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furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Oct 25 @ 2:03 PM ET
Briere can send him back anytime he wants, why is it Tort's fault? Nothing wrong with a coach stating the obvious, that the centers on this team suck and they need help anyway they can get it.
- jd250

Hayes would be the top center on this team.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 25 @ 2:13 PM ET
Probably my 2nd favourite Flyer of all time.
- landros 2


๐Ÿ‘When I first started watching the game, he was an absolute scoring beast. Incredible around the net.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 25 @ 2:16 PM ET
Having Luchanko scratched 3 times in 7 games is just wrong. Sure 2 of those are back to back and an argument could be made about not trying to tax him physically. The organization by now scratching him a 3rd time without the benefit of the excuse of back to back is showing a belief that an 18 yr will get better quicker no matter what role in the NHL as opposed going back to the OHL and play in all situations. I'll go very simplistic with this analysis- Jett has played 3 games in the NHL, Guelph has played 9 games. Sorry, I believe a player gets better by regular season games against competition that is somewhat formidable to the prospect. I like Jett as a prospect, he needs to play in the OHL.
- Trox88


Simply put, he should be playing games. If not here, then in the oโ€ฆ And preferably in junior.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 25 @ 2:17 PM ET
https://x.com/charlieo_co...amp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Torts on Luchanko: "With Jett, in the mess we're in right now, at the start of the year, I'm not looking for an 18-year old to try to get us out of it.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 25 @ 2:17 PM ET
Teams go through ruts and bad stretches, consider how Edmonton started last year. The difference is the Flyers don't have MacDavid and Draisaitl to bail them out if the Flyers have a similar start to this season.
- jd250



Well, the even more OBVIOUS difference is that going into the season, Edmonton was a Cup contender. They got it together and played up to what they were supposed to be.

The Flyers suck. The two situations aren't even remotely in the same stratosphere.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Oct 25 @ 2:18 PM ET
Charlie O'Connor
@charlieo_conn
ยท
1h
Tortorella opened the presser today by saying that Zamula left the ice on the game clinching goal Wednesday because Torts was yelling for him to change. Said that was on him, not Zamula.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Oct 25 @ 2:19 PM ET

Charlie O'Connor
@charlieo_conn
ยท
1h
Tortorella says Konecny is day to day. Says they don't yet have an update on York.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 25 @ 2:19 PM ET
Listen, this is a coach who publicly said before the season even started that he had an epiphany over the summer that the team needs to score more dirty and gritty goals. In the pre game interview before the second Washington game. He said he doesn't care about the offense that he is only concerned about defensive tracking.
- MJL


Deez Tracking
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 25 @ 2:20 PM ET
Charlie O'Connor
@charlieo_conn
ยท
1h
Tortorella opened the presser today by saying that Zamula left the ice on the game clinching goal Wednesday because Torts was yelling for him to change. Said that was on him, not Zamula.

- StepfordSam


Bad coaching?

Noooooooo Way
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 25 @ 2:21 PM ET
https://x.com/charlieo_co...amp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Tortorella opened the presser today by saying that Zamula left the ice on the game clinching goal Wednesday because Torts was yelling for him to change. Said that was on him, not Zamula.

Anyone who wants to blame Zamula on that EN goal is way off base.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 25 @ 2:24 PM ET
https://x.com/charlieo_co...amp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Tortorella opened the presser today by saying that Zamula left the ice on the game clinching goal Wednesday because Torts was yelling for him to change. Said that was on him, not Zamula.

Anyone who wants to blame Drysdale on that EN goal is way off base.

- Flyers_01


Fixed it for you.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 25 @ 2:35 PM ET
Fake news is at it again. Why don't you finish the statement from Torts regarding defensive tracking? You are such a fraud. Good thing I am hear to fact check you!

Torts stated right now the most imoprtant thing is how the players are tracking the puck defenseively because if done well that will generate turnovers in the neutral zone which in turn create more offensive chances 5v5. This is not rocket science to any of us that have played hockey, that good offense is generated by a strong forecheck and defensive tracking. Apparently it's news to you.

- jd250


Oh brother. My post was accurate. He said factually that he isn't worried about the offense. Somehow from that you surmised that I don't understand that a good forecheck can generate offense. You're also apparently unaware that a forecheck and defensive tracking are two different concepts in hockey. You also apparently didn't grasp the point I made. I get a kick out of when you try and fight back. You're inept at it but atleast it provides some humor.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 25 @ 2:36 PM ET
Teams go through ruts and bad stretches, consider how Edmonton started last year. The difference is the Flyers don't have MacDavid and Draisaitl to bail them out if the Flyers have a similar start to this season.
- jd250


They have Travis Konecny. The face of the franchise
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 25 @ 2:38 PM ET
Briere can send him back anytime he wants, why is it Tort's fault? Nothing wrong with a coach stating the obvious, that the centers on this team suck and they need help anyway they can get it.
- jd250


Tortorella is the person who decided he would stay with the Flyers and is still deciding.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 25 @ 2:39 PM ET
https://x.com/charlieo_co...amp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Tortorella opened the presser today by saying that Zamula left the ice on the game clinching goal Wednesday because Torts was yelling for him to change. Said that was on him, not Zamula.

Anyone who wants to blame Zamula on that EN goal is way off base.

- Flyers_01


The amount of hate Z was getting for Drysdale's mistake was crazy.

It's astounding what little understanding most hockey fans have of the sport they watch.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 25 @ 2:39 PM ET
Charlie O'Connor
@charlieo_conn
ยท
1h
Tortorella opened the presser today by saying that Zamula left the ice on the game clinching goal Wednesday because Torts was yelling for him to change. Said that was on him, not Zamula.

- StepfordSam


Tortorella isn't even the coach who changes the defense. LOL
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
The amount of hate Z was getting for Drysdale's mistake was crazy.

It's astounding what little understanding most hockey fans have of the sport they watch.

- Tomahawk

It's amazing how clueless folks can be. That play was all on Drysdale. Anyone thinking otherwise needs to go watch soccer or TV poker.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Oct 25 @ 3:11 PM ET
The amount of hate Z was getting for Drysdale's mistake was crazy.

It's astounding what little understanding most hockey fans have of the sport they watch.

- Tomahawk


Agreed. Poeple still don't understand that was on Drysdale.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 25 @ 3:15 PM ET
Agreed. Poeple still don't understand that was on Drysdale.
- Flyfly


There was just no reason to move that puck to Zamula. He wasnt pressured and the Flyers were changing.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Oct 25 @ 3:16 PM ET
https://x.com/charlieo_co...amp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Torts on Luchanko: "With Jett, in the mess we're in right now, at the start of the year, I'm not looking for an 18-year old to try to get us out of it.

- Flyers_01


Great development strategy by Torts.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Oct 25 @ 3:17 PM ET
There was just no reason to move that puck to Zamula. He wasnt pressured and the Flyers were changing.
- MJL


Exactly, he has the puck with no pressure coming. Keep the play in front of you...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 25 @ 3:20 PM ET
Great development strategy by Torts.
- Flyfly


Classic Tortorella. LOL
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Oct 25 @ 3:22 PM ET
Classic Tortorella. LOL
- MJL


I am just apathetic at this point LOL. I don't even get mad these days. Just not worth it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 25 @ 3:29 PM ET
I am just apathetic at this point LOL. I don't even get mad these days. Just not worth it.

- Flyfly


Agreed. I won't root for them to lose but when they do, it doesn't bother me. In the past if they lost 5 in a row, I'd be pissed to the heavens. Now, no big deal. They are an incompetent organization. From the top down to the coach. Believing that is what irks me. No fix in site
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 25 @ 3:35 PM ET
Agreed. I won't root for them to lose but when they do, it doesn't bother me. In the past if they lost 5 in a row, I'd be pissed to the heavens. Now, no big deal. They are an incompetent organization. From the top down to the coach. Believing that is what irks me. No fix in site
- MJL


Agree.

I don't even get mad. I don't root for losses.

I think I get more frustrated that some people on hockeybuzz could put a better plan in place for this team then what supposed hockey lifers are doing.
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