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Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 13 @ 6:17 PM ET
Weeks was the last I heard.
Best guess would be...

Benson - Tage - Tuch
JJP - Cozens - Quinn
Zucker - McLeod - Kulich
Beck/Lafferty - Krebs - Greenway

JJP should be back Wed. Last I heard was Saturday was his last day in Concussion Protocol.
Krebs on 1LW until Benson is back, Lafferty at 4C

- IonSabres


We'll see, that just doesn't work as a defensive 3rd line and their current line has been one of their best lines.

Love it or hate it, if Kulich can't play in the top 6, he probably just goes down.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 13 @ 6:28 PM ET
We'll see, that just doesn't work as a defensive 3rd line and their current line has been one of their best lines.

Love it or hate it, if Kulich can't play in the top 6, he probably just goes down.

- Lunaion


Seems like a lock that the top 2 scoring lines are Benson - Tage - Tuch and Peterka - Cozens - Quinn, when healthy.

Question is how often the when healthy will be.

Beyond this season, with none of the 6 above likely going anywhere, where is the opening for Kulich?

I don't think they have enough top 2 line scoring to have an all defensive 3rd line.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 13 @ 6:35 PM ET
Seems like a lock that the top 2 scoring lines are Benson - Tage - Tuch and Peterka - Cozens - Quinn, when healthy.

Question is how often the when healthy will be.

Beyond this season, with none of the 6 above likely going anywhere, where is the opening for Kulich?

I don't think they have enough top 2 line scoring to have an all defensive 3rd line.

- kingcong39

Why I wouldn't mind seeing Kulich on the 3rd line, or even Quinn. Got to many Forwards especially if Kulich keeps playing well.
Edit: To many middle-Bottom 6 players
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 13 @ 6:40 PM ET
Why I wouldn't mind seeing Kulich on the 3rd line, or even Quinn. Got to many Forwards especially if Kulich keeps playing well.
Edit: To many middle-Bottom 6 players

- Buff36


The glaring needs seem to be consistent, true top line talent and a better mix on defense.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 13 @ 6:44 PM ET
Detroit putting a Whooping on Dallas
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 13 @ 6:45 PM ET
The glaring needs seem to be consistent, true top line talent and a better mix on defense.
- kingcong39

How long has that conversation been happening here ?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 13 @ 6:50 PM ET
We'll see, that just doesn't work as a defensive 3rd line and their current line has been one of their best lines.

Love it or hate it, if Kulich can't play in the top 6, he probably just goes down.

- Lunaion


I heard Kulich played well on both sides of the puck, and he adds the threat of scoring.
Personally, I'd like to see it.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 13 @ 6:50 PM ET
Seems like a lock that the top 2 scoring lines are Benson - Tage - Tuch and Peterka - Cozens - Quinn, when healthy.

Question is how often the when healthy will be.

Beyond this season, with none of the 6 above likely going anywhere, where is the opening for Kulich?

I don't think they have enough top 2 line scoring to have an all defensive 3rd line.

- kingcong39


Feels like that's what they are building. Traditional checking line + defensive 3rd line.

I don't know. The pieces have never fit. Not just Kulich. Ostlund, Rosen, and now Helenius too. Group has been screaming for a package trade for years, not Savoie for a bottom 6 C.

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 13 @ 6:51 PM ET
I heard Kulich played well on both sides of the puck, and he adds the threat of scoring.
Personally, I'd like to see it.

- IonSabres


IMO, that's graded on a curve. Better than Olofsson, but not someone you want to matchup against a top line either.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 13 @ 6:59 PM ET
IMO, that's graded on a curve. Better than Olofsson, but not someone you want to matchup against a top line either.
- Lunaion


There is zero curve necessary to grade defensive play like this.

>>> Jiri Kulich can stay

https://x.com/TheCharging...d_bi875CcZiEcDBm1yew&s=19
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 13 @ 7:01 PM ET
Feels like that's what they are building. Traditional checking line + defensive 3rd line.

I don't know. The pieces have never fit. Not just Kulich. Ostlund, Rosen, and now Helenius too. Group has been screaming for a package trade for years, not Savoie for a bottom 6 C.

- Lunaion


They've drafted and built like they know they don't have a true top level 1st line, so they're looking for scoring from at least their entire top 9, and maybe their 4th line as well.

Then the past offseason happened and their lineup construction approach completely changed to an over reliance on their 2 top lines with their forward prospects not seemingly fitting with the new approach.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 13 @ 7:04 PM ET
They've drafted and built like they know they don't have a true top level 1st line, so they're looking for scoring from at least their entire top 9, and maybe their 4th line as well.

Then the past offseason happened and their lineup construction approach completely changed to an over reliance on their 2 top lines with their forward prospects not seemingly fitting with the new approach.

- kingcong39

Could turn into a bunch of wasted draft years if Adams doesn't watch out.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 13 @ 7:06 PM ET
Could turn into a bunch of wasted draft years if Adams doesn't watch out.
- Buff36


I don't see a problem with a 3rd line of Greenway, McLeod and Kulich.

I also have no idea if Zucker is any good defensively.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 13 @ 7:08 PM ET
I don't see a problem with a 3rd line of Greenway, McLeod and Kulich.

I also have no idea if Zucker is any good defensively.

- kingcong39

Agreed! And I think Zucker was a waste of 5 mill
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 13 @ 7:09 PM ET
There is zero curve necessary to grade defensive play like this.

>>> Jiri Kulich can stay

https://x.com/TheCharging...d_bi875CcZiEcDBm1yew&s=19

- kingcong39


If he does, I expect an attempt to keep the 3rd line strong defensively. That likely means Greenway.

May never matter. 12 healthy forwards hasn't happened yet.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 13 @ 7:10 PM ET
If he does, I expect an attempt to keep the 3rd line strong defensively. That likely means Greenway.

May never matter. 12 healthy forwards hasn't happened yet.

- Lunaion


No problem with Greenway if he continues to play this way.

Have no tie or much care about Zucker.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 13 @ 7:27 PM ET
No problem with Greenway if he continues to play this way.

Have no tie or much care about Zucker.

- kingcong39


He's a strange fit. Not really seeing it with him, but it's 4 games in. The line has been solid and I'd be a bit surprised to Lindy touch it.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 13 @ 8:08 PM ET
Benson Tage Tuch
JJ Cozens Quinn/Kulich
Greenway McLeod Kulich/Quinn
Zucker Krebs Lafferty/Beck
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 13 @ 8:13 PM ET
No problem with Greenway if he continues to play this way.

Have no tie or much care about Zucker.

- kingcong39


Consistency of playing impactful games has not been his trademark.

If he helps L3 play well here, fabulous...I'll take it...just bring it every game. At 6'6"" and 230#, he should be a GD beast every night.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 13 @ 8:15 PM ET
He's a strange fit. Not really seeing it with him, but it's 4 games in. The line has been solid and I'd be a bit surprised to Lindy touch it.
- Lunaion


I thought Zuckers been one of the most reliable players so far. Production hasn't been there but he's getting chances and playing well.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 13 @ 8:17 PM ET
I heard Kulich played well on both sides of the puck, and he adds the threat of scoring.
Personally, I'd like to see it.

- IonSabres


Lindy talking about him after the game sounded like he's sticking around.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 13 @ 8:19 PM ET
Consistency of playing impactful games has not been his trademark.

If he helps L3 play well here, fabulous...I'll take it...just bring it every game. At 6'6"" and 230#, he should be a GD beast every night.

- IonSabres


Lindy got the team averaging the most hits per game through 4 I believe. I think he's bringing out what we've been asking for
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 13 @ 8:31 PM ET
Lindy got the team averaging the most hits per game through 4 I believe. I think he's bringing out what we've been asking for
- DirtyDan


I still fear their ultimate downfall will be due to not enough scoring.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 13 @ 8:42 PM ET
I still fear their ultimate downfall will be due to not enough scoring.
- kingcong39


Doesn't feel like they are built to win low scoring games either.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 13 @ 9:36 PM ET
Consistency of playing impactful games has not been his trademark.

If he helps L3 play well here, fabulous...I'll take it...just bring it every game. At 6'6"" and 230#, he should be a GD beast every night.

- IonSabres

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