He is really missing an easy chance to be in the NHL this season. What a bozo.
- mickel25


Maybe an easy chance to play some games in the NHL but to be in the NHL full time. Not unless there is a significant injury to Ersson or Fedotov.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Sep 24 @ 9:56 AM ET
I haven't heard that he has such a clause. I don't expect him to struggle, it was a hypothetical. I am hoping that he can at least serve as a competent backup to Sam and at best split with him. To answer your question, it would not be a good look, but the Hart situation certainly forced his hand there I'd say as he needed two competent NHL tenders (expecting that Feds is capable of that)
- Hextall271

I do not know what to expect from him. Sam still hasnt shown he is nothing more than a backup.

I see split city to an extent (sam the incumbent coming in) depending upon performance obviously .
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Sep 24 @ 9:58 AM ET
I do not doubt he gets a new contract. Just not sure you need to lock into a 4th line winger for close to $3mil per year. Torts likes him though. That is a feather in his cap for sure.
- mickel25


3 million next season won't be a bad number with the Salary cap going up. The bigger question is what do they do with Laughton.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 24 @ 9:58 AM ET
In my mind if I see that he is not improving, maybe try to trade him for something.
But knowing the Flyers, they will still resign him, maybe a 1 year prove myself deal.
If Torts comes back as the coach he definitely, he is a Torts favorite I believe.

- WhiskeyMan

cant fall in love with players someone once said.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 24 @ 9:59 AM ET
I haven't heard that he has such a clause. I don't expect him to struggle, it was a hypothetical. I am hoping that he can at least serve as a competent backup to Sam and at best split with him. To answer your question, it would not be a good look, but the Hart situation certainly forced his hand there I'd say as he needed two competent NHL tenders (expecting that Feds is capable of that)
- Hextall271


There is no such clause that can be installed in an ELC or any SPC that I'm aware of. Once a player is signed, it is the teams control on where the player plays, who he is loaned to, etc.
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