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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 26 @ 10:48 AM ET
Not sure what plan would be for Peterson…watching the other night in MTL…I cant say I care…lol.
Makiniemi is only 25…..has had some injury issues derail his career to this point but was a highly touted prospect on a few years ago….not a bad up to bring in at all.

- landros 2

phuck cal pay him his money and move on. he should not factor into any conversation at all. he goes to echl or loaned out....this assumes kolsov will play in the ahl.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 26 @ 10:49 AM ET
You are but for Coots to become a Jordan Staal like player near the end of the contract isnt the worst thing in the world. Not ideal but at least you got a productive player wheras the alternative is that he isnt productive at all. I dont see the Flyers dipping into FA next season. Theres too much money that needs to be paid out to the players we have.

Frost
York
Michkov
Foerster
Drysdale
Farabee
Ersson
Brink

Will all need new contracts in the next 1-3 years. Depending on how well they do we could be paying a lot of money to these players

Good news is Ellis will be gone, Peterssen gone, Delaurier gone, Hathaway Gone, Laughton probably gone if not resigned at much lower hit, Cates gone or signed at lower rate, Fedotov gone. That and Cap increases can probably cover those raises.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

looking forward to seeing danny boy give out fair contracts to those players. No indication laughton/cates will gone or sign at a lower rate.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 26 @ 10:50 AM ET
Just a reminder that there is no salary cap in the AHL. I don't know what the roster rules are but they don't have to worry about the payroll.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 26 @ 10:52 AM ET
Just a reminder that there is no salary cap in the AHL. I don't know what the roster rules are but they don't have to worry about the payroll.
- MJL

thanks cliff
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 26 @ 10:54 AM ET
If that is true, then the Flyers are showing that they want to work with the player. They are giving way some when they don't have to. That is a good thing.
- MJL

The kid also probably realized that
A. It’s his only chance to have an NHL career
and
B. The Flyers current goalie tandem ain’t exactly Hasek & Roy.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Sep 26 @ 10:54 AM ET
Just a reminder that there is no salary cap in the AHL. I don't know what the roster rules are but they don't have to worry about the payroll.
- MJL


They would have to let Cal play some games I would think. How many games would you give him, he is untradeable so him playing well doesn't matter?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 26 @ 10:55 AM ET
A coach should coach. Benching a player repeatedly without explanation is not coaching to me. This is especially true when other players are seemingly immune to being benched despite long periods of sub par play.
- mickel25

But this never happened. Frost was benched and told why. So was Couts.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Sep 26 @ 11:00 AM ET
Peterson in Reading! He’s gonna love it. The pagoda. The minor league baseball. The Rajah Theater. The Duryea Hillclimb. The Ugly Oyster and Northeast Taproom. The smell of mushroom farms wafting in from out of town to cover up the city’s urine odor.

He might like it. He could afford a palace in Reading. No Flying Hills Apartment Complex for him like the rest of the minor leaguers. Find somewhere out near where Roger Penske had a house.

I do like the Royals’ stadium. It’s better than what Reading deserves.

- Hesh_


Don’t forget the smell from the sewage plant coming in from 422
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 26 @ 11:02 AM ET
They would have to let Cal play some games I would think. How many games would you give him, he is untradeable so him playing well doesn't matter?
- WhiskeyMan

no they dont. they owe cal nada
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Sep 26 @ 11:03 AM ET
But this never happened. Frost was benched and told why. So was Couts.
- jd250


No they were not. At least not initially. Also, Torts left it up to the assistants to tell Coots.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Sep 26 @ 11:04 AM ET
no they dont. they owe cal nada
- hello it's me 2050


Well if Eeatu or Kolosov or both go down, he would play some games.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Sep 26 @ 11:11 AM ET
Are Danny and Jonesy going to the airport to pick up Kolosov and carry his sticks also?
- jd250

Man. You really want to be accepted around here, eh?
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 26 @ 11:12 AM ET
looking forward to seeing danny boy give out fair contracts to those players. No indication laughton/cates will gone or sign at a lower rate.
- hello it's me 2050



There is plenty of indication. Cates is playing 4th line minutes at 2.6 mill. He is making more than Hathaway, theres no way that continues. Flyers may also opt to just replace Cates with Lyksell. Laughton is going to be 32 at the end of his deal with Luchenko likely ready to make the roster if he isnt there already. There is no raise there for Laughton. Hes pretty much peaked. He will likely be pushed down to a 4th line role if they keep him and may be even hitting his decline at that point or at least in the next couple years.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Sep 26 @ 11:14 AM ET
Does the coach have to explain the benching to the fans or just to the player?
- WhiskeyMan


Well the current coach doesn't explain anything to the players if he benches them. The player in question has to go into Tort's office tell him to F off then sweep everything off his desk with extreme malice then threaten to kick his arse. Tort's gets a woody then will open the lines of communication.

xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 26 @ 11:14 AM ET
No they were not. At least not initially. Also, Torts left it up to the assistants to tell Coots.
- mickel25


Both can be true. It could have been communicated to them poorly.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Sep 26 @ 11:17 AM ET
Both can be true. It could have been communicated to them poorly.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Torts admitted he did not tell Frost. In fact he celebrated when Frost finally came to him to talk about it.

Couts was told nothing initially. He said as much when interviewed the day of.


jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 26 @ 11:18 AM ET
"He's [Evander Kane] going to be out for a while," Oilers general manager Stan Bowman said. "I don't want to speculate on that. I think our doctors will be able to give you a better handle on that, but he's not going to be here for a while."

With Evander Kane out, his cap hit about the same as Risto, and the Oilers need for a RHS 2nd pairing defenseman, I think there is a good chance the Flyers trade Risto to the Oilers if he continues to show he is healthy. This would free up a spot and enable both Ginning and Andrae to stay with the Flyers.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Sep 26 @ 11:18 AM ET
Both can be true. It could have been communicated to them poorly.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



Tort's himself has said he doesn't go to the players and it is up to them to figure out or go to the coach and ask.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 26 @ 11:19 AM ET
There is plenty of indication. Cates is playing 4th line minutes at 2.6 mill. He is making more than Hathaway, theres no way that continues. Flyers may also opt to just replace Cates with Lyksell. Laughton is going to be 32 at the end of his deal with Luchenko likely ready to make the roster if he isnt there already. There is no raise there for Laughton. Hes pretty much peaked. He will likely be pushed down to a 4th line role if they keep him and may be even hitting his decline at that point or at least in the next couple years.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

no there isnt. cates is being used a center so far in camp. they love laughton.

let me knwo when it happens.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 26 @ 11:20 AM ET
Torts admitted he did not tell Frost. In fact he celebrated when Frost finally came to him to talk about it.

Couts was told nothing initially. He said as much when interviewed the day of.

- mickel25

Torts publicly stated Couts needs to play better when asked about it. Do you honestly think Torts would say this in public without first talk to the player? I believe Torts in this instrance, and I don't believe Couts was being honest. Torts also has been very public with Fort's situation, in fact at one point stated Frost was up and down like a toilet seat. Again, no way Frost did not know what he was being benched.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 26 @ 11:22 AM ET
With Evander Kane out, his cap hit about the same as Risto, and the Oilers need for a RHS 2nd pairing defenseman, I think there is a good chance the Flyers trade Risto to the Oilers if he continues to show he is healthy. This would free up a spot and enable both Ginning and Andrae to stay with the Flyers.
- jd250

lol you really are a clown.

- he aint a 2nd pair guy

- oilers need a good top 4. not a bottom pair player

- 3 years and 5 million per. oilers have to sign bouchard. yeah real good chance they want RR as he has tons of playoff experience.

- RR plays right side, andrae and ginning do not.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Sep 26 @ 11:28 AM ET
I enjoy going to the Reading Phillies games. Awesome stadium. Royals games are fun for the kiddoes.
- mickel25

It is. I tease, but the minor league sports scene is excellent.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Sep 26 @ 11:42 AM ET
The kid also probably realized that
A. It’s his only chance to have an NHL career
and
B. The Flyers current goalie tandem ain’t exactly Hasek & Roy.

- BiggE

But he will be hated if he let's in beachballs. And looks like he wants to join the flyers goalie graveyard legacy.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 26 @ 12:02 PM ET
But this never happened. Frost was benched and told why. So was Couts.
- jd250


You're incorrect and uninformed about the coach you champion.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 26 @ 12:03 PM ET
With Evander Kane out, his cap hit about the same as Risto, and the Oilers need for a RHS 2nd pairing defenseman, I think there is a good chance the Flyers trade Risto to the Oilers if he continues to show he is healthy. This would free up a spot and enable both Ginning and Andrae to stay with the Flyers.
- jd250


The chances are slim.
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