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Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 18 @ 8:50 AM ET
I agree with +/- being too arbitrary for a game to game summation.
However, when arrayed against the stats of teammates, and others in the same roles, a comparison can be made more reliably over time.
Being a plus on a bad team is an indicator of worth.

- Pompous
I agree with this sentiment.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 8:51 AM ET
We can focus on goaltending, the criticism of Fedetov's play is warranted. However that's the not entire picture. The overwhelming majority of the Flyers top players got shellacked. The top defense pairings and top lines got severely outplayed. Goaltending can sometimes bail you out but that's not the only issue.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 18 @ 8:55 AM ET
Yes. I always thought that was wild but there was probably more to it like he wouldn’t come over for less. The team was put in a horrible spot with the hart situation but they should have just said forget it. Roll with Petersen as the backup as it didn’t matter. Better hope that kolosov is the real deal.
- Hextall271


https://x.com/ADiMarco25/...ov-to-begin-off-season%2F

I know the Fedotov AAV is higher than expected, but the contract was agreed upon prior to the player coming over from Russia.

I'm told that the contract had to be a certain number to get Fedotov to come to North America.

Not ideal, but understandable given the circumstances.

bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Oct 18 @ 8:55 AM ET
flyer speak phrase of the day

"day to day"
Nick Seeler is day to day with his knee injury.

Real Meaning
"season to season"
Nick Seeler is season to season with his knee injury.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 8:57 AM ET
I'm going to disagree and it may not all be his fault but the other team has no trouble trying to score when he is on the ice.

On the season, when he is on the ice, other teams have out scoring chanced the Flyers 36-16 and out high danger chanced the Flyers 17-7 despite him getting the large majority of his starts in the offensive or neutral zones.

- Flyers_01


Drysdale's coverage mistakes directly led to two goals against. On one goal against, he was in no man's land puck watching, leaving Sanheim all alone at the net with two attackers. Then there was the poor decision in the pinch. I know it's late and the team is down and you want to be aggressive. He had no play on that puck.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Oct 18 @ 8:59 AM ET
Drysdale was fine last night
- ClaudeFather


Might want to go back and look. His d coverage was not good whatsoever.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 18 @ 9:01 AM ET
Drysdale was fine last night
- ClaudeFather
You continue to defend this guy and I haven't the slightest idea why? Distant cousin or something? He is now a -6 on the season and he has earned it.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 18 @ 9:02 AM ET
flyer speak phrase of the day

"day to day"
Nick Seeler is day to day with his knee injury.

Real Meaning
"season to season"
Nick Seeler is season to season with his knee injury.

- bird_dog_pa

can't wait to see how much they hype up his return. it will be sickening.

also can't stand boucher. love him on the national games. flyers games they have become so bad and homeristic it is sickening.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Oct 18 @ 9:05 AM ET
You continue to defend this guy and I haven't the slightest idea why? Distant cousin or something? He is now a -6 on the season and he has earned it.
- Phillywhiteout



jd is on pace to be -123 this year
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 18 @ 9:05 AM ET
can't wait to see how much they hype up his return. it will be sickening.

also can't stand boucher. love him on the national games. flyers games they have become so bad and homeristic it is sickening.

- hello it's me 2050
Do you like anything Flyers related? Serious question. Go Sabres!!!!!
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 18 @ 9:06 AM ET
Might want to go back and look. His d coverage was not good whatsoever.
- Flyfly

They have to get EJ off the ice. Even the Montour goal, more on Fedotov because it was a beach ball, but Drysdale gets pressure, someone collapses on the wing, he reverses to EJ who should have been there in support but he’s nowhere to be found.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Oct 18 @ 9:10 AM ET
The Jett needs to go down. Going to be so entertaining when he is up the whole year though.
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Oct 18 @ 9:11 AM ET
Time to end the Luchanko PR move..he is not close to being ready to play in the NHL...
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Oct 18 @ 9:12 AM ET
Really looking forward to seeing Dan "of the people" Hilferty at the home opener. Probably won't be peacocking around so much after that road trip though. Perhaps some wind out of his sails as he is once again approached by a bewigged Jason Myrtetus on the street today?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 18 @ 9:13 AM ET
Do you like anything Flyers related? Serious question. Go Sabres!!!!!

- Phillywhiteout

here comes wayne the whiner. truth always hurts you? why?

oh and the flyers were outworked and out muscled again last night.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 18 @ 9:17 AM ET
Might want to go back and look. His d coverage was not good whatsoever.
- Flyfly


That pinch with his d-partner down in the circles was a masterpiece
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 18 @ 9:18 AM ET
Really looking forward to seeing Dan "of the people" Hilferty at the home opener. Probably won't be peacocking around so much after that road trip though. Perhaps some wind out of his sails as he is once again approached by a bewigged Jason Myrtetus on the street today?
- StepfordSam

Hilf is another fraud clown.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 18 @ 9:20 AM ET
here comes wayne the whiner. truth always hurts you? why?

oh and the flyers were outworked and out muscled again last night.

- hello it's me 2050
Me thinks that you are the whiner on here. Anything remotely positive about the Flyers drives you over the edge. Booooooooosh is just fine and there is a reason that he is on national telecasts...he is good at his trade! Oh, but he is positive and that is painful to your ears! Another oh, January 6th apparently was a day of love!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 9:23 AM ET
Time to end the Luchanko PR move..he is not close to being ready to play in the NHL...
- hfc355


Agree on the former, disagree on the latter. He can hold his own at this level but that's about it. That is not what you want for a player that young on a non-contending team.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 18 @ 9:25 AM ET
also can't stand boucher. love him on the national games. flyers games they have become so bad and homeristic it is sickening.
- hello it's me 2050


Yeah, I was kinda shocked by how biased he was last night... so used to him giving calm, impartial analysis on national telecasts... JJ must be rubbing off on him.
donny brook
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Burlinton, VT
Joined: 10.04.2024

Oct 18 @ 9:26 AM ET
Yes. I always thought that was wild but there was probably more to it like he wouldn’t come over for less. The team was put in a horrible spot with the hart situation but they should have just said forget it. Roll with Petersen as the backup as it didn’t matter. Better hope that kolosov is the real deal.
- Hextall271



I assume he will need to clear waivers and if that’s the case, that contract will keep him in the organization.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 18 @ 9:26 AM ET
Agree on the former, disagree on the latter. He can hold his own at this level but that's about it. That is not what you want for a player that young on a non-contending team.
- MJL


Burakovsky turned him into a turnstile on the Tolvanen goal and he lost his check on the entry on the 5th-goal.

Rookies are gonna make mistakes but the kid isn't really as up to NHL speed as the Flyers would like to believe. And offensively he's just not able to do anything.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 9:29 AM ET
Burakovsky turned him into a turnstile on the Tolvanen goal and he lost his check on the entry on the 5th-goal.

Rookies are gonna make mistakes but the kid isn't really as up to NHL speed as the Flyers would like to believe. And offensively he's just not able to do anything.

- Tomahawk


He's basically serviceable at the NHL level. He's still with the team for one reason. Tortorella wants to win for his own ego and Briere has no balls. Jones is a Tortorella bootlicker.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 18 @ 9:33 AM ET
He's basically serviceable at the NHL level. He's still with the team for one reason. Tortorella wants to win for his own ego and Briere has no balls. Jones is a Tortorella bootlicker.
- MJL
Torts says good morning to you!
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 18 @ 9:34 AM ET
Burakovsky turned him into a turnstile on the Tolvanen goal and he lost his check on the entry on the 5th-goal.

Rookies are gonna make mistakes but the kid isn't really as up to NHL speed as the Flyers would like to believe. And offensively he's just not able to do anything.

- Tomahawk


I don't think anyone disagrees that he should be sent back to allow him to work on his offensive game, except Torts. The kid just has to many of the traits Torts covets for him to see the big picture. We have seen Torts repeatedly fall in love with players.

That's always been the Flyers problem but even more so with Torts, not seeing the forest for the trees.
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