Ersson has been good. If he slumps or gets hurt, this season will quickly turn into a disaster. Didn't the Flyers play like 5 goalies when Scott Gordon took over for Hakstol? Pretty decent odds the Flyers could have 4 goalies play this season.

Have to figure Fedotov will get WSH away and MTL home at least. November has 14 games, only back to back is at the end of the month. An assumption is a backup would play in at least 5 games.
- Trox88

I hear you and normally, I would agree. However from my viewpoint, other than something such as a career threatening injury to Michkov, there is nothing that can turn this season into a disaster. I won't root for them to lose but the more they win, the worse it gets for this franchise. If the goaltending goes south. Enjoy the prize at the end.

I hear you and normally, I would agree. However from my viewpoint, other than something such as a career threatening injury to Michkov, there is nothing that can turn this season into a disaster. I won't root for them to lose but the more they win, the worse it gets for this franchise. If the goaltending goes south. Enjoy the prize at the end.
- MJL

I do understand and from my viewpoint sending Jett back, not sustaining any major injuries, and finishing in the top 7 worse records would be very beneficial for the long term.

Morgan Frost certainly isn't looking like the long term solution here either
- 2Real

It would have been very interesting in an alternate reality if Konency and Frost were traded this past offseason and if Jett Luchanko wasn’t in the line up at all. Right now I’d rather be watching the return for those two players in this line up.

Cutter Gauthier pointless in 3 games. Even Drysdale has a goal. How we feeling about this?

holy small sample size batman
- 2Real

Drysdale is minus 67 in 151 NHL games, which is about minus 33 per year

Cutter Gauthier pointless in 3 games. Even Drysdale has a goal. How we feeling about this?
- roenick97

With the Flyers unwillingness to tank for a top 5 pick, Drysdale- Gauthier trades is the really only viable way to get better talent. I'm fine observing the whole season watching Drysdale's performace. I'm sure there will be more errors.

On a side note, Flyers save % -.855- I guess it can only go up from here.

Cutter Gauthier pointless in 3 games. Even Drysdale has a goal. How we feeling about this?
- roenick97

I feel like it’s three games, and although it would be a punch to the gut if Gauthier succeeded after the trade, I’m unwilling to bury the guy with 4 total games of experience on rebuilding a team. That’s even if he got benched. I don’t bury, nor crown, anyone with such a small sample size.

As far as Drysdale, I’d like to believe in him, but at this point I’m chalking it up to “blind squirrel.”

Drysdale is minus 67 in 151 NHL games, which is about minus 33 per year
- mr4tno

he was playing on a rebuilding team?

he was playing on a rebuilding team?
- 2Real

I expect a better effort from Vancouver tonight . Be nice to get a win, but highly unlikely. First game back after a long road trip. Yikes. Sam, eat your Wheaties today

With the Flyers unwillingness to tank for a top 5 pick, Drysdale- Gauthier trades is the really only viable way to get better talent. I'm fine observing the whole season watching Drysdale's performace. I'm sure there will be more errors.

On a side note, Flyers save % -.855- I guess it can only go up from here.
- Trox88

My preference would have been to keep gauthier and see how he develops then draft a dman. I worry that there’s a reason that the ducks were happy to send us jd and it’s his injuries and lack of progression. You’re right though. Give him a while to see what we have. There’s no reason not to play all of the kids this season. As many as are in the lineup, I’d rather see even more.

My preference would have been to keep gauthier and see how he develops then draft a dman. I worry that there’s a reason that the ducks were happy to send us jd and it’s his injuries and lack of progression. You’re right though. Give him a while to see what we have. There’s no reason not to play all of the kids this season. As many as are in the lineup, I’d rather see even more.
- Hextall271

The Ducks knew they were trading damaged goods, thats why they threw in the 2nd. If the Ducks thought he was going to be a #1 dman that was already under contract, he doesn't get traded and they don't throw in a 2nd.

If you are going to suck, at least be smart about it and let the kids be the ones to make the mistakes. It would be crazy if the Flyers determine that they still don't have that #1 dman in their system, which they don't, and try to draft one next year because that's a very Flyer thing to do.

Draft a center in a deep defensive draft and then turn around and draft a defenseman in a deep center draft while still ending up without a #1 at either position.

Also, let's be clear, EJ did block Andrae from playing the last couple of games so the whole EJ being a nothingburger was dispelled quite quickly.

Here is a great example where stats can be misleading. One might look at Frost's game against the Kraken and say, Oh he was 10-5 in facoffs, he must have had a good night at the dot. But when you dig deeper you discover that on the power play Frost was 0-2 on faceoffs and got tossed out of 2 other PP faceoffs, leading to Michkov taking two power play faceoffs and winning them both!

This is why Frost can't be on the 1st PP unit. A team can't afford to have their center lose o-zone faceoffs on the PP, since the team loses between 30-40 seconds as they try to regain the zone and set up. Its a real problem. Imagine how good the Flyers PP can be if they have even more zone time? If Frost is going to stay on the 1st PP unit, the Flyers are going to have to figure out something with the faceoffs. No wonder Ek's headline this morning is "Flyers looking for center help". Especially if they send Luchanko back to juniors eventually.

Cutter Gauthier pointless in 3 games. Even Drysdale has a goal. How we feeling about this?
- roenick97

wow a rookie has no points in the first 3 games of the season. what a travesty. they should shop him around see what his trade value is at the moment.

how are "we" feeling on this? pure entertainment.

The Ducks knew they were trading damaged goods, thats why they threw in the 2nd. If the Ducks thought he was going to be a #1 dman that was already under contract, he doesn't get traded and they don't throw in a 2nd.

If you are going to suck, at least be smart about it and let the kids be the ones to make the mistakes. It would be crazy if the Flyers determine that they still don't have that #1 dman in their system, which they don't, and try to draft one next year because that's a very Flyer thing to do.

Draft a center in a deep defensive draft and then turn around and draft a defenseman in a deep center draft while still ending up without a #1 at either position.

Also, let's be clear, EJ did block Andrae from playing the last couple of games so the whole EJ being a nothingburger was dispelled quite quickly.
- Flyers_01

We're still talking about Gauthier and the trade?? Why are spending any brain power on a punk kid that has 0 points in 4 NHL game and has already been benched once this season? And let's not leave out that Buium went back to Denver this year, so clearly he's not ready for the NHL and will not be for another few seasons at least. You're right, the Flyers do not have a true 1D, but they have in Luchanko a center that has potential to be a true 1C, we just need to give it a few seasons. And in the meantime, the Flyers have plenty of draft capital and young talent coming up that they can use to get a potential true 1D, we just have to see how it plays out and be patient. No one from the Flyers side has said the rebuild is over, in fact they have all stated the complete opposite.

Here is a great example where stats can be misleading. One might look at Frost's game against the Kraken and say, Oh he was 10-5 in facoffs, he must have had a good night at the dot. But when you dig deeper you discover that on the power play Frost was 0-2 on faceoffs and got tossed out of 2 other PP faceoffs, leading to Michkov taking two power play faceoffs and winning them both!

This is why Frost can't be on the 1st PP unit. A team can't afford to have their center lose o-zone faceoffs on the PP, since the team loses between 30-40 seconds as they try to regain the zone and set up. Its a real problem. Imagine how good the Flyers PP can be if they have even more zone time? If Frost is going to stay on the 1st PP unit, the Flyers are going to have to figure out something with the faceoffs. No wonder Ek's headline this morning is "Flyers looking for center help". Especially if they send Luchanko back to juniors eventually.
- jd250

flyers centers are not good overall. this is no surprise they are "looking" for a center. problem is they are probably looking in the wrong place and the wrong type.

sam bennet on an 8 year deal with a massive overpay next summer if he hits free agency will work.......

I expect a better effort from Vancouver tonight . Be nice to get a win, but highly unlikely. First game back after a long road trip. Yikes. Sam, eat your Wheaties today
- Hextall271

I don't know what the betting line is for tonight, but I would think the Nucks are heavily favored. Don't like to make excuses, but who the phuck came up with this schedule to start the season. Really a brutal travel schedule to start things off. Good luck having your legs under you tonight for your season opener. Thanks Buttman!! It should make the tanking crew happy to see that the Flyers are officially in last place in the Metro this morning. Things could really go off the rails quickly if Ersson is injured or has a meltdown. Yikes is right!

We're still talking about Gauthier and the trade?? Why are spending any brain power on a punk kid that has 0 points in 4 NHL game and has already been benched once this season? And let's not leave out that Buium went back to Denver this year, so clearly he's not ready for the NHL and will not be for another few seasons at least. You're right, the Flyers do not have a true 1D, but they have in Luchanko a center that has potential to be a true 1C, we just need to give it a few seasons. And in the meantime, the Flyers have plenty of draft capital and young talent coming up that they can use to get a potential true 1D, we just have to see how it plays out and be patient. No one from the Flyers side has said the rebuild is over, in fact they have all stated the complete opposite.
- jd250

any thoughts on Rutger getting sent to the AHL by the pens? Thought he was entitled and had a guarantee to play in the NHL? wasn't that the only reason he accepted a trade?

the jett will not be an #1 center and he won't even come close to one. doesn't mean he won't be productive or help in the future.

they do not have plenty of young talent coming up. the talent they do have is not top end or even any guarantee to make the NHL. Bonk probably the only one who you can say will see some NHL time.

there is no fn rebuild. stop with this bs narrative.

Cutter Gauthier pointless in 3 games. Even Drysdale has a goal. How we feeling about this?
- roenick97

Like it doesn’t change my mind that the Flyers f’d up. Luchanko has zero points. How we feeling about that?

I do understand and from my viewpoint sending Jett back, not sustaining any major injuries, and finishing in the top 7 worse records would be very beneficial for the long term.
- Trox88

I've said all along the Flyers picking 16th, 23rd adn 29th in this draft is not going to move the needle, other than organizational depth. For the Flyers to take a step, they need another impact player, a true 1C that can play with Michkov or a true 1D that is NHL ready. They are not getting either player picking outside the top 10, or even outside the top 5. I don't get the feeling the Flyers want to wait this long, and will instead use their picks and prospects to trade for someone. What we have learned from the draft is teams are not willing to trade out of the top 10, especially in a projected deep draft such as the one coming up.

any thoughts on Rutger getting sent to the AHL by the pens? Thought he was entitled and had a guarantee to play in the NHL? wasn't that the only reason he accepted a trade?

the jett will not be an #1 center and he won't even come close to one. doesn't mean he won't be productive or help in the future.

they do not have plenty of young talent coming up. the talent they do have is not top end or even any guarantee to make the NHL. Bonk probably the only one who you can say will see some NHL time.

there is no fn rebuild. stop with this bs narrative.
- hello it's me 2050

Do you just like pissing on folks' parties. Any positive comment is quickly followed by you finding a way to cast a shadow over everything? You must be a peach in daily life. Although, I don't think Jett will ever be a #1 center in the NHL. I think his ceiling is #2 center, but who knows with it being so early in his development.

Do you just like pissing on folks' parties. Any positive comment is quickly followed by you finding a way to cast a shadow over everything? You must be a peach in daily life. Although, I don't think Jett will ever be a #1 center in the NHL. I think his ceiling is #2 center, but who knows with it being so early in his development.
- Phillywhiteout

why don't you like facts or the truth?

any thoughts on Rutger getting sent to the AHL by the pens? Thought he was entitled and had a guarantee to play in the NHL? wasn't that the only reason he accepted a trade?

the jett will not be an #1 center and he won't even come close to one. doesn't mean he won't be productive or help in the future.

they do not have plenty of young talent coming up. the talent they do have is not top end or even any guarantee to make the NHL. Bonk probably the only one who you can say will see some NHL time.

there is no fn rebuild. stop with this bs narrative.
- hello it's me 2050

I think you need to stop with the "there is no rebuild" narrative because it just aint true. The Flyers are the 3rd youngest team in the NHL and are currently playing a 18 and 19 year old in their top 9. They also have 6 picks in the first two rounds of an upcoming deep draft. The Flyers are certainly rebuiding and this evidence is indisputable. The difference between the Flyers and other teams like Buffalo, Chicago and Anaheim is the Flyes are not tanking; they are instead trying to build a culture of winning because that is the kind of culture you want your young players to develop in. Buffalo has sucked for 12 years now and there is no end in sight, even though they have picked in the top 10 for 12+ years. Anaheim has got a good group of young players, but where are they right now? Nothing but a dispassionate and losing culture there. Chicago remains to be seen. They sure have a good young crop of players and they have a winning history, but it remains to be seen if they can regain that culture of winning.

We're still talking about Gauthier and the trade?? Why are spending any brain power on a punk kid that has 0 points in 4 NHL game and has already been benched once this season? And let's not leave out that Buium went back to Denver this year, so clearly he's not ready for the NHL and will not be for another few seasons at least. You're right, the Flyers do not have a true 1D, but they have in Luchanko a center that has potential to be a true 1C, we just need to give it a few seasons. And in the meantime, the Flyers have plenty of draft capital and young talent coming up that they can use to get a potential true 1D, we just have to see how it plays out and be patient. No one from the Flyers side has said the rebuild is over, in fact they have all stated the complete opposite.
- jd250

Jett has zero points and was benched for an entire game. Do you really see him as a 1C? He’s kind of small and doesn’t seem to have much of a scoring touch.

Jett has zero points and was benched for an entire game. Do you really see him as a 1C? He’s kind of small and doesn’t seem to have much of a scoring touch.
- Dkos

I do believe Luchanko has a chance to be a 1C, in the mold of a Bergeron or Nick Susuki. He has the raw tools and seems to have the right mindset. I have seen him making some really nice plays out there in the 3 games he has played, and he has also made rookie mistakes. It comes with the territory. I think if the Flyers decide to keep him with the team this year, he will start showing much more offense the 2nd half of the season. However, I wouldn't mind if he was sent down for the season either. I'm fine either way, since physically I think he can take the grind of an NHL season.

I do believe Luchanko has a chance to be a 1C, in the mold of a Bergeron or Nick Susuki. He has the raw tools and seems to have the right mindset. I have seen him making some really nice plays out there in the 3 games he has played, and he has also made rookie mistakes. It comes with the territory. I think if the Flyers decide to keep him with the team this year, he will start showing much more offense the 2nd half of the season. However, I wouldn't mind if he was sent down for the season either. I'm fine either way, since physically I think he can take the grind of an NHL season.
- jd250

It’s funny, you say the Flyers can’t move the needle drafting outside the top 15 in one post and then follow it with a post saying you think Jett, a player that everyone but the Flyers had going later in the draft, is going to be a 1C. Giroux and Richards were picked 22nd and 24th. They’d move the needle for me. You’re probably right, though, that the Flyers don’t want to wait.