Too bad the only trait the leafs top players have taken from Berube so far is his shooting accuracy
- jribout

LOL

You act like they've been junk since the start. They've had 2 bad games. Terrible games really, but still just 2. I think they were 4 wins 2 losses before these 2 stinkers. 1 loss was the opener in which they were by far the better team, and another against a team that's easily in the top 3 cup favourites.

Everyone was enamored with how well they were playing 72 hours ago.

This is Leaf nation in a nutshell. From planning the parade to wanting the team blown up, and back, after every game.
- prock

Not disagreeing but....leafs nation follows the flow of the leafs. The team goes from playing great hockey to just floating around and getting owned. This has been a consistent result with this team (core) for almost a decade.

Its still so early, I'm really only concerned with games 83 +, but giving up points early and often usually relegates them to playing tougher competition in the first round.....which we know they cant get past. Well except that one time they did and they won 1 whole extra playoff game.
But its still early, I don't waste too many calories on this team....we have the whole season ahead of us.

Is it baseball off season yet?

You act like they've been junk since the start. They've had 2 bad games. Terrible games really, but still just 2. I think they were 4 wins 2 losses before these 2 stinkers. 1 loss was the opener in which they were by far the better team, and another against a team that's easily in the top 3 cup favourites.

Everyone was enamored with how well they were playing 72 hours ago.

This is Leaf nation in a nutshell. From planning the parade to wanting the team blown up, and back, after every game.
- prock

Naw ..that was Wodsy's point. Give them time ..no sense judging until late November.

That said ....fan"atics" do this everywhere ..it's not unique to Leaf nation.

"A Little Cute: Berube calls out sloppy Leafs"

Clearly Berube taking a shot at handsome Willie.

Leafs got spanked, Again .....

Leafs look like they were reading and believing the headlines after the Tampa game.

Woll looked soft and it zapped the teams confidence.

PP is aweful… 3 for 27. Same issue from end of last season.

Split up M + M.

Keep calm and wait for the playoffs!!
- Hockey_Reverend

a load of pants is what it is. Let's not pretend here.

Leafs failed.

Lightning failed.

St. Louis prevailed.

Minnesota prevailed.

St. Louis is a top-10 team in the standings right now. Minnesota is top-2 and unbeaten in regulation.

It's not panic time, but you want better results in both games. Leafs did dominate in the shots category and in the faceoff circle, so there's that. It wasn't a tire fire, just every mistake went in the net.

How a team responds to a loss is important. Not letting losses become losing streaks or ruts. Let's see if the old Leafy response happens or if a new and better Berube-driven response happens.

On the plus side, Woll finished a game and didn't get injured.

Leafs failed.

Lightning failed.

St. Louis prevailed.

Minnesota prevailed.

St. Louis is a top-10 team in the standings right now. Minnesota is top-2 and unbeaten in regulation.

It's not panic time, but you want better results in both games. Leafs did dominate in the shots category and in the faceoff circle, so there's that. It wasn't a tire fire, just every mistake went in the net.

How a team responds to a loss is important. Not letting losses become losing streaks or ruts. Let's see if the old Leafy response happens or if a new and better Berube-driven response happens.

On the plus side, Woll finished a game and didn't get injured.
- GalacticStone

Too bad the leafs didn’t play Minnesota?

Too bad the leafs didn’t play Minnesota?
- Dozzer

McLovin would’ve shut us out 😔

Leafs failed.

Lightning failed.

St. Louis prevailed.

Minnesota prevailed.

St. Louis is a top-10 team in the standings right now. Minnesota is top-2 and unbeaten in regulation.

It's not panic time, but you want better results in both games. Leafs did dominate in the shots category and in the faceoff circle, so there's that. It wasn't a tire fire, just every mistake went in the net.

How a team responds to a loss is important. Not letting losses become losing streaks or ruts. Let's see if the old Leafy response happens or if a new and better Berube-driven response happens.

On the plus side, Woll finished a game and didn't get injured.
- GalacticStone

That we know of.

McLovin would’ve shut us out 😔
- mr.sir

lol I wouldn’t bet against it

The leafs record doesn’t look good at all.

Lost to
Montreal - Non Playoff
NY Rangers - Playoff
Columbus - Non Playoff
St. Louis - Wildcard but wasn’t even that til last night’s win

Beat
Pittsburgh - Non Playoff
LA - playoffs due to 2P in OT losses or they wouldn’t be
NJ - playoffs due to the 2 wins in Europe or they wouldn’t be 2 games ahead of everyone and their 0.500% win streak wouldn’t cut it and they wouldn’t be in the playoffs
TB - playoffs (and the only good win so far)

"A Little Cute: Berube calls out sloppy Leafs"

Clearly Berube taking a shot at handsome Willie.
- The Law

After watching the bulk of the game I would be inclined to think he was taking a shot at almost everyone in a Leaf jersey minus Knies.

"A Little Cute: Berube calls out sloppy Leafs"

Clearly Berube taking a shot at handsome Willie.
- The Law

Berubes gotta pull his cannonball head out of his own ass too. Things like Tavares taking more regular defensive zone faceoffs than Kampf is not the ticket.

Kampf with the least amount of d-zone starts on the team. The (frank) are you doing with him then, that's literally all he does. 🤦

lol I wouldn’t bet against it

The leafs record doesn’t look good at all.

Lost to
Montreal - Non Playoff
NY Rangers - Playoff
Columbus - Non Playoff
St. Louis - Wildcard but wasn’t even that til last night’s win

Beat
Pittsburgh - Non Playoff
LA - playoffs due to 2P in OT losses or they wouldn’t be
NJ - playoffs due to the 2 wins in Europe or they wouldn’t be 2 games ahead of everyone and their 0.500% win streak wouldn’t cut it and they wouldn’t be in the playoffs
TB - playoffs (and the only good win so far)
- Dozzer

I feel there's a bit of hand waving at this, and perhaps it feels a little misdirected to me. Based on roster skill and past seasons NJ, LA, TB, NYR should all be playoff bound. Montreal, Columbus and Pittsburgh likely won't be. St. Louis is mid-tier, but have played much better under the voice of their new coach.

I think we're seeing the same old habits in play here - Columbus, St. Louis and the Rangers all play a hard game. You have to fight for your ice and they don't give up much. Tampa, Jersey, Pittsburgh and LA will open up more and give a lot of room at times - especially on the break.

Even with that, the Leafs did get goalied by Montreal and the Rangers. Now the thing is that the Leafs need to get greasier if they want to stop getting goalied - same problem they've had for the last 7 years - get in the crease. Get in the goalie's face. Create a problem. We had a bit in Bunting or Hyman - but neither was that consistent at it nor did we have enough of those players going through the lineup to create the dynamic you need to exhaust the goalie and the other team's D into dumb frustration. This year it seems like they are shooting more from even further back when they need to be getting closer to the net and just using elite shooters in prime scoring areas.

I said last night that I'm not concerned _yet_ because it's a growing process. A new coach isn't going to change these guys overnight. Their problem isn't style or lines or player deployment/ice time - it's the attitude and will of their best players. Matthews and Marner in particular need to learn to step up when the going gets tough. It really has looked like Willy buys in.

I feel there's a bit of hand waving at this, and perhaps it feels a little misdirected to me. Based on roster skill and past seasons NJ, LA, TB, NYR should all be playoff bound. Montreal, Columbus and Pittsburgh likely won't be. St. Louis is mid-tier, but have played much better under the voice of their new coach.

I think we're seeing the same old habits in play here - Columbus, St. Louis and the Rangers all play a hard game. You have to fight for your ice and they don't give up much. Tampa, Jersey, Pittsburgh and LA will open up more and give a lot of room at times - especially on the break.

Even with that, the Leafs did get goalied by Montreal and the Rangers. Now the thing is that the Leafs need to get greasier if they want to stop getting goalied - same problem they've had for the last 7 years - get in the crease. Get in the goalie's face. Create a problem. We had a bit in Bunting or Hyman - but neither was that consistent at it nor did we have enough of those players going through the lineup to create the dynamic you need to exhaust the goalie and the other team's D into dumb frustration. This year it seems like they are shooting more from even further back when they need to be getting closer to the net and just using elite shooters in prime scoring areas.

I said last night that I'm not concerned _yet_ because it's a growing process. A new coach isn't going to change these guys overnight. Their problem isn't style or lines or player deployment/ice time - it's the attitude and will of their best players. Matthews and Marner in particular need to learn to step up when the going gets tough. It really has looked like Willy buys in.
- Monkeypunk

Oh I essentially agree with you except on considering NJ playoff bound. Yeah I know they made moves in the off-season but they didn’t make the playoffs last year so until they do at least a couple times in a row I’ll never give that credit to a team. I mean what if their GM upgraded the wrong parts? *shrugs*

Normally I would agree 100% about The Kings as well but a big question mark went their way after losing Doughty to the LTIR.

new blog everyone

After watching the bulk of the game I would be inclined to think he was taking a shot at almost everyone in a Leaf jersey minus Knies.
- Cush29

C'mon Cushy ...my "cute" and "Willie" joke obviously failed.

I feel there's a bit of hand waving at this, and perhaps it feels a little misdirected to me. Based on roster skill and past seasons NJ, LA, TB, NYR should all be playoff bound. Montreal, Columbus and Pittsburgh likely won't be. St. Louis is mid-tier, but have played much better under the voice of their new coach.

I think we're seeing the same old habits in play here - Columbus, St. Louis and the Rangers all play a hard game. You have to fight for your ice and they don't give up much. Tampa, Jersey, Pittsburgh and LA will open up more and give a lot of room at times - especially on the break.

Even with that, the Leafs did get goalied by Montreal and the Rangers. Now the thing is that the Leafs need to get greasier if they want to stop getting goalied - same problem they've had for the last 7 years - get in the crease. Get in the goalie's face. Create a problem. We had a bit in Bunting or Hyman - but neither was that consistent at it nor did we have enough of those players going through the lineup to create the dynamic you need to exhaust the goalie and the other team's D into dumb frustration. This year it seems like they are shooting more from even further back when they need to be getting closer to the net and just using elite shooters in prime scoring areas.

I said last night that I'm not concerned _yet_ because it's a growing process. A new coach isn't going to change these guys overnight. Their problem isn't style or lines or player deployment/ice time - it's the attitude and will of their best players. Matthews and Marner in particular need to learn to step up when the going gets tough. It really has looked like Willy buys in.
- Monkeypunk

yup!

Not disagreeing but....leafs nation follows the flow of the leafs. The team goes from playing great hockey to just floating around and getting owned. This has been a consistent result with this team (core) for almost a decade.

Its still so early, I'm really only concerned with games 83 +, but giving up points early and often usually relegates them to playing tougher competition in the first round.....which we know they cant get past. Well except that one time they did and they won 1 whole extra playoff game.
But its still early, I don't waste too many calories on this team....we have the whole season ahead of us.

Is it baseball off season yet?
- Fakepartofme

I remember seeing an article a few years ago where they looked at all the contenders over the last bit and pretty much all of them have complete stinkers, just fewer than the next tier of teams (and so on).

I think if they did this all the time, well, it would be rebuild time more than likely, but they don't: they haven't put up back to back woofers like this since 2014-15, and pretty pretty sure that was an abysmal team.

Not disagreeing but....leafs nation follows the flow of the leafs. The team goes from playing great hockey to just floating around and getting owned. This has been a consistent result with this team (core) for almost a decade.

Its still so early, I'm really only concerned with games 83 +, but giving up points early and often usually relegates them to playing tougher competition in the first round.....which we know they cant get past. Well except that one time they did and they won 1 whole extra playoff game.
But its still early, I don't waste too many calories on this team....we have the whole season ahead of us.

Is it baseball off season yet?
- Fakepartofme

It's every team in pro sports. Colorado, unquestionably an elite team, lost their first 4 of the year, 2 of which were against crappy teams (BJs and isles). I'm not big on the oilers, but they went to the finals last year, and were AHL caliber to start the year.

Every team, even the best, throws up a streak of stinkers from time to time.

Naw ..that was Wodsy's point. Give them time ..no sense judging until late November.

That said ....fan"atics" do this everywhere ..it's not unique to Leaf nation.
- The Law

Prob true, I doubt we are the only ones. We're just louder thsn most NHL fan bases.