You know if Reichel isn't going to play why is up with the parent club.

The more i think about Allan and how he plays defense he reminds me a lot of Esa Lindell. Very small sample size but curious to see him in action when the games count.
- BetweenTheDots

Reichel is waiver eligible.

Not following you, LA. If the Hawks don't have another transaction coming and it's Phillips they want on the big club why did they expose him to waivers? He was put on waivers, right?

What am I missing?
- Mr Ricochet

When a player clears waivers and is sent down and then is called up again, he does not have to clear waivers to be sent down again for 30 days or 10 games. So this gives them more freedom to send him up and down in future.

Other thing I can think of is they want to claim one of the other guys being waived across the league and this gives them the roster flexibility to do so.

You know if Reichel isn't going to play why is up with the parent club.

The more i think about Allan and how he plays defense he reminds me a lot of Esa Lindell. Very small sample size but curious to see him in action when the games count.
- BetweenTheDots

Because he's past being a "prospect". He's moved to the prove-it portion of his career. He's been given plenty of time in the AHL. If he isn't going to be able to impose his game on the NHL, they need to/will cut bait. Before he does that, he needs to either beat out another guy on the roster, or wait for an injury/rest day from an older guy.

No more giving time just because. He knew exactly what they wanted him to improve over the summer. If he's not shown the coaches that improvement, they are under no requirement to give him ice time.

Phillips cleared,

Phillips cleared,
- LAHawk

Sounds like Allan will make his NHL debut during the trip as well. Kaiser is close, but maybe not quite ready yet.

Because he's past being a "prospect". He's moved to the prove-it portion of his career. He's been given plenty of time in the AHL. If he isn't going to be able to impose his game on the NHL, they need to/will cut bait. Before he does that, he needs to either beat out another guy on the roster, or wait for an injury/rest day from an older guy.

No more giving time just because. He knew exactly what they wanted him to improve over the summer. If he's not shown the coaches that improvement, they are under no requirement to give him ice time.
- Chunk

But how is he supposed to get better if he doesn't play?

But how is he supposed to get better if he doesn't play?
- BetweenTheDots

He should have thought about that during the pre-season games. Now he needs to bust his ass during practice or wait for an opportunity due to rest/injury to take a job. I'll say again, he knew exactly what the coaches wanted to see. He didn't show it in his opportunities. That's on him. They gave him every chance to take it, and he fell short.

Sounds like Allan will make his NHL debut during the trip as well. Kaiser is close, but maybe not quite ready yet.
- Chunk

Descent to good gambling puttting Phillips on waivers

I am willing to give him this year but he must show positive signs overcoming his weak points. He is close enough to NHL level using his experience and skill as the criteria for any TOI.

But now he has more competition from young kids alone to take a possible opening during the season. Both KD and Richardson probably will turn to someone else if Phillips gets in there and isn’t better than his previous stint(s)

Descent to good gambling puttting Phillips on waivers

I am willing to give him this year but he must show positive signs overcoming his weak points. He is close enough to NHL level using his experience and skill as the criteria for any TOI.

But now he has more competition from young kids alone to take a possible opening during the season. Both KD and Richardson probably will turn to someone else if Phillips gets in there and isn’t better than his previous stint(s)
- jhawk59

Well, he didn't beat out Kaiser and Allan for a spot. If they really thought he was good enough, they'd just send Allan down and keep him on the roster to start the year.

He's in Reichel territory now. He has to wait for his opportunity and hope he does something with it when it finally comes. Others have already passed him. It's not a maybe anymore.

I guess this is the issue you run into when you have so many young guys coming in at the same time. You have to make decisions on them before you really want to.

But how is he supposed to get better if he doesn't play?
- BetweenTheDots

Hes not going to get better

Bamford reports Phillips has cleared waivers.

Before the season starts I wanna mention which Hawk player surprised me, or was the most improved, this preseason........ Soderblom is my choice.

The guy was a near total mess in most every way the majority of NHL games last season. This yr he's been a much more efficient goalie that is letting the game come to him eliminating the total chaos anytime a puck came his way.

Hawks have a back to back with WPG and EDM Friday and Saturday so he should get a start and a chance to see if this holds up against a full NHL lineup. ....... Soderblom will be sent down once Broisset returns but solid play will help push Commesso and make the Hogs a better squad as a whole with a better Soderblom.

Good for this guy cuz he was really thrown to the wolves on a horrid NHL roster.

Hes not going to get better
- LFS

His needle is not pointing up.

Bamford reports Phillips has cleared waivers.

Before the season starts I wanna mention which Hawk player surprised me, or was the most improved, this preseason........ Soderblom is my choice.

The guy was a near total mess in most every way the majority of NHL games last season. This yr he's been a much more efficient goalie that is letting the game come to him eliminating the total chaos anytime a puck came his way.

Hawks have a back to back with WPG and EDM Friday and Saturday so he should get a start and a chance to see if this holds up against a full NHL lineup. ....... Soderblom will be sent down once Broisset returns but solid play will help push Commesso and make the Hogs a better squad as a whole with a better Soderblom.

Good for this guy cuz he was really thrown to the wolves on a horrid NHL roster.
- Mr Ricochet

For me last year Soderblom it was about composure (not over playing his positioning) and rebound control. I think if he can stop from over-committing and learn to just stop squirting out rebounds on the scramble around the net he will be better. The first goal against the other night vs St Louis was a prime example, he made the first stop, but then gave up the puck right to the St Louis forward hanging around the net, and they score. He seems good at making the initial stop most the time, but that rebound control has to be better this year. It burned him so many times last year.

You know if Reichel isn't going to play why is up with the parent club.
- BetweenTheDots

He would be lost on waivers, because he was a failing first rounder.

The more i think about Allan and how he plays defense he reminds me a lot of Esa Lindell. Very small sample size but curious to see him in action when the games count.
- BetweenTheDots

The Phillips move was less of a chance.

Sounds like Allan will make his NHL debut during the trip as well. Kaiser is close, but maybe not quite ready yet.
- Chunk

I like Allan's path. Kid showed enough in only 28 games his draft yr, 5 in the SJHL, 16 in the WHL and 7 with Canada's WJC-U18 club to be the last pick of rd 1 in 2021... It was written most places he was probably over drafted but with good size and solid skating kid showed some real traits.

Since then you didn't hear much outa him and he went to work playing 2 more yrs in jrs, made a U-20 WJC roster and last yr played his first season as a pro. He looked solid this preseason and it's him not Phillips or Crevier, who both played a good amount with the Hawks last yr, who gets the call to open the season with the Hawks. In fact, they exposed Phillips to waivers to give Allan an NHL shot.

Always good to see a kid who's earned a shot get one. Now, fingers crossed the kid won't allow them to ever send the 21 yr old back down.

I like Allan's path. Kid showed enough in only 28 games his draft yr, 5 in the SJHL, 16 in the WHL and 7 with Canada's WJC-U18 club to be the last pick of rd 1 in 2021... It was written most places he was probably over drafted but with good size and solid skating kid showed some real traits.

Since then you didn't hear much outa him and he went to work playing 2 more yrs in jrs, made a U-20 WJC roster and last yr played his first season as a pro. He looked solid this preseason and it's him not Phillips or Crevier, who both played a good amount with the Hawks last yr, who gets the call to open the season with the Hawks. In fact, they exposed Phillips to waivers to give Allan an NHL shot.

Always good to see a kid who's earned a shot get one. Now, fingers crossed the kid won't allow them to ever send the 21 yr old back down.
- Mr Ricochet

If I had to guess, the second that Kaiser can play, Allan will be sent back down and Phillips will be the #7

For me last year Soderblom it was about composure (not over playing his positioning) and rebound control. I think if he can stop from over-committing and learn to just stop squirting out rebounds on the scramble around the net he will be better. The first goal against the other night vs St Louis was a prime example, he made the first stop, but then gave up the puck right to the St Louis forward hanging around the net, and they score. He seems good at making the initial stop most the time, but that rebound control has to be better this year. It burned him so many times last year.
- breadbag

From my experience over committing is the result of the game being too fast for the goalie. He can't read or physically keep up with the speed so he pushes too early or too hard causing him to slide past where the puck/shot ends up or if he saves it he's all out to get there and is a mess making the save or being square to a rebound.

Vastly improved in that area this preseason. Even to the eye he moved around his crease with more poise than last yr and showed much more efficiency in his movements and saves and to me that usually shows the game is not too fast at that level for the player.

Can't stop pucks without it. Now you have some kinda foundation to be consistent.

That was a horrid STL squad he faced but faces a lotta NHLers v the Wings and looked pretty good both games.

He would be lost on waivers, because he was a failing first rounder.




The Phillips move was less of a chance.
- wiz1901

Wiz be safe down there here comes Milton unfortunately. Only a week removed from Helene.

Well, he didn't beat out Kaiser and Allan for a spot. If they really thought he was good enough, they'd just send Allan down and keep him on the roster to start the year.

He's in Reichel territory now. He has to wait for his opportunity and hope he does something with it when it finally comes. Others have already passed him. It's not a maybe anymore.

I guess this is the issue you run into when you have so many young guys coming in at the same time. You have to make decisions on them before you really want to.
- Chunk

This, sometimes the answers are just clear and what you see in front of you, is what is in front of you

If I had to guess, the second that Kaiser can play, Allan will be sent back down and Phillips will be the #7
- Chunk

Maybe not, curious to see what Allan looks like tomorrow night

Maybe not, curious to see what Allan looks like tomorrow night
- BetweenTheDots

Me too. I just think they want Allan playing as much as possible. If Kaiser is back, either Allan or Phillips is going to sit (most likely). I think they’ve made up their mind about Phillips. Allan can still benefit from playing more.

Me too. I just think they want Allan playing as much as possible. If Kaiser is back, either Allan or Phillips is going to sit (most likely). I think they’ve made up their mind about Phillips. Allan can still benefit from playing more.
- Chunk

I agree, I think Phillips will be the odd man out once Kaiser is healthy.

I wonder how long KK will stay in Rockford. If Allan and Kaiser play well KK might have to wait until the TDL.

I agree, I think Phillips will be the odd man out once Kaiser is healthy.

I wonder how long KK will stay in Rockford. If Allan and Kaiser play well KK might have to wait until the TDL.
- DarthKane

IMO Allen was better than any of the prospects that played in the preseason, so if he continues to play well, and Kaiser played like he did at the end of the season, we shouldn’t see KK unless and until a couple of injuries, and the TDL, but in reality, I only see Martinez (again if healthy) as a tradeable chip.

IMO Allen was better than any of the prospects that played in the preseason, so if he continues to play well, and Kaiser played like he did at the end of the season, we shouldn’t see KK unless and until a couple of injuries, and the TDL, but in reality, I only see Martinez (again if healthy) as a tradeable chip.
- LAHawk

I think if this preseason has shown us with the defense it's that anything can happen and that should continue. Very much like that on merit Allan jumped the line on Phillips, Crevier and we'll soon see if Kaiser is in that grouping.

The names matter less than the idea of come to the arena, work, accept coaching, develop, become consistent enough and you're gonna get NHL looks. That kinda fairness permeates an organIzation and everyone feels they'll be fairly evaluated.

1st rounders will always get the benefit of the doubt and be given more chances than a 3rd rounder but I very much like seeing how the defense has been allowed to shake out this preseason.

IMO Allen was better than any of the prospects that played in the preseason, so if he continues to play well, and Kaiser played like he did at the end of the season, we shouldn’t see KK unless and until a couple of injuries, and the TDL, but in reality, I only see Martinez (again if healthy) as a tradeable chip.
- LAHawk

And just remember last year, Richardson said of all the d prospects, he was impressed with Allan the most. IIRC, he said he looked like a NHL defenseman, so I was thinking he would make the cut this year from that.