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gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Oct 11 @ 10:34 AM ET
Yeah I’m really liking it as well, it’s why I can see Dewar moved or hopefully clearing if sent down. Obviously staying hot matters and no injuries… makes October an interesting month that’s for sure.

My biggest question is Jarnkrok (which could obviously change)… he’s essentially up against Robertson and Pacioretty at this point… do you sit Robertson? Or Pacioretty? Rotate all three? I’m truly curious how that will play out.

- Dozzer


I think Dewar is basically a younger slightly cheaper version of the Yarn Crook. Can line up all forward positions, has some jam, can skate, can play PK, etc.

I'd give the edge to Jarnkrok for being able to play up in the lineup, but that's just because I've seen it and it's been fine and haven't seen Dewar do the same thing.

I think one of the two needs to go.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 11 @ 10:38 AM ET
It was just so franking random, I was laughing my head off.

Yes, I realize I'm the king of random posts here.

- Atomic Wedgie


Oh sweet, my dumbass joke accomplished something for once! You made my day
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 11 @ 10:40 AM ET
I think Dewar is basically a younger slightly cheaper version of the Yarn Crook. Can line up all forward positions, has some jam, can skate, can play PK, etc.

I'd give the edge to Jarnkrok for being able to play up in the lineup, but that's just because I've seen it and it's been fine and haven't seen Dewar do the same thing.

I think one of the two needs to go.

- gravyface


Oh agree with what you’re saying but Jarnkrok started the season on the LTIR and has an injury history. I genuinely wonder what it would take to move him.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Oct 11 @ 10:40 AM ET
i put reaves into one of those tshirt cannons and fire him into the sun
- senstroll

soon but not yet
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Oct 11 @ 10:41 AM ET
Are you trying to believe that Liljegren isn’t on the trade block? He’s way overpriced for the role he’s even battling for. Nor is he nowhere near physical enough to play Berube’s game. It’s a guess I’ll admit but I’d honestly be surprised if the leafs don’t move him. At $3 mill he’s in the 2nd pairing pay amounts.
- Dozzer


No it's that I think there's more than one option. Maybe they still think he could be something and want the depth for whatever reason.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 11 @ 10:42 AM ET
It was just so franking random, I was laughing my head off.

Yes, I realize I'm the king of random posts here.

- Atomic Wedgie


It's the weave, Wedgie. Only a precious few can do the weave.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Oct 11 @ 10:42 AM ET
I'd like you to sit and rotate on my...
- gravyface

so you want a trip around the world eh
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Oct 11 @ 10:45 AM ET
The leafs are 0-6 so far on the PP
They have been on the PK 10 times

not a good ratio PP/PK

only 2 games. but yeah

- senstroll

Leafs got IMO BS calls against them last night.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Oct 11 @ 10:47 AM ET
No it's that I think there's more than one option. Maybe they still think he could be something and want the depth for whatever reason.
- Aaron_85


I get it, but the leafs are a very cap tight team. Can they afford $3 million a year for depth?

I don’t mind Liljegren, but his role at his price combined is ugly.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Oct 11 @ 10:48 AM ET
I get it, but the leafs are a very cap tight team. Can they afford $3 million a year for depth?

I don’t mind Liljegren, but his role at his price combined is ugly.

- Dozzer


It sure is ugly but it's above our pay grade to make those decisions


I also don't understand why they haven't moved him yet if they have no interest in playing him outside of injury. /shrug
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Oct 11 @ 10:48 AM ET
He's already 6 goals behind last year's pace.

Is it too early to start talking about trading him for spare parts?

Do you think we could get a 3rd rounder for him?

- Atomic Wedgie

His contract is too large to move. We'd have to include at least a second.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 08.30.2006

Oct 11 @ 10:51 AM ET
A little early to be smoking drugs, no?
- Atomic Wedgie

via GIPHY

Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Oct 11 @ 10:53 AM ET
It sure is ugly but it's above our pay grade to make those decisions


I also don't understand why they haven't moved him yet if they have no interest in playing him outside of injury. /shrug

- Aaron_85


Because nobody is offering what Tre thinks he’s worth is my guess. So they’ll hold on until at least the end of October and see if a team gets an injured PMD they desperately want to replace. It’s a guess but it’s where I think the leafs stand with him.
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 07.04.2006

Oct 11 @ 10:53 AM ET
I get it, but the leafs are a very cap tight team. Can they afford $3 million a year for depth?

I don’t mind Liljegren, but his role at his price combined is ugly.

- Dozzer

Literally, something HAS to happen with Hak and Dewar coming back eventually. Lilly, Dewar, or Jarny are the most likely guys, but who knows what Tre is cookin.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Oct 11 @ 10:58 AM ET
so you want a trip around the world eh
- dmnted


All aboard the Zezel Express
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 11 @ 10:59 AM ET
All aboard the Zezel Express
- gravyface


This train enters the tunnel and then reverses and enters again repeatedly
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Oct 11 @ 10:59 AM ET
Literally, something HAS to happen with Hak and Dewar coming back eventually. Lilly, Dewar, or Jarny are the most likely guys, but who knows what Tre is cookin.
- Whipper


I love this lineup right now, but we need some insurance/depth, different looks.

Do we let Reaves go? He looks good when he hockeys, but will he do that consistently?
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Oct 11 @ 11:00 AM ET
Because nobody is offering what Tre thinks he’s worth is my guess. So they’ll hold on until at least the end of October and see if a team gets an injured PMD they desperately want to replace. It’s a guess but it’s where I think the leafs stand with him.
- Dozzer

It's kind of a weird situation, if you were really trying to trade him, wouldn't you be playing him? Hard to get any value for a $3M guy who isn't even good enough to crack your lineup. I think it was you that mentioned, maybe they're showcasing Timmins to move him. I don't love that, I like the way he plays. Not perfect, but moves the puck well and is cheap. Want to see him get a real good look this year.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who's the real Randy?, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 11 @ 11:02 AM ET
Give Lorentz the C already
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 07.04.2006

Oct 11 @ 11:03 AM ET
I love this lineup right now, but we need some insurance/depth, different looks.

Do we let Reaves go? He looks good when he hockeys, but will he do that consistently?

- gravyface

Yup. I haven't felt this good about a Leaf roster in as long as I can remember. No glaring holes, and a LOT of players with ridiculously high ceilings, (Stollarz, Robertson, Patches, Hildebeast, etc).
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 11 @ 11:03 AM ET
I love this lineup right now, but we need some insurance/depth, different looks.

Do we let Reaves go? He looks good when he hockeys, but will he do that consistently?

- gravyface

Once again, I must ask:

Isn't it a little early to be smoking drugs?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 11 @ 11:03 AM ET
Literally, something HAS to happen with Hak and Dewar coming back eventually. Lilly, Dewar, or Jarny are the most likely guys, but who knows what Tre is cookin.
- Whipper


To be fair I’m still not entirely sold Hakanpaa gets back. Hence why the contract was shortened, etc. The leafs are a team who can afford to keep him on LTIR easily if he never reaches NHL skill again. Essentially it’s a non cap hit gamble Rogers can more than afford.

But like you said, we’ll see in the future because who knows?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
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Oct 11 @ 11:07 AM ET
It's kind of a weird situation, if you were really trying to trade him, wouldn't you be playing him? Hard to get any value for a $3M guy who isn't even good enough to crack your lineup. I think it was you that mentioned, maybe they're showcasing Timmins to move him. I don't love that, I like the way he plays. Not perfect, but moves the puck well and is cheap. Want to see him get a real good look this year.
- Whipper


I think this is a desperate argument tbh. Maybe they are trying to move Timmins but if Liljegren was the meant to be 6th/7th guy he’s still overpaid and he would have at least gotten to play in the season opener if that didn’t matter.

Liljegren simply isn’t a Tre/Berube style D man either. They like them big, physical, and never the type to gamble defence on an offensive chance.

As I said that is what it seems like so far, but it’s a guess on my part all the way.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 11 @ 11:07 AM ET
To be fair I’m still not entirely sold Hakanpaa gets back. Hence why the contract was shortened, etc. The leafs are a team who can afford to keep him on LTIR easily if he never reaches NHL skill again. Essentially it’s a non cap hit gamble Rogers can more than afford.

But like you said, we’ll see in the future because who knows?

- Dozzer

He's skating with the team, so my guess is they'll activate him in November.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 11 @ 11:09 AM ET
I love this lineup right now, but we need some insurance/depth, different looks.

Do we let Reaves go? He looks good when he hockeys, but will he do that consistently?

- gravyface


No, he will not hockey consistently. Unless you mean being on the ice wearing a hockey uniform while the other teams shoots the puck into our net. In that sense, he will hockey consistently.
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