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Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 11 @ 6:06 PM ET
Nucks coming in as a -194 favorite. Guess the bookies aren't liking the Flyguys in this one. I would have felt more comfortable if the Nucks would have won comfortably the other night rather than blowing a lead. I think they are taking a step back this year though. Tocchet gets old quick and this team overachieved last year.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Oct 11 @ 6:06 PM ET
I’ve been one of maybe two or three people who haven’t picked a fight you before on this site. Frankly, I’ve agreed with you plenty of times. More often than not, honestly. But hey, I was just chillin out and trying to look for a little bright spot, and you act like I’m some sort of jerk that tries to make you miserable on a daily basis around here. Of which there seems to be dozens, by the way.

I didn’t care for it, and so I called you out. Is what it is. Tomorrow is another day.

I might not be feeling so cheery around 1am, we’ll see. Vancouver is a nice team, and awfully far away.

Try to smile, pumpkin. Puck drops at 10

- Hesh_

I know this isn’t directed at me but keep this in mind.

Unless you go out of your way to get really, really personal. I can’t differ one poster from the next. In my opinion an argument on here is an argument no matter who is apart of it. Chances are (unless you get really personal) there is a good chance I’m gonna forget about you.

This place isn’t “local”. This isn’t like hanging at the bar with the boys. It’s easy mix most of you up. This isn’t even real life no matter how bad you guys believe it to be.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 11 @ 6:08 PM ET
Getting my goat.


I've told you before, the only reason I interact with you is for the sheer entertainment.

- MJL
Right! And you have swamp land in south Florida to sell me too.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 11 @ 6:09 PM ET
I’ve been one of maybe two or three people who haven’t picked a fight you before on this site. Frankly, I’ve agreed with you plenty of times. More often than not, honestly. But hey, I was just chillin out and trying to look for a little bright spot, and you act like I’m some sort of jerk that tries to make you miserable on a daily basis around here. Of which there seems to be dozens, by the way.

I didn’t care for it, and so I called you out. Is what it is. Tomorrow is another day.

I might not be feeling so cheery around 1am, we’ll see. Vancouver is a nice team, and awfully far away.

Try to smile, pumpkin. Puck drops at 10

- Hesh_


I guess that's how were different. I don't see it as a fight. I saw it as a conversation. I did no such thing. I simply pointed out what I saw as the flaws in your viewpoint.

I fail to see the logic of those who think that those who are critical of the team, are miserable. That's not common sense. That a fan who has invested in the team, doesn't have every right to be critical and point out the issues.

It seems to me that most of the jolly happy Flyers fans can't show how those who are critical of the team are wrong. So they just label them as misrable

Like I said, I didn't view it as a fight but if you keep coming back with condescending nonsense such as "try to smile, pumpkin" I might.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 11 @ 6:11 PM ET
Right! And you have swamp land in south Florida to sell me too.

- Phillywhiteout


Dude, I could dismiss you and turn you off in a heartbeat and ignore you as if you never existed. You couldn't possibly get at me.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Oct 11 @ 6:12 PM ET
I know this isn’t directed at me but keep this in mind.

Unless you go out of your way to get really, really personal. I can’t differ one poster from the next. In my opinion an argument on here is an argument no matter who is apart of it. Chances are (unless you get really personal) there is a good chance I’m gonna forget about you.

This place isn’t “local”. This isn’t like hanging at the bar with the boys. It’s easy mix most of you up.

- roenick97
wasn’t at you or anyone in particular

Frankly aside from a few characters, I can’t tell one from another half the time.

I fly in for a bit, and then I disappear. It’s not that important.

Don’t feel targeted, bud
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Oct 11 @ 6:16 PM ET
I guess that's how were different. I don't see it as a fight. I saw it as a conversation. I did no such thing. I simply pointed out what I saw as the flaws in your viewpoint.

I fail to see the logic of those who think that those who are critical of the team, are miserable. That's not common sense. That a fan who has invested in the team, doesn't have every right to be critical and point out the issues.

It seems to me that most of the jolly happy Flyers fans can't show how those who are critical of the team are wrong. So they just label them as misrable

Like I said, I didn't view it as a fight but if you keep coming back with condescending nonsense such as "try to smile, pumpkin" I might.

- MJL

The pumpkin remark was supposed to be light.

That whole last post was a “let’s forget about it. No worries post.”

So in case it was too shrouded prior -
let’s forget about it. No worries.

I was also just playin with you a little. Gettin descriptive about stoop scrapes and hot plates. I mean, cmon.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 11 @ 6:21 PM ET
The pumpkin remark was supposed to be light.

That whole last post was a “let’s forget about it. No worries post.”

So in case it was too shrouded prior -
let’s forget about it. No worries.

I was also just playin with you a little. Gettin descriptive about stoop scrapes and hot plates. I mean, cmon.

- Hesh_


I'm not offended by you. Which is why I said I didn't view it as a fight. I think debate and disagreement is healthy. We want the same thing. I just think some are misguided on what is happening or on how and what needs to happen.

So, in order to move the conversation along, I'll offer this. The Flyers undoubtedly feel that they are the tail end of their rebuild and it will soon be "go" time. When in reality, the addition of Michkov and possibly Lunchanko, is really just the beginning of it.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Oct 11 @ 6:22 PM ET
I guess that's how were different. I don't see it as a fight. I saw it as a conversation. I did no such thing. I simply pointed out what I saw as the flaws in your viewpoint.

I fail to see the logic of those who think that those who are critical of the team, are miserable. That's not common sense. That a fan who has invested in the team, doesn't have every right to be critical and point out the issues.

It seems to me that most of the jolly happy Flyers fans can't show how those who are critical of the team are wrong. So they just label them as misrable

Like I said, I didn't view it as a fight but if you keep coming back with condescending nonsense such as "try to smile, pumpkin" I might.

- MJL


I called someone else puddin’ earlier, too. Can’t remember who. Figured you could see I was joking then, as well.

It’s always funny to see how people react to stuff like that. Usually they’re used to swears, slander, and homophobic slurs.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Oct 11 @ 6:26 PM ET
Nucks coming in as a -194 favorite. Guess the bookies aren't liking the Flyguys in this one. I would have felt more comfortable if the Nucks would have won comfortably the other night rather than blowing a lead. I think they are taking a step back this year though. Tocchet gets old quick and this team overachieved last year.
- Phillywhiteout


They shouldn’t. It’s a tough start to the season.

JT Miller might be the biggest star nobody talks about, by the way.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Oct 11 @ 6:37 PM ET
I'm not offended by you. Which is why I said I didn't view it as a fight. I think debate and disagreement is healthy. We want the same thing. I just think some are misguided on what is happening or on how and what needs to happen.

So, in order to move the conversation along, I'll offer this. The Flyers undoubtedly feel that they are the tail end of their rebuild and it will soon be "go" time. When in reality, the addition of Michkov and possibly Lunchanko, is really just the beginning of it.

- MJL

So why do they keep making a point of telling fans that it’s going to take a while?
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Oct 11 @ 6:45 PM ET
So why do they keep making a point of telling fans that it’s going to take a while?
- Dkos



If you believe what they say, 2 years
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 11 @ 6:45 PM ET
So why do they keep making a point of telling fans that it’s going to take a while?
- Dkos


Because they currently don't have any cap flexibility or cap space to do what they want to do. That's all this is, is a pause. It's not a rebuild, it's a pause until they get more cap space.

They added a few draft picks, got a player with elite talent in Michkov. Now all they need is some cap space so they can make some trades and sign some players. It will be Fletcher and the past, all over again.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 11 @ 6:50 PM ET
Depend on what you mean by elite. Does a guy who has scored 41 and 39 goals, or 91 points count as elite? Maybe, but it certainly qualifies as a legitimate #1 center. Add in Panarin, who IS elite, Fox, and perhaps the best goalie in the league and you can see where Im going with this.


Or how about a guy who has scored 38, 37, 36 and 36 goals in the last 5 seasons? Is that considered elite. Again depends on what you say is elite.

Boston HAD an elite center for a long time. Now they are on the decline IMO as that center has not been replaced. Though maybe Lindholm is that guy now.

- MBFlyerfan


Pasta, McAvoy and Marchand... whether any of them are a center or not is really besides the point. They're all elite players and that's what MJL was alluding to. All legit contenders have multiple elite players.

Flyers need much more than just Michkov if they hope to compete -- assuming he even turns out to be elite.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 11 @ 6:52 PM ET
Because they currently don't have any cap flexibility or cap space to do what they want to do. That's all this is, is a pause. It's not a rebuild, it's a pause until they get more cap space.

They added a few draft picks, got a player with elite talent in Michkov. Now all they need is some cap space so they can make some trades and sign some players. It will be Fletcher and the past, all over again.

- MJL


Jones said again recently that they're stuck between "guardrails" until the cap clears up in 2-years, then they can get back to the business of signing UFAs.

roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Oct 11 @ 8:07 PM ET
Pasta, McAvoy and Marchand... whether any of them are a center or not is really besides the point. They're all elite players and that's what MJL was alluding to. All legit contenders have multiple elite players.

Flyers need much more than just Michkov if they hope to compete -- assuming he even turns out to be elite.

- Tomahawk

We definitely need Michkov to be the real deal. I think the overwhelming majority believe but we still have to let his legacy play out.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 11 @ 8:09 PM ET
Dude, I could dismiss you and turn you off in a heartbeat and ignore you as if you never existed. You couldn't possibly get at me.

- MJL
Ummm... just a hint. Anyone could do that to anyone else on here. In fact, I've already dismissed a few on here. You aren't special. I really hate to break that news to you. Go Flyers!!!!!!!
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 11 @ 8:17 PM ET
Man. We really need the reg season games to start so we can start talking hockey.. yikes.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 11 @ 8:25 PM ET
Ummm... just a hint. Anyone could do that to anyone else on here. In fact, I've already dismissed a few on here. You aren't special. I really hate to break that news to you. Go Flyers!!!!!!!
- Phillywhiteout


I never once thought I was special over anyone else on here. I'm just letting you know that you can't get at me. It's strictly for the laughs with you and I appreciate it.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Oct 11 @ 9:01 PM ET
Man. We really need the reg season games to start so we can start talking hockey.. yikes.
- Hextall271

If there is an argument to be had, hockey or not, no matter how stupid, it will be found here. Michkov is gonna look pretty lost tonight playing his off wing. He probably won’t even know where the net is.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Oct 11 @ 9:23 PM ET
How bout my yeti. Anyone catch that amazing game last night? So exciting. So glad to be a fan of a real organization
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 11 @ 9:25 PM ET
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 11 @ 9:37 PM ET
How bout my yeti. Anyone catch that amazing game last night? So exciting. So glad to be a fan of a real organization
- Stayin alive


Congrats. They look like a great team to cheer for.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 11 @ 9:56 PM ET
Let‘s go Flyers!
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Oct 11 @ 10:05 PM ET
Congrats. They look like a great team to cheer for.
- Hextall271

Well now that they are out of poophole arizona
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