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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:20 PM ET
There are a handful of teams under pressure to make the playoffs that can be had by a bold GM but Briere isn’t one of those. In fairness most of the league is petrified of losing a deal because that is the quickest way to lose their job. Better to do nothing and ride it out than to take a chance and face judgement.
- psuhockey


Which teams and which players?
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Oct 18 @ 3:28 PM ET
Of course I'm right. There is no realistic trade to be made that would give either team what they need. It what Ek is reporting is true. Just more foolishness from the Flyers.
- MJL

Cozens, Krebs, Kulich, Helenius all centers. Buffalo wants vets and the Flyers have said they have no great desire to make the playoffs. There are plenty of deals to make.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 18 @ 3:34 PM ET
Of course I'm right. There is no realistic trade to be made that would give either team what they need. It what Ek is reporting is true. Just more foolishness from the Flyers.
- MJL

not a fact though your opinion is noted cliff
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Oct 18 @ 4:22 PM ET
just watched the goals, Feds really struggled, shooter tutor might have been a better back up
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 4:30 PM ET
Cozens, Krebs, Kulich, Helenius all centers. Buffalo wants vets and the Flyers have said they have no great desire to make the playoffs. There are plenty of deals to make.
- psuhockey


The key words are realistic and meeting both teams needs. Do you think based on the rumor that the Flyers are looking for a center prospect or a player that can play now? You're not getting Cozens, Krebs is pretty much a bust and the Flyers already have better options. You're not getting Helenius and Kulich doesn't fit the need due to not being NHL ready to play a top 6 role. Both Helenius and Kulich are high level prospects.
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Oct 18 @ 5:19 PM ET
My criticism of the pick is not that I don't think Luchanko is going to be a good player. He is and he has plenty of potential. I just think Buium was the higher rated player and the correct choice. I don't want to see Luchanko become another Laughton. I want more out of the pick. Keeping him in the NHL now is a mistake.
- MJL

I think under different circumstances they would have drafted buium but him having the same agent as cutter and being a agent known to hold out, was probably the biggest reason not 2 draft him.

Look at the agent track record and ask yourself is it worth it to do business with him
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 18 @ 5:34 PM ET
Shooter, you want to walk back that 50 points guarantee for Coots or you still holding strong ?
- ClaudeFather


Nope he is looking better every game. Deployment worries me a bit but He will get a top 6 spot again IMO
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 5:39 PM ET
Nope he is looking better every game. Deployment worries me a bit but He will get a top 6 spot again IMO
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


That's a stretch. Couturier has had 2 decent games and 2 pretty bad games. Need more from him.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 18 @ 5:39 PM ET
Dylan Cozens is struggling. I would move Tippett for him. Unlike theoretical 30 goal scorer Tippett, Cozens has actually scored 30 ounce in his career. It would be worth the chance that maybe getting out of Buffalo would help. Nothing is changing Tippett.
- psuhockey


I like Cozens but hard to see Buffalo moving him after moving Mittlestadt. They dont seem high on Kerbs so I dont see anyone there to take that 2nd C spot on the roster. There would need to be another move in place for them to bring in another C.

The Flyers need to find their Devon Toews. Find a young promising Center that a cap strapped team has to move.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 18 @ 5:40 PM ET
Nope he is looking better every game. Deployment worries me a bit but He will get a top 6 spot again IMO
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

looking better every game doesn't mean he is looking good. getting a top 6 spot on this team is not a great accomplishment.

right now, he is getting by on his smarts. future don't look to hot for ex selke.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Oct 18 @ 5:51 PM ET
When is Johansen's expected to be fully recovered from his surgery?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 5:56 PM ET
When is Johansen's expected to be fully recovered from his surgery?
- Bayareaflyer


Wasn't aware that he had surgery. Not sure it matters.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Oct 18 @ 5:57 PM ET
Wasn't aware that he had surgery. Not sure it matters.
- MJL

But his major surgery was scheduled
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 6:00 PM ET
But his major surgery was scheduled
- Bayareaflyer


I don't know. Why does it matter?
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Oct 18 @ 6:06 PM ET
We need a center, sure, but I don’t think a whole lot of faith in Krebs being a big help to anyone at this point.

I’d take him if we can dump salary somehow, but I don’t go looking for a savior there.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 18 @ 6:16 PM ET
We need a center, sure, but I don’t think a whole lot of faith in Krebs being a big help to anyone at this point.

I’d take him if we can dump salary somehow, but I don’t go looking for a savior there.

- Hesh_


Krebs would be a reclamaition project at this point. 23 year old playing as 4th line C in Buffalo plus add ing a C only really makes sense if one exits the lineup.

Even if Luchenko gets sent back. Flyers would need to move one of Laughton, Cates or Poehling. My thinking is the plan is for Luchenko to go back and Laughton back to 3C and Cates back on 4th line. Possible Cates could be 3C and Laughton 4th too. Either I believe someone needs to go.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 18 @ 7:45 PM ET
Kosolov 4 goals against on 12 shots in one period tonight for Lehigh….maybe Fedotov sticks a little loner…
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 18 @ 8:18 PM ET
We need a center, sure, but I don’t think a whole lot of faith in Krebs being a big help to anyone at this point.

I’d take him if we can dump salary somehow, but I don’t go looking for a savior there.

- Hesh_

Morgan Frost certainly isn't looking like the long term solution here either
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 18 @ 8:40 PM ET
Morgan Frost certainly isn't looking like the long term solution here either
- 2Real

I wish they would trade frost to a competent organization so he could be irrelevant their and then the defenders will say he wasn’t developed properly
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 18 @ 8:55 PM ET
Morgan Frost certainly isn't looking like the long term solution here either
- 2Real


I thought he has looked good and Torts seems to trust him more as well.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Oct 18 @ 9:00 PM ET
Morgan Frost certainly isn't looking like the long term solution here either
- 2Real

Long term solution to what?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 9:19 PM ET
I thought he has looked good and Torts seems to trust him more as well.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Frost had a decent first period against Seattle, despite the penalty. After that, like most of the team he was bad and had an overall piss poor game.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Oct 18 @ 9:26 PM ET
Kosolov 4 goals against on 12 shots in one period tonight for Lehigh….maybe Fedotov sticks a little loner…
- landros 2


Outlier - kid is gold
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Oct 18 @ 9:31 PM ET
Kosolov 4 goals against on 12 shots in one period tonight for Lehigh….maybe Fedotov sticks a little loner…
- landros 2


Ersson has been good. If he slumps or gets hurt, this season will quickly turn into a disaster. Didn't the Flyers play like 5 goalies when Scott Gordon took over for Hakstol? Pretty decent odds the Flyers could have 4 goalies play this season.

Have to figure Fedotov will get WSH away and MTL home at least. November has 14 games, only back to back is at the end of the month. An assumption is a backup would play in at least 5 games.


THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Oct 18 @ 9:34 PM ET
Kosolov 4 goals against on 12 shots in one period tonight for Lehigh….maybe Fedotov sticks a little loner…
- landros 2

Darn, the goaltending will keep them out of being a bubble 🫧 team.
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