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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 1 @ 1:56 PM ET
wish the US and Israel would just turn iran into a fn parking lot and be done with it. world would be a better place.
- hello it's me 2050

Amen
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Oct 1 @ 1:57 PM ET
wish the US and Israel would just turn iran into a fn parking lot and be done with it. world would be a better place.
- hello it's me 2050


And cover the desert with solar panels to fight climate change?!?
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 1 @ 2:10 PM ET
Apparently Drysdale has to learn how to play.

Not that I disagree, it's just funny the way he said it.


And I also agree that Risto is a Flyers defenseman.

- MBFlyerfan


A Flyers Defenseman of all time! He has had a good preseason.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 1 @ 2:12 PM ET
Apparently Drysdale has to learn how to play.

Not that I disagree, it's just funny the way he said it.


And I also agree that Risto is a Flyers defenseman.

- MBFlyerfan

didnt he say something similar about Tony D as well?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 1 @ 2:14 PM ET
They are the heart of the snake while the Saudis are the head.
- MBFlyerfan

one needs to go more than the other though, IMO.

amazes me how this administration "bows" to them for lack of a better word. Much like Hussein Obama did.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 1 @ 2:17 PM ET
And cover the desert with solar panels to fight climate change?!?
- corduroy

was thinking maybe a new Vegas!!!!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 1 @ 2:18 PM ET
Apparently Drysdale has to learn how to play.

Not that I disagree, it's just funny the way he said it.


And I also agree that Risto is a Flyers defenseman.

- MBFlyerfan

Yes, it was hilarious, great kid, doesn't know how to play

I wonder what they are saying about Gauthier in Anaheim?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 1 @ 2:19 PM ET
A Flyers Defenseman of all time! He has had a good preseason.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

RISTO! RISTO! RISTO!

You see folks, I was just ahead of my time
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 1 @ 2:27 PM ET
didnt he say something similar about Tony D as well?
- hello it's me 2050


Was something along the lines of he new the Defensive end needed work but didnt think it would need as much work as it did. DeAngelo was also was not very receptive to Torts methods as was Hayes. Hence why they are gone.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Oct 1 @ 2:29 PM ET
It's a very small sample of games that I have seen for a still very young player. Not fair to really pigeon hole him on that small sample. I can also see why they were enamored with him. Smart two way player with speed. What I didn't see was elite skill. I think he will be a pretty good player for the Flyers but I didn't see a player with star potential. Which is what they desperately need. Time will tell. Luchanko will no doubt rise in the prospect ranks. Right now though, from what I've seen, Buium is rated in the top dozen or so of NHL prospects. With #1 defenseman potential. The Flyers passed on him and reached for Luchanko.
- MJL


I can't argue with the belief that Buium is a top prospect, whether he'll be a number one is to be determined. Admittedly, I've never seen the kid play.

And I can't argue that the Flyers reached for Jett, if the experts are to be given their due. Again, I've never seen Jett play before recently.

It's just hard for me to fathom why so many teams passed on a #1 d-man. If it is widely believed that Zeev has the potential to be the next Makar/Q. Hughes, why was he the 6th D picked this year? That's where I wonder.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 1 @ 2:30 PM ET
Was something along the lines of he new the Defensive end needed work but didnt think it would need as much work as it did. DeAngelo was also was not very receptive to Torts methods as was Hayes. Hence why they are gone.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

speculation. Torst didn't like that they were popular in the "room" and didnt see eye to eye. that rubbed poor torts the wrong way.

funny part about JD is torts had a big say in them trading for JD.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Oct 1 @ 2:33 PM ET
speculation. Torst didn't like that they were popular in the "room" and didnt see eye to eye. that rubbed poor torts the wrong way.

funny part about JD is torts had a big say in them trading for JD.

- hello it's me 2050


you're gonna combat speculation with further speculation?

"dems da facts"
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 1 @ 2:35 PM ET
you're gonna combat speculation with further speculation?

"dems da facts"

- anti-lame

what further specualtion?

omg
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 1 @ 2:38 PM ET
one needs to go more than the other though, IMO.

amazes me how this administration "bows" to them for lack of a better word. Much like Hussein Obama did.

- hello it's me 2050




They basically paid for the missiles.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 1 @ 2:41 PM ET
I can't argue with the belief that Buium is a top prospect, whether he'll be a number one is to be determined. Admittedly, I've never seen the kid play.

And I can't argue that the Flyers reached for Jett, if the experts are to be given their due. Again, I've never seen Jett play before recently.

It's just hard for me to fathom why so many teams passed on a #1 d-man. If it is widely believed that Zeev has the potential to be the next Makar/Q. Hughes, why was he the 6th D picked this year? That's where I wonder.

- 77rams


I don't think the expectation for Buium is to be the next Makar. As a nugget, When Dallas took Heiskanen, Sakic in Colorado was pissed and disappointed that he had to take Makar.


https://www.flohockey.tv/...e-minnesota-wild-at-no-12
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Oct 1 @ 2:44 PM ET
A Flyers Defenseman of all time! He has had a good preseason.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



The rest of the quote was that he needs to learn to play D in the NHL since hasn't played a lot of games.

Don't be like the MSM and put only part of the quote out to make someone looknbad
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Oct 1 @ 2:45 PM ET
you're gonna combat speculation with further speculation?

"dems da facts"

- anti-lame



Where is Tony D playing now?
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Oct 1 @ 3:00 PM ET
I don't think the expectation for Buium is to be the next Makar. As a nugget, When Dallas took Heiskanen, Sakic in Colorado was pissed and disappointed that he had to take Makar.


https://www.flohockey.tv/...e-minnesota-wild-at-no-12

- MJL


Thanks. Good article. I agree with his conclusion.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 1 @ 3:09 PM ET
But it was one bad season. You dont make roster decisions based on 1 year. He didnt show any signs of declining, he was just bad
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


He's been near the bottom of the league defensively three years running.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 1 @ 3:10 PM ET
Thanks. Good article. I agree with his conclusion.
- 77rams


To clarify, I don't think the Flyers made a bad pick in Luchnko. I think he will be a good player for the Flyers. I just think they passed up the higher potential player.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Oct 1 @ 3:22 PM ET
Where is Tony D playing now?
- WhiskeyMan


oh I know... but I am not buying the "they were too popular in the room and Torts didn't like that" nonsense. they're gone because they suck, not because Torts had a vendetta against them.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 1 @ 3:27 PM ET
The rest of the quote was that he needs to learn to play D in the NHL since hasn't played a lot of games.

Don't be like the MSM and put only part of the quote out to make someone looknbad

- WhiskeyMan


Despite being only 22, he has played 147 games averaging nearly 20 min/game so i don't think it's fair to say he hasn't played a lot of games. That's nearly 2900 minutes of ice time in the NHL.

Not saying he should be a finished product but he's been playing in the deep end for 4 years and the only reason he doesn't have more games played is his propensity for significant injuries. Not to mention he's been practicing against NHL dmen and coached by NHL coaches those 4 years. Also, the way ANH plays defense is different than the way PHI plays defense which probably has an impact but since systems don't matter that won't be mentioned.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Oct 1 @ 3:30 PM ET
oh I know... but I am not buying the "they were too popular in the room and Torts didn't like that" nonsense. they're gone because they suck, not because Torts had a vendetta against them.
- anti-lame


Some will still blame Torts.

Tony D could put up points but is +/- was not good and he loved to be in the penalty box.

I don't think Hayes liked being called out by Torts and did the Quiet Quit thing. It jut seemed when January of 23 hit he just didn't seemed to be motivated
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 1 @ 3:32 PM ET
Despite being only 22, he has played 147 games averaging nearly 20 min/game so i don't think it's fair to say he hasn't played a lot of games. That's nearly 2900 minutes of ice time in the NHL.

Not saying he should be a finished project but he's been playing in the deep end for 4 years and the only reason he doesn't have more games played is his propensity for significant injuries. Not to mention he's been practicing against NHL dmen and coached by NHL coaches those 4 years. Also, the way ANH plays defense is different than the way PHI plays defense which probably has an impact but since systems don't matter that won't be mentioned.

- Flyers_01


I'm always a proponent not of age but of experience from games played. 147 NHL games is not a lot for a defensman. It's less than two full seasons. I have no doubt that the current Flyers coaching staff can teach Drysdale how to defend better but have zero faith that they can coach him in transition and offensive play. Which are really the biggest keys to a top defenseman
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 1 @ 3:33 PM ET
Some will still blame Torts.

Tony D could put up points but is +/- was not good and he loved to be in the penalty box.

I don't think Hayes liked being called out by Torts and did the Quiet Quit thing. It jut seemed when January of 23 hit he just didn't seemed to be motivated

- WhiskeyMan


Hayes in January is in the midst of a career offensive season. Then Tortorella gets a hard on for him and demoted him in ice time and down in lines. His production went south. That's quitting?
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