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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 17 @ 1:11 PM ET
Headed to the Marlies game on Sunday, will be interesting to get a good look at some of these guys. I'm hoping Murray gets the start but who knows, I want to see him live and see how he is moving now since his off season surgery.

Now for the "WTF MLSE" part of this.

I'm going because my 9 year old nephew's AAA hockey team is playing at the Marlies rink at 130 and MLSE marketed to teams that they would do this and get discounted tickets for the Marlies game for those who wanted them. Most teams do this as a fund raiser (as my nephew's team did) & I'm happy to help.

The kids play at 130.
The Marlies play at 4.

They are making us leave the rink after the kids game to the re-enter when they open the doors for the Marlies game.

How stupid is that? They could have just left everyone who is there (the what 100 people maybe?) inside, and opened up a concession stand early and probably made some money & not made everyone go outside to wait to come back inside.

Seems stupid to me but whatever.

- Cush29

I suppose it may be extra work to confirm that all hundred inside had marlie tickets and maybe the cost to pay the concessions peeps extra time? Maybe a security issue?
But I suppose they could have confirmed the tickets when you arrived at 1pm.
I agree though, they could make it a little special, allow them to stick around, maybe see the players arrive, free pop and dog or slice of pizza.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 17 @ 1:29 PM ET
Im not making him out to be a valuable piece just pointed out facts to you. If that sounds valuable to you, thats fine. But why trade that for a 5-7th overpaid dman is all i asked.
Unless utah has an abundance of big young centers?

But hey, fantasy is fun.
Would be cool to turn lily into a young big talented center.

- Fakepartofme


Liljergen played 20 mins a game last season, and he did a decent job of it as well. Just because Berube doesn't see Lily as a fit in his top 6 doesn't make it true for every other team. Berube's perspective is not the benchmark for value in the NHL.

Liljegren at 3M per for 2 years at 25 is good value. It is not to the Leafs, since Berube won't play him but he is for plenty of other teams.

Utah has an abundance of Centers, and also McBain is like Lorentz, he can play C but he is much better on the wing.

McBain is a 4th line player on a good team, Utah has to add in this trade. You are overating the guy.

There is a shortage of RHD in the NHL, there are a bunch of tall bottom 6 players that can hit and pop a few goals in here and there.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Oct 17 @ 1:39 PM ET
I suppose it may be extra work to confirm that all hundred inside had marlie tickets and maybe the cost to pay the concessions peeps extra time? Maybe a security issue?
But I suppose they could have confirmed the tickets when you arrived at 1pm.
I agree though, they could make it a little special, allow them to stick around, maybe see the players arrive, free pop and dog or slice of pizza.

- Fakepartofme


It just seems like MLSE wanted butts in the seats for a Sunday afternoon Marlies game and feel like their 'offer' to kids teams was all about that but they likely sold it under the "get cheaper Marlies tickets and get to stay and watch them" leaving out the inconvenience of having to go in, watch, leave and come back in.

Feels like a missed opportunity from a marketing perspective - 9 year olds would have loved to meet some of the players I'm sure and just hang around in the rink.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised but it is disappointing, kind of like the time I got to play on the ACC ice for being one of the top fundraisers in a hockey for heart charity tourney. The tourney organizer told me MLSE didn't even cut them any type of a deal for the ice (we played at like 5pm or something on a non game day).


Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Oct 17 @ 1:43 PM ET
The tricky part is you can't just trade Lilly the day that Hakanpaa is activated. You need to see if Hakanpaa's knee can actually take the rigours of the NHL.
- Atomic Wedgie


You know also on the roster is Philippe Myers - a man who has consistency managed to fail to impress in 3 different markets. He's 6'6 and 220 and is right-handed. Does he pair well with Benoit? There would be no puck mover and neither defenseman would be particularly fast, but giving him a look could tell you if you could afford to part with Liljegren and deploy Timmins/Myers as the #6 RD until Hakanpaa is ready to take on more active duties.

Once upon a long ago Myers did look relatively decent in Philadelphia in his second season - pairing well with Sanheim in the top-4 and with Gostisbehere on the third pair. In his third and final season in Philly things fell apart - the team didn't do well, but that 2nd pairing got eaten alive. Myers didn't fare that badly in the bottom pair, for the record, but they counted on him as a top-4 guy, and off he went to Nashville. You could look at Philly over the next couple of years and speculate that Myers wasn't the only thing wrong with their D, but it shouldn't absolve him of being out of his depth in the top-4. He really couldn't compete in Nashville with the 6 they already had (although their bottom pair of Borowiecki and Benning was a disaster and they should have been trying anything but those guys together!) and he fell further out of the NHL the next two years in Tampa.

I say all of that by way of saying that Myers is certainly not someone you can count on, but he is someone who has an NHL history, a history of moderate success as a third pairing defender - as long as you know what you're getting from him - and can add size, some strength and a little physicality (less than you'd want) to your back end. His is a role we might use more than Liljegren's.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 17 @ 1:57 PM ET
The tricky part is you can't just trade Lilly the day that Hakanpaa is activated. You need to see if Hakanpaa's knee can actually take the rigours of the NHL.
- Atomic Wedgie

There’s also Myers, Timmins and Rifai. Timmins has been ok if nobody else can do it.
Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Oct 17 @ 1:59 PM ET
new blog everyone
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 17 @ 2:09 PM ET
It just seems like MLSE wanted butts in the seats for a Sunday afternoon Marlies game and feel like their 'offer' to kids teams was all about that but they likely sold it under the "get cheaper Marlies tickets and get to stay and watch them" leaving out the inconvenience of having to go in, watch, leave and come back in.

Feels like a missed opportunity from a marketing perspective - 9 year olds would have loved to meet some of the players I'm sure and just hang around in the rink.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised but it is disappointing, kind of like the time I got to play on the ACC ice for being one of the top fundraisers in a hockey for heart charity tourney. The tourney organizer told me MLSE didn't even cut them any type of a deal for the ice (we played at like 5pm or something on a non game day).

- Cush29

Its how they afford Robidas island.
Lol
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 17 @ 2:11 PM ET

I guess I shouldn't be surprised but it is disappointing, kind of like the time I got to play on the ACC ice for being one of the top fundraisers in a hockey for heart charity tourney. The tourney organizer told me MLSE didn't even cut them any type of a deal for the ice (we played at like 5pm or something on a non game day).

- Cush29

This is an organization that is trying to sell Matt Hunwick's locker room nameplate for $50:

https://auctions.realspor...6-17/isynmv1/prod/2676355

This is an organization that is trying to sell used pucks from last year for $75:

https://auctions.realspor...used/isynmv1/prod/2745090

This is an organization that is trying to sell a Reaves jersey from last year for $1,500:

https://auctions.realspor...worn/isynmv1/prod/2745675

And my favourite: this is an organization that is trying to sell the hat that Joel Edmundson wore throughout last year's playoffs for $50:

https://auctions.realspor...cker/isynmv1/prod/2844270

Joel Edmundson had 1 assist and was a -1 in 7 games (TOI/GP 18:40).

And as much as I want to hate MLSE, I would do the exact same thing. If people are stoopid enough to spend money on stuff you would otherwise be throwing in the garbage, why would you stand in their way?



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