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Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.29.2015

Oct 7 @ 9:23 AM ET
You know what fans of bad teams do;

Debate over the the last Dman on the team to make or not make the NHL......................

- vabeachbear



Lol - ok - I gotta admit, that one was pretty good. I am sure we're going to need to use that one a few more times this season.

:D
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Oct 7 @ 9:30 AM ET
You know what fans of bad teams do;

Debate over the the last Dman on the team to make or not make the NHL......................

- vabeachbear


How about filling out the bottom of the roster when most of the current roster is bottom of the roster?

There are some classics available at the moment on waivers:

Adam Gaudette - He'd be great for about 6-10 games at 2C
The Drake - He's got to be about 70 now, no?
Josiah Slavin - A fan fav for sure
And finally.... Sebastian Aho (no not that one).
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Oct 7 @ 10:16 AM ET
How about filling out the bottom of the roster when most of the current roster is bottom of the roster?

There are some classics available at the moment on waivers:

Adam Gaudette - He'd be great for about 6-10 games at 2C
The Drake - He's got to be about 70 now, no?
Josiah Slavin - A fan fav for sure
And finally.... Sebastian Aho (no not that one).

- Chunk


One guy I would consider making a claim on if I was a GM looking for goalie depth is Brandon Bussi from Boston. I think he has been stuck behind the wealth of goaltending in Boston, but seems to be fairly consistent.
Ztra
Joined: 06.21.2018

Oct 7 @ 10:28 AM ET
Yea Chunk, you're right about a flood of solid players, or at least reasonably solid players, players caught in a numbers game that are all hitting waivers at relatively the same time.

If you're a bad club you can get better or find a given up upon 1st/2nd rounder from the waiver wire right now.

- Mr Ricochet

You are starting to sound like Stan Bowman. lol
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Oct 7 @ 10:45 AM ET
I know, I was using reverse pyschology early to see if it made a difference, and it did.

No, I don't mind that they drafted Williams over Daniels, they kind of needed to. It could be they both are very good.

People will always compare them, that's what happens when QBs go 1 and 2. The thing for me will always be if you're a Bears fan, you really have to look at it as Caleb vs. Daniels and 2 or 3 more additional 1sts, cause that's the story about what Washing ton was going to give up to get Caleb.

In the end, its too early to tell, but what would that trade for Bryce Young look like if you had made that trade, taken Daniels, and have an additional 3 first rounders over the next couple years.

- vabeachbear


If you could use that Jedi Mind Trick early and often in Packer games it will be greatly appreciated.

Williams will get compared to Daniels and agree both could end up being really good. Caleb will also likely get compared to both Stroud and Young because of the trade and the Bears opting to wait a year to go after a QB.

Interesting "What if?" In the end if the Bears are right about Williams I'm good with it even if the other guys are good or one or two are slightly better.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Oct 7 @ 11:00 AM ET
If you could use that Jedi Mind Trick early and often in Packer games it will be greatly appreciated.

Williams will get compared to Daniels and agree both could end up being really good. Caleb will also likely get compared to both Stroud and Young because of the trade and the Bears opting to wait a year to go after a QB.

Interesting "What if?" In the end if the Bears are right about Williams I'm good with it even if the other guys are good or one or two are slightly better.

- HawkintheD


You know a QB who can run a pro set no huddle offense in the NFL, I'll take all day.

But how about how Poles tore the defense down and built it back up? Gervon Dexter Sr is going to make many many many pocket QBs uncomfortable.

That's why I'm so excited about the Blackhawks rebuild, these 2 GMs essentially have done the samething and i know some of you don't agree but i see hockey and baseball very similar, hockey just takes a little longer to rebuild than football.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Oct 7 @ 11:12 AM ET
You know a QB who can run a pro set no huddle offense in the NFL, I'll take all day.

But how about how Poles tore the defense down and built it back up? Gervon Dexter Sr is going to make many many many pocket QBs uncomfortable.

That's why I'm so excited about the Blackhawks rebuild, these 2 GMs essentially have done the samething and i know some of you don't agree but i see hockey and baseball very similar, hockey just takes a little longer to rebuild than football.

- BetweenTheDots


So are you comparing hockey to football or baseball?

The problem with rebuilding in hockey is that you are drafting children, and the majority of guys are only playing about 1/3 of the game. You have to project out what kind of person they will be and get much further into the support or influences that he has around him. Not to mention it's really hard if you have any "passengers" on a line who don't really pull their weight. One guy breaks down and the whole thing implodes.

Then add in that luck has more influence in hockey than almost any other major sport and you have a lot of unknowns. I love that the Hawks have been aggressive in adding first round talent the last few years. I can only hope that they not only chose the proper players, but that they have the right people in place to help them all succeed.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Oct 7 @ 11:49 AM ET
So are you comparing hockey to football or baseball?

The problem with rebuilding in hockey is that you are drafting children, and the majority of guys are only playing about 1/3 of the game. You have to project out what kind of person they will be and get much further into the support or influences that he has around him. Not to mention it's really hard if you have any "passengers" on a line who don't really pull their weight. One guy breaks down and the whole thing implodes.

Then add in that luck has more influence in hockey than almost any other major sport and you have a lot of unknowns. I love that the Hawks have been aggressive in adding first round talent the last few years. I can only hope that they not only chose the proper players, but that they have the right people in place to help them all succeed.

- Chunk


I'm comparing it to baseball due to 18 year olds being drafted and the longer development time.

I think in everything you need some luck, but the key is creating your own luck, by one getting more draft picks,
the higher the better, by having a very very good scout tea, having a good development team and drafting guys who have a combination of passion and talent for the game.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Oct 7 @ 12:10 PM ET
I'm comparing it to baseball due to 18 year olds being drafted and the longer development time.

I think in everything you need some luck, but the key is creating your own luck, by one getting more draft picks,
the higher the better, by having a very very good scout tea, having a good development team and drafting guys who have a combination of passion and talent for the game.

- BetweenTheDots


Ah, gotcha. Wasn't following your reasoning.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Oct 7 @ 12:11 PM ET
Would be interesting what the Pittsburgh media says about their hope for Fields. But you are correct; wait and see how he does against tougher defense. AND I will just add.....whether he has stayed consistent or just average yet good enough to win. I doubt he was going to grow in Chicago. Remembering he needed work looking off passing targets as he received criticism how he had not improved hardly in this area since drafted
- jhawk59

All I care is Fields plays 50.00000000001% of their offensive snaps this year.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Oct 7 @ 12:17 PM ET
You know what fans of bad teams do;

Debate over the the last Dman on the team to make or not make the NHL......................

- vabeachbear

How else you gonna play it?
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Oct 7 @ 12:36 PM ET
You know a QB who can run a pro set no huddle offense in the NFL, I'll take all day.

But how about how Poles tore the defense down and built it back up? Gervon Dexter Sr is going to make many many many pocket QBs uncomfortable.

That's why I'm so excited about the Blackhawks rebuild, these 2 GMs essentially have done the samething and i know some of you don't agree but i see hockey and baseball very similar, hockey just takes a little longer to rebuild than football.

- BetweenTheDots


Ditto. The last two guys they chose never got to a level in 3 or 4 years that Williams is already showing in 5 games. Think this is going to be fun as the offense continues to grow together.

Dexter is sufficiently answering the questions about whether he could grow his game enough in his second season to be that disruptor on the interior D Line. Him, Billings and Sweat have all looked really good and they are getting solid contributions from Walker, Booker and Taylor.

breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Oct 7 @ 12:47 PM ET
Charlie Roumeliotis
@CRoumeliotis
Wyatt Kaiser is on the ice for practice, which is a great sign.
Isaak Phillips, who was placed on waivers Sunday, is not. #Blackhawks
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Oct 7 @ 12:48 PM ET
Charlie Roumeliotis
@CRoumeliotis
Wyatt Kaiser is on the ice for practice, which is a great sign.
Isaak Phillips, who was placed on waivers Sunday, is not. #Blackhawks

- breadbag


Charlie Roumeliotis
@CRoumeliotis
#Blackhawks power-play units:

PP1: Bedard, Teravainen, Hall (bumper), Bertuzzi (net front), Jones
PP2: Kurashev, Donato, Smith (bumper), Maroon (net front), Martinez
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Oct 7 @ 12:49 PM ET
Charlie Roumeliotis
@CRoumeliotis
#Blackhawks power-play units:

PP1: Bedard, Teravainen, Hall (bumper), Bertuzzi (net front), Jones
PP2: Kurashev, Donato, Smith (bumper), Maroon (net front), Martinez

- breadbag



Charlie Roumeliotis
@CRoumeliotis
#Blackhawks lineup at practice:
Mikheyev-Bedard-Teravainen
Hall-Kurashev-Bertuzzi
Foligno-Richardinson-Anderson
Maroon-Donato-Smith

Martinez-Jones
Vlasic-Brodie
Allan-Murphy

Mrazek
Soderblom

Extras: Athanasiou, Reichel, Kaiser (illness)
wizardofi
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
Joined: 04.17.2011

Oct 7 @ 12:49 PM ET
You know what fans of bad teams do;

Debate over the the last Dman on the team to make or not make the NHL......................

- vabeachbear



We debated the 5-6-7 defensemen and the 11-12-13 forwards during the cup runs. The more things change, the more they stay the same
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Oct 7 @ 12:51 PM ET
Charlie Roumeliotis
@CRoumeliotis
#Blackhawks power-play units:

PP1: Bedard, Teravainen, Hall (bumper), Bertuzzi (net front), Jones
PP2: Kurashev, Donato, Smith (bumper), Maroon (net front), Martinez

- breadbag


We must be the only team in NHL history that has a power play unit made up of the entire 4th line.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Oct 7 @ 1:03 PM ET
We must be the only team in NHL history that has a power play unit made up of the entire 4th line.
- LAHawk


Kinda strange they aren't giving Foligno and D!ckinson some run on the PP, no?
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Oct 7 @ 1:04 PM ET
Charlie Roumeliotis
@CRoumeliotis
#Blackhawks lineup at practice:
Mikheyev-Bedard-Teravainen
Hall-Kurashev-Bertuzzi
Foligno-Richardinson-Anderson
Maroon-Donato-Smith

Martinez-Jones
Vlasic-Brodie
Allan-Murphy

Mrazek
Soderblom

Extras: Athanasiou, Reichel, Kaiser (illness)

- breadbag


Wow, Mikheyev with Bedard wasn't on my bingo card, but it kinda makes sense. He's got wheels and is defensively responsible. No idea about his hands/skill though.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Oct 7 @ 1:05 PM ET
Kinda strange they aren't giving Foligno and D!ckinson some run on the PP, no?
- Chunk


Well Foligno and JD are probably PK 1, Maroon and Smith will never see ice time on the PK so maybe it is more spreading out the TOI?
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Oct 7 @ 1:17 PM ET
Well Foligno and JD are probably PK 1, Maroon and Smith will never see ice time on the PK so maybe it is more spreading out the TOI?
- LAHawk


Makes sense. This is certainly a far cry from the days when we all were lamenting the fact that the Hawks didn't have a strong enough 2C to play with Kane... while winning CUPS.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Oct 7 @ 1:22 PM ET
Charlie Roumeliotis
@CRoumeliotis
#Blackhawks power-play units:

PP1: Bedard, Teravainen, Hall (bumper), Bertuzzi (net front), Jones
PP2: Kurashev, Donato, Smith (bumper), Maroon (net front), Martinez

- breadbag

PP2 wouldn't scare a North Suburban High School team.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Oct 7 @ 1:54 PM ET
PP2 wouldn't scare a North Suburban High School team.

- rpeters01


But the South Suburban High School team would be quaking in their boots.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Oct 7 @ 2:05 PM ET
Wow, Mikheyev with Bedard wasn't on my bingo card, but it kinda makes sense. He's got wheels and is defensively responsible. No idea about his hands/skill though.
- Chunk


I thought it might happen, just because he is really good 2-way. I guess we'll see if it lasts.

I think last week LR also said he considers Mikhaeyev as a swiss army knife, he can fit in where they need him up and down the lines.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Oct 7 @ 2:12 PM ET
Charlie Roumeliotis
@CRoumeliotis
#Blackhawks lineup at practice:
Mikheyev-Bedard-Teravainen
Hall-Kurashev-Bertuzzi
Foligno-Richardinson-Anderson
Maroon-Donato-Smith

Martinez-Jones
Vlasic-Brodie
Allan-Murphy

Mrazek
Soderblom

Extras: Athanasiou, Reichel, Kaiser (illness)

- breadbag


You know if Reichel isn't going to play why is up with the parent club.

The more i think about Allan and how he plays defense he reminds me a lot of Esa Lindell. Very small sample size but curious to see him in action when the games count.
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