Yet all I hear is stay the course.

They need to be sellers at the deadline. Do a mini rebuild. The only player that should be untouchable is Sorokin.
- JimmyP

A few are untouchable solely because of NTC's.

That list is:

- Barzal
- Horvat
- Pulock
- Pelech
- Mayfield, for who-the-(frank)-knows what reason
- Sorokin

Nelson and Palmieri should be aggressively shopped. It would help if Nelson picked up his production. You'd think he'd be a little more motivated in a contract year. They're both on pace for 29 goals, but Palmieri for 66pts and Nelson for 41pts.

A few are untouchable solely because of NTC's.

That list is:

- Barzal
- Horvat
- Pulock
- Pelech
- Mayfield, for who-the-(frank)-knows what reason
- Sorokin

Nelson and Palmieri should be aggressively shopped. It would help if Nelson picked up his production. You'd think he'd be a little more motivated in a contract year. They're both on pace for 29 goals, but Palmieri for 66pts and Nelson for 41pts.
- eichiefs9

Palmieri may be their best forward so far

Palmieri may be their best forward so far
- Upstate_isles

He certainly is as far as the stat sheet goes

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A few are untouchable solely because of NTC's.

That list is:

- Barzal
- Horvat
- Pulock
- Pelech
- Mayfield, for who-the-(frank)-knows what reason
- Sorokin

Nelson and Palmieri should be aggressively shopped. It would help if Nelson picked up his production. You'd think he'd be a little more motivated in a contract year. They're both on pace for 29 goals, but Palmieri for 66pts and Nelson for 41pts.
- eichiefs9

They may think about waiving it to go to a cup contender at the deadline. Who knows. I'm not sure what the Isles would get back for some of those guys. I can't imagine getting more that a bag of pucks for Mayfeild. Even then they may ask for the bag back.

They may think about waiving it to go to a cup contender at the deadline. Who knows. I'm not sure what the Isles would get back for some of those guys. I can't imagine getting more that a bag of pucks for Mayfeild. Even then they may ask for the bag back.
- JimmyP

They might, but I'm willing to bet they don't want to relocate their families for multiple years to a new city. Most of those guys are Isles lifers and I'm sure have some pretty established roots in the area.

Anything is possible but if they wanted the NTC in the first place then I think it's more likely than not that they want to stay here as long as they can.

A few are untouchable solely because of NTC's.

That list is:

- Barzal
- Horvat
- Pulock
- Pelech
- Mayfield, for who-the-(frank)-knows what reason
- Sorokin

Nelson and Palmieri should be aggressively shopped. It would help if Nelson picked up his production. You'd think he'd be a little more motivated in a contract year. They're both on pace for 29 goals, but Palmieri for 66pts and Nelson for 41pts.
- eichiefs9

Question is, are they going to have Lou in charge of the fire sale and start over? Logic would say no….but it is the isles. When you get work done at a dentist, another dentist doesn’t wanna touch what someone else did. Not the greatest example, but why should Lou be in charge of selling assets for someone else to come in and build it?

Question is, are they going to have Lou in charge of the fire sale and start over? Logic would say no….but it is the isles. When you get work done at a dentist, another dentist doesn’t wanna touch what someone else did. Not the greatest example, but why should Lou be in charge of selling assets for someone else to come in and build it?
- kindlyrick

He shouldn't be in charge of that, as far as I'm concerned. I really believe that if they could land 1sts (maybe more) for Nelson and Palmieri that they can expedite a retool.

Maybe Lee has some value since he's playing strong. If not, a buyout in the offseason saves $4M next year with a cost of $1.5M the season after that.

He shouldn't be in charge of that, as far as I'm concerned. I really believe that if they could land 1sts (maybe more) for Nelson and Palmieri that they can expedite a retool.

Maybe Lee has some value since he's playing strong. If not, a buyout in the offseason saves $4M next year with a cost of $1.5M the season after that.
- eichiefs9

Yeah I think everyone is available if you ask me. Sorokin is the only one I’d hold onto. I believe Nelson and Palmieri bring back firsts. Here’s to hoping that Gary Bettman see’s the isles are in need of a first overall, and pretends we’re the Oilers of the 2010’s

He shouldn't be in charge of that, as far as I'm concerned. I really believe that if they could land 1sts (maybe more) for Nelson and Palmieri that they can expedite a retool.

Maybe Lee has some value since he's playing strong. If not, a buyout in the offseason saves $4M next year with a cost of $1.5M the season after that.
- eichiefs9

Been saying it for a while that I see Buffalo being a potential landing spot for some of these vets. Team desperate for some leadership. Would have to move some money to make it work but could see either Lee or Nelson going there.

Yeah I think everyone is available if you ask me. Sorokin is the only one I’d hold onto. I believe Nelson and Palmieri bring back firsts. Here’s to hoping that Gary Bettman see’s the isles are in need of a first overall, and pretends we’re the Oilers of the 2010’s
- kindlyrick

The Islanders have to build the team like they did back in the day. Strong drafting and smart trades. Islanders are just not a quick fix team that can sign a few high-end FA's. They keep thinking they can be legit contenders with this roster, the more trouble they will be in long term.

He shouldn't be in charge of that, as far as I'm concerned. I really believe that if they could land 1sts (maybe more) for Nelson and Palmieri that they can expedite a retool.

Maybe Lee has some value since he's playing strong. If not, a buyout in the offseason saves $4M next year with a cost of $1.5M the season after that.
- eichiefs9

Do you let Patrick be in charge of it? No idea if anyone in management can be in charge? I do not get Islander ownership over the years so reluctant to replace the GM. I do not want Woody Johnson type ownership, but we do not need ownership way out of the way either and it takes years to make changes with the GM.

- nyisles7

Hopefully

The Islanders have to build the team like they did back in the day. Strong drafting and smart trades. Islanders are just not a quick fix team that can sign a few high-end FA's. They keep thinking they can be legit contenders with this roster, the more trouble they will be in long term.
- ses111

The Islanders built their dynasty team at a time (the 1970s) when players could only be drafted when they were 20. That changed in 1980, and a lot of GMs have said over the years that drafting 18-year-olds is much more of a crapshoot.

Look at two draft picks who were considered solid when they were made: Wahlstrom picked 11th overall; and Dobson picked 12th overall. Wally is close to a complete bust; and Dobson's game, at least on D, has declined precipitously.

That doesn't mean it's impossible to do a rebuild your way, just that the odds of success have dropped.

The Islanders built their dynasty team at a time (the 1970s) when players could only be drafted when they were 20. That changed in 1980, and a lot of GMs have said over the years that drafting 18-year-olds is much more of a crapshoot.

Look at two draft picks who were considered solid when they were made: Wahlstrom picked 11th overall; and Dobson picked 12th overall. Wally is close to a complete bust; and Dobson's game, at least on D, has declined precipitously.

That doesn't mean it's impossible to do a rebuild your way, just that the odds of success have dropped.
- JohnScammo

I think 18 is too young. For me personally the differences between 18 and 21 were pretty drastic, both physically and mentally. I get that not everyone is the same, but I've seen a lot of boys that grew into young men in that time frame. Sometimes it takes longer.

I think 18 is too young. For me personally the differences between 18 and 21 were pretty drastic, both physically and mentally. I get that not everyone is the same, but I've seen a lot of boys that grew into young men in that time frame. Sometimes it takes longer.
- JimmyP

I agree, but I suppose there is often a player or two from each draft who can step right into the NHL at 18. Considering the drafting of 18 year olds has been around for 44 years, I don't see it changing any time soon.

Palms!

You'd think he was playing for a new contract.

Palms!

You'd think he was playing for a new contract.
- JohnScammo

Shop his ass. Old and Slow!

Palmieri may be their best forward so far
- Upstate_isles

So Horvat’s untouchable? Timing not right for a trade?

Shop his ass. Old and Slow!
- nyisles7

Yup. Hope so.

Yup. Hope so.
- streaks

Sooner the better!

Remember when Wahlstrom was good…as a squirt?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak9GRpTc85I

Remember when Wahlstrom was good…as a squirt?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak9GRpTc85I
- streaks

What a move! He should have gone first overall!!

What a move! He should have gone first overall!!
- JohnScammo

Dumb as a stump!