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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 6 @ 9:22 AM ET
https://www.courierposton...he-shutdown-guy/25724761/

"I don't want to be known as only the shutdown guy like it's been for the past few years," Couturier said. "I want to take a step forward offensively and be one of the go-to guys when we're down a goal and need a goal or need some offense."
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"We're trying to make a bit of an excuse here that I'm using him in the defensive zone too much," Berube said. "He's got a job to do. That's what we need him to do for the team. For him to develop as a better player and a better offensive player, he's gotta learn how to produce, starting in that position."
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In the first month of the season, Couturier's defensive zone starts were more like 71 percent. He was very much being used in a defensive-first role.


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I'm not sure why this is even an argument. The Flyers used Coots as a cheat code on defense for half a decade, nevermind the rest of his game. The coaches actively ignored the offensive side of his game because he covered up the poor roster construction defensively and allowed the higher profile forwards to focus on offense and to take some pressure off of the usually poorly constructed defensive corps like when they tried to make Andrew McDonald and Luke Schenn top pair dmen.

He would occasionally be given a chance but circumstances would usually conspire against him early in his career. The Flyers chose team over developing the player because they were "all in" every year and that was the best way, in the short term, for Coots to help the team.

- Flyers_01

he's gotta learn how to produce, starting in that position." - I actually have no issue with the coach saying that.

team > individuals.....that isn't going to change. there are better ways to do it though they want to win now. despite the BS they spew.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 6 @ 9:24 AM ET
Why not give it shot and see what happens? Jett is not the 1st 18 year old to play in the NHL and he won't be the last. 3C is a perfect role for him if he is going to stay in the NHL, and he is playing with two good wingers. If he can't handle it after 9 or so games, he can always go back to Geulph. But why do we always assume the worst every single time the Flyers try something??
- jd250

because they are one of the worst run teams in all of sports. you really need to be tols this daily?

How is the 3rd line perfect for him? He didn't wow in camp or preseason. But hey he is in shape and can skate. Who are his wingers?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 6 @ 9:24 AM ET
You're not starting. You're continuing to post the same uninformed dumb poop that you always have.

- MJL

always with the trolling personal attacks.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 6 @ 9:27 AM ET
Starting early this season.
- jd250



So you are saying he isn't?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 6 @ 9:33 AM ET
Why not give it shot and see what happens? Jett is not the 1st 18 year old to play in the NHL and he won't be the last. 3C is a perfect role for him if he is going to stay in the NHL, and he is playing with two good wingers. If he can't handle it after 9 or so games, he can always go back to Geulph. But why do we always assume the worst every single time the Flyers try something??
- jd250
Are you new to this board? Didn't you know that the sky is falling on here every single day no matter what! I've mentioned a few times now that I truly believe that there would be whining and wimpering on here the day after the Flyers brought home the Cup!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 6 @ 9:35 AM ET
Are you new to this board? Didn't you know that the sky is falling on here every single day no matter what! I've mentioned a few times now that I truly believe that there would be whining and wimpering on here the day after the Flyers brought home the Cup!

- Phillywhiteout


You're part of the collection of posters that don't like when the truth is posted. You can't make an intelligent argument against the points made, so you post nonsense like the above.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 6 @ 9:37 AM ET
You're part of the collection of posters that don't like when the truth is posted. You can't make an intelligent argument against the points made, so you post nonsense like the above.
- MJL
I've made many points to counterbalance your crap! You just don't know how to read.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 6 @ 9:41 AM ET
Why not give it shot and see what happens? Jett is not the 1st 18 year old to play in the NHL and he won't be the last. 3C is a perfect role for him if he is going to stay in the NHL, and he is playing with two good wingers. If he can't handle it after 9 or so games, he can always go back to Geulph. But why do we always assume the worst every single time the Flyers try something??
- jd250



It’s Guelph….I’ve tolerated your spelling of it far too long. The insiders on Flyers are saying the general plan is to get him in for enough games with out burning the 1rst year of his ELC…they feel he’s EARNED it….imagine a guy earning something? Crazy…..but you know what Mike Tyson used to say about “everyone’s plan”.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 6 @ 9:42 AM ET
I've made many points to counterbalance your crap! You just don't know how to read.

- Phillywhiteout


No you haven't. The last two posts you made are representative of the level of your intelligence. You aren't smart enough to realize that the reason why people are frustrated is because they don't see any chance or progress being made to getting to the day after the the Flyers win the Cup. Yet you think they would "whine" after wining the Cup. That's how clueless you are.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 6 @ 9:42 AM ET
And kudos to the Flyers for trying something different this year to improve the Powerplay. Most on this forum complain day after day that the Flyers are an archaic franchise, doing the same thing over and over again. Well, here is an example where they are trying something different. They have a good group of former players with eyes on the PP and are meeting monthly to see how its going. I'm at least interested in seeing how this works out.
- jd250


It can’t get worse…why not ?🤷‍♂️
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 6 @ 9:44 AM ET
keystone cops.

the PP isnt a hard concept.

meetings every month is funny. why not every week. a competent organization wouldn't need a dozen people to "Figure" it out. wonder who brings the pastry?

- hello it's me 2050


How about a meeting when ever you need one….it’s like booking a time to have sex with your wife.
BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Norristown, PA
Joined: 01.19.2011

Oct 6 @ 9:46 AM ET
when are you going to comprehend, realize, and accept the coach/CO-GM runs the team at the nhl level?

the other CO-GM needs permission to make a trade. he is a putz.

- hello it's me 2050


Continuously repeating this nonsense isn't going to make it true.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Oct 6 @ 9:50 AM ET
Swayman, hope Igor takes full dollars from Rags, hope the contracts become an albatross.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 6 @ 9:51 AM ET
Continuously repeating this nonsense isn't going to make it true.
- BenderRodriguez


Putting blinders on and refusing to recognize the blatantly obvious isn't going to make it untrue.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 6 @ 9:51 AM ET
Continuously repeating this nonsense isn't going to make it true.
- BenderRodriguez

ok. change your user name to stevie wonder.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 6 @ 9:54 AM ET
How about a meeting when ever you need one….it’s like booking a time to have sex with your wife.
- landros 2

not only that things can go south really quick. no worries we have a meeting on the 30th to address.

the stuff this organization publicizes is funny. thinking they are on top of things. most eat it up, however.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 6 @ 9:55 AM ET
Putting blinders on and refusing to recognize the blatantly obvious isn't going to make it untrue.
- MJL


I honestly think it’s in the middle…I don’t think DB is a puppet…but I do think they are too influenced by Torts in certain decisions they make and certain guys they have chosen to keep.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 6 @ 9:56 AM ET
Swayman, hope Igor takes full dollars from Rags, hope the contracts become an albatross.
- wcorvette

this is all flyers fans have. hoping other teams fail. Go flyers.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 6 @ 10:01 AM ET
No you haven't. The last two posts you made are representative of the level of your intelligence. You aren't smart enough to realize that the reason why people are frustrated is because they don't see any chance or progress being made to getting to the day after the the Flyers win the Cup. Yet you think they would "whine" after wining the Cup. That's how clueless you are.
- MJL
Someone pee in your Cheerios this morning? You seem a trifle irked!
Why is it such a big deal that they kept Luchanko? Other than the fact that I was right and you were wrong. It cracks me up how some folks worry about player development. Give the kid a few games and see how he handles it. It's really not a big deal. Like it's gonna ruin him for the rest of his career and he will lose all confidence. That's a ridiculous take! Thanks!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 6 @ 10:05 AM ET
I honestly think it’s in the middle…I don’t think he’s DB is a puppet…but I do think they are too influenced by Torts in certain decisions they make and certain guys they have chosen to keep.
- landros 2


Everything this team does is influenced by Tortorella. He has Hilferty and Jones in his back pocket. Briere does not have the power to override it, so he is either complicit or unable to counter it. Comments from Briere suggest that he is complicit and is just another in a long line of executors of Flyers culture.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 6 @ 10:06 AM ET
Someone pee in your Cheerios this morning? You seem a trifle irked!
Why is it such a big deal that they kept Luchanko? Other than the fact that I was right and you were wrong. It cracks me up how some folks worry about player development. Give the kid a few games and see how he handles it. It's really not a big deal. Like it's gonna ruin him for the rest of his career and he will lose all confidence. That's a ridiculous take! Thanks!

- Phillywhiteout


What was I wrong about. We'll start there.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 6 @ 10:10 AM ET
What was I wrong about. We'll start there.
- MJL
I said that they would keep Luchanko for at least a trial and you said that they wouldn't.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 6 @ 10:11 AM ET
What was I wrong about. We'll start there.
- MJL

you said the jett had zero shot to make the team. public record.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 6 @ 10:14 AM ET
I said that they would keep Luchanko for at least a trial and you said that they wouldn't.
- Phillywhiteout


Is this representative of you counter balancing my crap. Like I've said previously. You make a fool of yourself every single day. I never stated whether they would or wouldn't keep Luchanko. Only offered my opinion on why they shouldn't. You are completely clueless.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 6 @ 10:30 AM ET
Is this representative of you counter balancing my crap. Like I've said previously. You make a fool of yourself every single day. I never stated whether they would or wouldn't keep Luchanko. Only offered my opinion on why they shouldn't. You are completely clueless.
- MJL

go to confession you liar. you said no chance to make the team.
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