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picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 17 @ 3:24 PM ET
I really think this is what we are going to see in price points. Every jump of the CAP, salary years for players will jump with it.
50-60 pt players are making 7-8 million now. A solid scoring 2nd line may cost 20+ million off the cap.

- NYRCeph


That’s why we need guys like Othmann and Perreault in the top 9
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 17 @ 3:26 PM ET
this tracks with most of the moves you've suggested on here
- Mtlca66

Just the point I’m making is how important he is to this teams success. They’re not contenders without him. So it’s kind of silly if Drury is playing hardball is ultimately what I’m saying. Just pay him and move on to laf. They’re the two must signs moving forward and worry about any cap issues later

Once he does get this payday, the pressure on him will be like nothing we’ve ever seen on a single NY Ranger player. Not even Messier would’ve had this pressure
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 17 @ 3:31 PM ET
That’s why we need guys like Othmann and Perreault in the top 9
- picklerick

I gotta feeling othmann will get traded at the TDL. Never really thought that would happen til he didn’t make opening night. Just seems like he’s taken a step back now. Hope I’m wrong
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 17 @ 3:41 PM ET
I gotta feeling othmann will get traded at the TDL. Never really thought that would happen til he didn’t make opening night. Just seems like he’s taken a step back now. Hope I’m wrong
- Slimtj100


There’s no spot for him without an injury or kakko trade. So here’s my proposal instead

Mika
Kakko
Othmann
1st
1st


For

Elias Petterson


NMC be damned

SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Oct 17 @ 3:46 PM ET
Thats part of the argument. I know the rangers have to and will pay him, but why does he think he is worth $2-$4m more than the next player? I guess leverage and UFA status.
- nyrangers2

Because he's been that much better, especially in the playoffs.

In the last 3 seasons, Igor has 40.5 goals saved above expected in the playoffs in 43 games. Meaning that an average NHL goalie would give up roughly a full extra goal PER GAME in the playoffs than Igor has for us.

The next closest is Bob at 30 GSAx in 53 games.

Over the last 3 years when the games mean the most, Igor has been head and shoulders above his competition and above anybody else on the team in terms of overall contributions.

How you quantify that into $2-4M more than his counterparts, I'm not sure. But he shouldn't be paid all that close to what those other guys are making, because their play isn't all that close to what Igor has delivered for this team time and time again.

As a fan I hope they can lock him up for as little as possible, but there is no doubt in my mind he is worth what he is asking for
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Oct 17 @ 3:49 PM ET
Because he's been that much better, especially in the playoffs.

In the last 3 seasons, Igor has 40.5 goals saved above expected in the playoffs in 43 games. Meaning that an average NHL goalie would give up roughly a full extra goal PER GAME in the playoffs than Igor has for us.

The next closest is Bob at 30 GSAx in 53 games.

Over the last 3 years when the games mean the most, Igor has been head and shoulders above his competition and above anybody else on the team in terms of overall contributions.

How you quantify that into $2-4M more than his counterparts, I'm not sure. But he shouldn't be paid all that close to what those other guys are making, because their play isn't all that close to what Igor has delivered for this team time and time again.

As a fan I hope they can lock him up for as little as possible, but there is no doubt in my mind he is worth what he is asking for

- SkjeiStadium


Hard to quantify what he’s worth. He’s had best post seasons then most of his regular seasons. Not saying they are bad regular seasons but goalies being paid less have won more vezinas than him. At this point it’s not even about what he’s worth. It’s debatable but the team needs him to win so he probably holds the leverage there
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Oct 17 @ 3:55 PM ET
Hard to quantify what he’s worth. He’s had best post seasons then most of his regular seasons. Not saying they are bad regular seasons but goalies being paid less have won more vezinas than him. At this point it’s not even about what he’s worth. It’s debatable but the team needs him to win so he probably holds the leverage there
- nyrangers2

Well there are only 2 active goalies in the NHL with multiple vezinas, so there can only be 2 that have more than him. Hellebuyck and Bob. Bob won in 13 and 17 so not all that recent, and coming off that 2nd one he signed his $10M deal. He's got his cup but from the numbers in my last post, has not been close to as good in the playoffs as Igor.

Hellebuyck only had 1 when he signed his deal, and won his 2nd last year after his deal was signed. He then followed up his Vezina season last year by getting shelled in the playoffs vs the Avs.

At the end of the day the rangers want to compete for a cup and the contract they give Igor will be representative of what he does in the playoffs, not in the regular season, even though his regular seasons have been at the top of the league as well
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Oct 17 @ 5:05 PM ET
Whatever.

...Game day, bitches!!!!
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 17 @ 7:58 PM ET
Whatever.

...Game day, bitches!!!!

- Tonybere


Weird start. That goal was great
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 17 @ 8:12 PM ET
This is why you don’t want avg goalies
t-dawg
New York Rangers
Joined: 06.24.2022

Oct 17 @ 8:30 PM ET
Weeks saying at intermission he thinks Shesty gets done for less than 12.
MeltingPlastic
New York Rangers
Location: outside philthadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.17.2007

Oct 17 @ 8:38 PM ET
Anyone else's stream garbage on Hulu?
MeltingPlastic
New York Rangers
Location: outside philthadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.17.2007

Oct 17 @ 8:53 PM ET
Awesome now my feed crashed... This is such a joke
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 17 @ 8:58 PM ET
Unreal game for bread
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 17 @ 8:58 PM ET
Awesome now my feed crashed... This is such a joke
- MeltingPlastic


I’m on espn+
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Oct 17 @ 9:00 PM ET
Rangers powerplay needs to be better.

Panarin is not worth his contract. This team,.
MeltingPlastic
New York Rangers
Location: outside philthadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.17.2007

Oct 17 @ 9:01 PM ET
I’m on espn+
- picklerick

Hulu feed looked like crap, then the stream stopped and wouldn't reload. then the app logged me out, I couldn't log back in and and now it's back to not loading the stream. Wifi, cellular, or fire stick.. all the same issues
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Oct 17 @ 9:02 PM ET
Are we good or does everyone else suck
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Oct 17 @ 9:02 PM ET
Hulu feed looked like crap, then the stream stopped and wouldn't reload. then the app logged me out, I couldn't log back in and and now it's back to not loading the stream. Wifi, cellular, or fire stick.. all the same issues
- MeltingPlastic

Hulu has live sports
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Oct 17 @ 9:06 PM ET
Are we good or does everyone else suck
- TPC

I think the Rangers are a really good team and are playing they way they SHOULD play against lower ranked teams.
Also, I do believe having Chytil back helps balance out 3 scoring lines. Makes it much harder for teams to defend.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Oct 17 @ 9:20 PM ET
Hulu feed looked like crap, then the stream stopped and wouldn't reload. then the app logged me out, I couldn't log back in and and now it's back to not loading the stream. Wifi, cellular, or fire stick.. all the same issues
- MeltingPlastic



Same here. ESPN app is working. Still not a great feed but it's working.
TC88
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.24.2020

Oct 17 @ 9:21 PM ET
Hulu feed looked like crap, then the stream stopped and wouldn't reload. then the app logged me out, I couldn't log back in and and now it's back to not loading the stream. Wifi, cellular, or fire stick.. all the same issues
- MeltingPlastic


Yup exact same problem. Thought my internet went out but then realized everything else worked.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Oct 17 @ 9:21 PM ET
Hulu has live sports
- TPC



I was ready to angry grandpa my tv when Hulu went down. Missed a goal.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Oct 17 @ 9:44 PM ET
I was ready to angry grandpa my tv when Hulu went down. Missed a goal.
- JRR1285

I am about to drop 70 on the nhl center ice package. The streaming gets annoying on espn +
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Oct 17 @ 9:46 PM ET
So can I ask the question…who does Lindgren come in for? I am not taking any of the 6 defensemen out right now
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