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landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 28 @ 10:17 AM ET
Coots did not want to fight, but not cause he was scared. More so cause, why should he? Why do you have to take yourself off the ice for 5 minutes after a clean hit? It's dumb and not the way it used to be. If your team starts hitting then the other team would start hitting. It was never this nonsense where you have to fight immediately after a hit as usually if you are on the ice you have no idea if a hit was even clean or not. Just dumb. Coots is finally playing well again and now he is gonna break his hand on a moron like that. No thanks and good for Seeler to step in. That's not a penalty as I think it needs to be a full on altercation to be 3rd man in. If you step in to kinda break the fight up, they wont call 3rd man in as they should not.
- 26912 PP


There is no reason for Cout’s to want to fight wifi. But Cout’s is a true pro. He’s always going to stick up for his team and himself. I was glad to see Seeler come in and was glad to see Wifi show some restraint.
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Oct 28 @ 10:22 AM ET
I’ve been a Drysdale fan for a while and was excited when he became a Flyer. Unfortunately, he’s not rising to the occasion. Watching Lane Hutson last night, reminds me of what Jamie D is supposed to be. He has not been anywhere near that thus far. After 1/10th of the season and JD being healthy, there appears to be cause for concern that he’s not what he was projected to be, I’m sad to say.
- mikeyo27

He’s still young and it’s early in the season. Hopefully he will progress the rest of the way but I do think his ceiling is looking more 2nd pair at best than first pair.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 28 @ 10:22 AM ET
He’s still young and the it’s early in the season. Hopefully he will progress the rest of the way but I do think his ceiling is looking more 2nd pair at best than first pair.
- psuhockey

flyers better pray he turns into a competent 3rd pair guy at this point.
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Oct 28 @ 10:26 AM ET
Will the ND experiment end? It is clear he shouldn’t be playing.

Do you Fedotov being sent to the AHL for at least a conditioning stint to get in some games. What do you think the thought process is for the goalies.

Phantoms question. Do you know if Rizzo is hurt? If not seems odd he isn’t playing after his very strong college career.

- furio16

"poop for brains" also refused to play Gendron. He finally did and all Gendron did was go 1G 1A and 2nd star.....
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 28 @ 10:28 AM ET
"Almost" should be their official slogan for the season.

We "almost" made the POs last season!
We "almost" scored a bunch of goals!
Feds "almost" closed his five hole!
Jamie "almost" knows how to play hockey.
Etc.
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Oct 28 @ 10:28 AM ET
God forbid play the more talented players. When York returns then what? Some things will never change.

At what point do they say we have to see what Andrae can do?

- furio16

Flyers always prioritize size no matter how slow or devoid of skills it is....

Do worry when York returns because Drysdale will be hurt by thennnn
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 28 @ 10:30 AM ET
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 28 @ 10:32 AM ET
One other thing, you've repeatedly said that Erik Johnson won't be blocking a young player. He's been blocking a young player all season.
- MJL


EJ isnt blocking anyone. Flyers stupidity is blocking him. They dont need to play EJ. They called Andrae up during the Seeler injury and could have and should have played him. If you consider that blocking then you could argue the Flyers potentially calling up any other D from the Phantoms would be blocking.

EJ did not have to play and there is no defending the fact that he did aside from maybe Game 1. One can only hope after he hits 1000 games played, he sits in favour of Andrae.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 28 @ 10:33 AM ET
Flyers always prioritize size no matter how slow or devoid of skills it is....

Do worry when York returns because Drysdale will be hurt by thennnn

- mr4tno


Most teams in the NHL do. It is a flawed way of thinking but most teams do it. You need to be realy special for a NHL team to ignore the size piece.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Oct 28 @ 10:34 AM ET
EJ isnt blocking anyone. Flyers stupidity is blocking him. They dont need to play EJ. They called Andrae up during the Seeler injury and could have and should have played him. If you consider that blocking then you could argue the Flyers potentially calling up any other D from the Phantoms would be blocking.

EJ did not have to play and there is no defending the fact that he did aside from maybe Game 1. One can only hope after he hits 1000 games played, he sits in favour of Andrae.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Knowing the Flyers York will be out way more than two weeks. So they have plenty of time for Johnson to get reps.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 28 @ 10:36 AM ET
Flyers always prioritize size no matter how slow or devoid of skills it is....

Do worry when York returns because Drysdale will be hurt by thennnn

- mr4tno


this years draft...there's a 6'6" 240lb defender from russia. could be one of our late first round picks.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 28 @ 10:38 AM ET
EJ isnt blocking anyone. Flyers stupidity is blocking him. They dont need to play EJ. They called Andrae up during the Seeler injury and could have and should have played him. If you consider that blocking then you could argue the Flyers potentially calling up any other D from the Phantoms would be blocking.

EJ did not have to play and there is no defending the fact that he did aside from maybe Game 1. One can only hope after he hits 1000 games played, he sits in favour of Andrae.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


It was Flyers stupidity that Andrae didn't leave on the road trip with the team and been available for game 1. Seeler was hurt 3-4 days before game 1 and the Flyers elected to play short handed despite plenty of advance notice.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Oct 28 @ 10:39 AM ET
"Almost" should be their official slogan for the season.

We "almost" made the POs last season!
We "almost" scored a bunch of goals!
Feds "almost" closed his five hole!
Jamie "almost" knows how to play hockey.
Etc.

- Tomahawk


Almost The Standard
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 28 @ 10:39 AM ET
It’s going to take some time with Michkov and that side of the puck. From all reports he seems to be very open to learning and getting better. He’s a very smart kid. I’m sure it will be fine in time.
- Landros 2

The kid is 19 years old. I would rather this year he learn how to generate offense at this level than worry about defense. That will come over time. We need Michkov to score first and foremost.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Oct 28 @ 10:40 AM ET
Almost The Standard

- Flyfly


Almost A New Era Of Orange.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Oct 28 @ 10:40 AM ET
Almost A New Era Of Orange.
- mickel25





jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 28 @ 10:42 AM ET
I was told by someone in hockey ops that Tortorella did not want "go too small on D" with three small/smallish D. York and Drysdale are in the lineup, so that squeezed out Andrae when he was called up. Right now with York out, though, there's an opportunity for Andrae. He was a bright spot last night.
- bmeltzer

That's what I thought but it does beg the question, what happens when York comes back? Andrae can clearly play in this league and he is the Flyers best option to QB the 2nd PP unit. He is very small though and I agree with Torts that a team cannot be too small on the back end. That being said, if Andrae is not playing when York comes back and Johnson is, then its clear Johnson, because of his size, is blocking Andrae from playing, something both Torts and Briere promised Johnson would not do when he was resigned. I think the media should push this topic with both of them. Andrae didn't look out of place last night, though Montral is a smaller team. Might have looked very different if Andrae had played on Saturday agains the Wild.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 28 @ 10:42 AM ET
Almost A New Era Of Orange.
- mickel25


Technically, it is a new era of orange because they changed the orange tint for their jerseys.. however they changed it back to the old version they wore haha
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Oct 28 @ 10:44 AM ET
That's what I thought but it does beg the question, what happens when York comes back? Andrae can clearly play in this league and he is the Flyers best option to QB the 2nd PP unit. He is very small though and I agree with Torts that a team cannot be too small on the back end. That being said, if Andrae is not playing when York comes back and Johnson is, then its clear Johnson, because of his size, is blocking Andrae from playing, something both Torts and Briere promised Johnson would not do when he was resigned. I think the media should push this topic with both of them. Andrae didn't look out of place last night, though Montral is a smaller team. Might have looked very different if Andrae had played on Saturday agains the Wild.
- jd250


Simple as this - they lied about EJ. Torts is going to play him...
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 28 @ 10:45 AM ET
EJ isnt blocking anyone. Flyers stupidity is blocking him. They dont need to play EJ. They called Andrae up during the Seeler injury and could have and should have played him. If you consider that blocking then you could argue the Flyers potentially calling up any other D from the Phantoms would be blocking.

EJ did not have to play and there is no defending the fact that he did aside from maybe Game 1. One can only hope after he hits 1000 games played, he sits in favour of Andrae.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

On other thing to consider if Andrae plays when York returns, then the Flyers have Drysdale, York, Seeler and Andrae, all on the smallish side. Only Risto and Sanheim have size and only Risto uses his size. That is a huge disadvantage IMO. This is an example of how this roster is just not right and Briere has got to make big changes this season and next off season.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Oct 28 @ 10:49 AM ET
Technically, it is a new era of orange because they changed the orange tint for their jerseys.. however they changed it back to the old version they wore haha
- Hextall271


So almost new but not quite.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Oct 28 @ 10:51 AM ET
That's what I thought but it does beg the question, what happens when York comes back? Andrae can clearly play in this league and he is the Flyers best option to QB the 2nd PP unit. He is very small though and I agree with Torts that a team cannot be too small on the back end. That being said, if Andrae is not playing when York comes back and Johnson is, then its clear Johnson, because of his size, is blocking Andrae from playing, something both Torts and Briere promised Johnson would not do when he was resigned. I think the media should push this topic with both of them. Andrae didn't look out of place last night, though Montral is a smaller team. Might have looked very different if Andrae had played on Saturday agains the Wild.
- jd250


York-Sanheim
Seeler-Drysdale
Andrae-Risto

Plenty of size. No reason for Zamula or Johnson to play over Andrae moving forward.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 28 @ 10:54 AM ET
So almost new but not quite.
- mickel25


New, but in reality old.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 28 @ 10:55 AM ET
On other thing to consider if Andrae plays when York returns, then the Flyers have Drysdale, York, Seeler and Andrae, all on the smallish side. Only Risto and Sanheim have size and only Risto uses his size. That is a huge disadvantage IMO. This is an example of how this roster is just not right and Briere has got to make big changes this season and next off season.
- jd250

Nick Seeler is 6,3 200 LBs ? That’s not smallish. I get that you need size but all three of Drysdale, Andrae and obviously York should be in the lineup every night.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 28 @ 10:56 AM ET
York-Sanheim
Seeler-Drysdale
Andrae-Risto

Plenty of size. No reason for Zamula or Johnson to play over Andrae moving forward.

- mickel25

You know I didn't realize Seeler is 6'3". Still Drysdale and York are 5'11" and Andrae is 5'9" on a good day. That is too small of a D corps IMO.
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