Or we draft the next Nolan Patrick.
- landros 2

With the Flyers track record that could happen if they end up outside the top 5, I could see them drafting McQueen, fans having high expectations to become the large center they need and just straight up flopping under their development.

Not for me. I still believe the Flyers need a top talent, but I'm not sure the Flyers will get the "sure shot" top.

If the Flyers were still able to land Frondell or Misa I would be extremely happy which allows them to get a pretty good D man or two in the 16-26 range, possibly a swing at another forward for depth. Then comes the 2nd round with a chance to add even more depth at the goaltending position and 1st rounders that may slide.

The Flyers are in a great spot if they finally commit and get luck with that 1st pick.
- Glak18

All joking aside, I do think this is a bottom 5 team this year. They've shown me nothing that says they can be a bubble team. I think they've tuned our Torts and there's simply not enough talent on the team to improve. The right play is to try to get more picks if possible at the deadline and hope that this draft is a solid one.

What I do worry about though is us actually hitting on these picks. They need centres, probably a top pair of D and some young forwards to fill out the bottom six
in a few years. I'm happy that they sent Jett back but I am very worried about the way JD has played so far. If he turns out to be a bottom pair d or a borderline NHL player, that is not good.

So far to this point, the hiring of Tortorella and the formation of the triumvirate has been an abject failure. They lucked into Michkov. Their luck will run out.
- MJL

I do think the triumvirate will land a top 5 pick by their ineptitude this season. We can only hope they draft the right prospect and sooner then later Comcast is inclined to rip up the hierarchy. On a timeline basis- no playoffs in potentially 4 yrs (assuming no playoffs this year or next) could hopefully incline Comcast to act. New Era of Orange can only last so long by rebuilding their way. Facts are the last Stanley Cup winning team not to have at least one top 5 pick on the roster was '11 Boston Bruins. They are actively trying to buck an established trend. The Blues drafted Pietrangelo @ 4 . Vegas did not draft a top 5 pick, but they have aggressively used all assets to structure a roster to acquire top 5 drafted players. This regime is certainly not going down that path. So if this team somehow crawls out of the top 5 this year, trends suggest traveling thru the abyss will continue for a long time. Acquiring elite talent is a priority and then adding supporting talent should be the sequence. The Flyers seem intent on doing the vice versa. Only their ineptitude can change this trajectory.

With the Flyers track record that could happen if they end up outside the top 5, I could see them drafting McQueen, fans having high expectations to become the large center they need and just straight up flopping under their development.
- Glak18

This has me very worried. It's going to take a few years of solid drafting to get a team together and if we swing and miss on all picks this draft look out.

I’m not as overly impressed with Briere as some….I wouldn’t call it an abject failure yet. I, like yourself can’t gloss over some of the miss steps. It’s not what I would call a passing grade but I think he deserves a tad more time …imo.
- landros 2

Ordinarily that would be a reasonable take but with the Flyers past, the ridiculousness of the structure in place and the stated approach for the future. I'm calling it a failure. I hope they put egg on m

haha I expect him to be traded because he doesn't fit our 40 year rebuild window.

Joking aside.. He's been better than I thought and seems to have adjusted well. I can't see him keeping up this pace all year, but I could see 50 or 60 pts maybe... I apologize for this post as it might be considered positive..
- Hextall271

I am not easily impressed with young players…for the most part you look to see if they can fit in and make the odd noticeable play. With Michkov, the guy drives the play…he goes to those hard area’s despite his size…he goes into battles for the puck and comes away with it. His skill level is ridiculous but he doesn’t rest on that alone.
Guys like Foerster, Farabee and Tippet could really learn a thing or two when they see this kid go to the area’s you need to go to.
Yes defensively Michkov is a work in progress….but I wouldn’t bet against the kid figuring that out as well.

All joking aside, I do think this is a bottom 5 team this year. They've shown me nothing that says they can be a bubble team. I think they've tuned our Torts and there's simply not enough talent on the team to improve. The right play is to try to get more picks if possible at the deadline and hope that this draft is a solid one.

What I do worry about though is us actually hitting on these picks. They need centres, probably a top pair of D and some young forwards to fill out the bottom six
in a few years. I'm happy that they sent Jett back but I am very worried about the way JD has played so far. If he turns out to be a bottom pair d or a borderline NHL player, that is not good.
- Hextall271

I would love for the team to take Schaefer but the need for centers is too great for them to take him even if they have the chance. As far as hitting on their picks, that’s every team. The Flyers look especially bad at it because the few chances they have had at the top of the draft have flopped. But I am serious that Briere may be more lucky than good so maybe this time around they hit and just suck at filling out the rest of the roster.

All joking aside, I do think this is a bottom 5 team this year. They've shown me nothing that says they can be a bubble team. I think they've tuned our Torts and there's simply not enough talent on the team to improve. The right play is to try to get more picks if possible at the deadline and hope that this draft is a solid one.

What I do worry about though is us actually hitting on these picks. They need centres, probably a top pair of D and some young forwards to fill out the bottom six
in a few years. I'm happy that they sent Jett back but I am very worried about the way JD has played so far. If he turns out to be a bottom pair d or a borderline NHL player, that is not good.
- Hextall271

Torts has these guys gripping their sticks so hard they have hand prints.

I would love for the team to take Schaefer but the need for centers is too great for them to take him even if they have the chance. As far as hitting on their picks, that’s every team. The Flyers look especially bad at it because the few chances they have had at the top of the draft have flopped. But I am serious that Briere may be more lucky than good so maybe this time around they hit and just suck at filling out the rest of the roster.
- psuhockey

I'm not really sold on Schaefer yet. I know he had some hard times last year and is finally playing now. So far the top D this year have size and skating, but nothing I see as elite...kind of Sanheim top 4 potential. Now if the Flyers can grab a top center and one of those top 4 potential guys (maybe two), I consider that a win for the 1st round. Then maybe grabbing goaltending depth and a steal in the 2nd is just gravy.

I am not easily impressed with young players…for the most part you look to see if they can fit in and make the odd noticeable play. With Michkov, the guy drives the play…he goes to those hard area’s despite his size…he goes into battles for the puck and comes away with it. His skill level is ridiculous but he doesn’t rest on that alone.
Guys like Foerster, Farabee and Tippet could really learn a thing or two when they see this kid go to the area’s you need to go to.
Yes defensively Michkov is a work in progress….but I wouldn’t bet against the kid figuring that out as well.
- landros 2

I dont knoiw that anyone is impressed, I mean we havent gone anywhere. He has built a young team. Briere is just doing the same thing as Hextall. Only difference is that the team is much younger and Briere hasnt missed on a early pick.

You could argue he made the same mistake with Konecny that Hextall did with Voracek. Cant compare Giroux to Coots because Coots has a NMC, which is a Fletcher gift. I think he's been fine so far.

Right now the only team locks for the future are Coots, Michkov and Sanheim. Konecny will become a lock July 1st. Im excluding Luchenko as he is not on the team yet

Anyone else could not be on this team in 2-3 years time.

Torts has these guys gripping their sticks so hard they have hand prints.
- MBFlyerfan

Brink was off to a solid start and he made one mistake and he hasn't played since.

This has me very worried. It's going to take a few years of solid drafting to get a team together and if we swing and miss on all picks this draft look out.
- Hextall271

Depending how well they do this upcoming draft I think they have a good start already with Michkov, Bonk and Luchanko, but they need to add more impact players this draft. That takes off some of the pressure to hopefully draft more Luchanko type depth in 2026 and mix it with what they have.

Then you know they are going to go on a spending spree.

Only difference is that the team is much younger and Briere hasnt missed on a early pick.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Cutter is not a miss?

I'm not really sold on Schaefer yet. I know he had some hard times last year and is finally playing now. So far the top D this year have size and skating, but nothing I see as elite...kind of Sanheim top 4 potential. Now if the Flyers can grab a top center and one of those top 4 potential guys (maybe two), I consider that a win for the 1st round. Then maybe grabbing goaltending depth and a steal in the 2nd is just gravy.
- Glak18

I think the first pick will about be guaranteed a center. If they can shore up their center depth and bank some good prospects with the other picks they may be better off trading for a top defender especially one that has gone through their early development. If Buffalo remains a disaster I wonder if Power or even Dahlin will ask out at some point.

Cutter is not a miss?
- Tomahawk

Cutter was Fletcher's pick

I wonder why we're all on this board then? Misery loves company support group?
- Hextall271

no misery at all. some just don't want to accept the reality of where this organization is at and where they are going.

Cutter was Fletcher's pick
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

It's not a miss due to drafting the wrong player. It's a miss due to Briere's mishandling of the player.

Depending how well they do this upcoming draft I think they have a good start already with Michkov, Bonk and Luchanko, but they need to add more impact players this draft. That takes off some of the pressure to hopefully draft more Luchanko type depth in 2026 and mix it with what they have.

Then you know they are going to go on a spending spree.
- Glak18

They are both years away from any real contribution. If they even make it.

The hype around the jett will be so much he will never live up to it imo. he will be pumped up as the future #1 center.

If they use all 3 draft picks in the 1st rd, what are the odds they hit on all? By hit I mean all 3 become nhl regulars.

I think the first pick will about be guaranteed a center. If they can shore up their center depth and bank some good prospects with the other picks they may be better off trading for a top defender especially one that has gone through their early development. If Buffalo remains a disaster I wonder if Power or even Dahlin will ask out at some point.
- psuhockey

I'm on the same exact page as you. That's what I'm doing.

Flyers can get their hands on a potential cornerstone center than I am trying to grab some good transitional defensemen later in the 1st or 2nd and hoping they can develop to their ceiling. There is no sure fire generational defenseman in the next couple drafts so build the depth.

Buffalo is a possible target, they have been building a strong youthful backend and still having trouble progressing. They traded Mittlestadt for Byram and the Flyers could possibly do the same with a Farabee type player, Mittlestadt probably has an edge because he plays center.

I think the first pick will about be guaranteed a center. If they can shore up their center depth and bank some good prospects with the other picks they may be better off trading for a top defender especially one that has gone through their early development. If Buffalo remains a disaster I wonder if Power or even Dahlin will ask out at some point.
- psuhockey

My theory is Hagans is obviously their top rated prospect. I would assume McQueen is somewhere in the top 4 of the Flyers draft board. Just my hunch.

It's not a miss due to drafting the wrong player. It's a miss due to Briere's mishandling of the player.
- MJL

How did he mishandle him. Literally all they did was speak over the phone. The guy didnt even give the org a chance. Nothing Briere could have do could have botched the relationship that badly. Kid has a ego problem and got his feelings hurt because Briere agreed with Cutter it was best he go back to college and didnt beg him to join the Flyers immediately

They are both years away from any real contribution. If they even make it.

The hype around the jett will be so much he will never live up to it imo. he will be pumped up as the future #1 center.

If they use all 3 draft picks in the 1st rd, what are the odds they hit on all? By hit I mean all 3 become nhl regulars.
- hello it's me 2050

I'm not sure why you are assuming I am saying Luchanko and Bonk are making the team real soon...they are no different than most 1st rounders, probably D+3-5 years away from being a regular and making any type of impact. Which is why it's important for the Flyers to draft another impact player that is a D+0-1.

Most 1st rounders should be NHL roster players in some capacity. I don't know the exact numbers, but it's probably 100+ games from a 1st rounder is maybe 75-80%.

I'm on the same exact page as you. That's what I'm doing.

Flyers can get their hands on a potential cornerstone center than I am trying to grab some good transitional defensemen later in the 1st or 2nd and hoping they can develop to their ceiling. There is no sure fire generational defenseman in the next couple drafts so build the depth.

Buffalo is a possible target, they have been building a strong youthful backend and still having trouble progressing. They traded Mittlestadt for Byram and the Flyers could possibly do the same with a Farabee type player, Mittlestadt probably has an edge because he plays center.
- Glak18

I have no idea about any of the players in the upcoming draft. Certainly a 1C is a huge need but so is a 1D. I'm still mad that they passed on Buium.

How did he mishandle him. Literally all they did was speak over the phone. The guy didnt even give the org a chance. Nothing Briere could have do could have botched the relationship that badly. Kid has a ego problem and got his feelings hurt because Briere agreed with Cutter it was best he go back to college and didnt beg him to join the Flyers immediately
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

flyers messed up. stop defending them when they are clearly in the wrong.

he should have been signed as soon as his freshman year was over. end of discussion.

It's not a miss due to drafting the wrong player. It's a miss due to Briere's mishandling of the player.
- MJL

From my understanding Cutter made his decision before Briere was named GM