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vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Nov 13 @ 4:44 PM ET
Commesso looked rough. Overall, Lev looked good, but played the second goal a little weak.

To echo others here - Savoie is so much fun to watch. There are no gears to the guy. It's either stop or full go and he creates a lot of havoc in the opponents end and neutral ice. I'd say Nazar is ready now. He gets shots off in dangerous areas, backchecks, forechecks and picks pockets seemingly every shift.

- Chunk


As in his game or his body language?
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 13 @ 4:50 PM ET
As in his game or his body language?
- vabeachbear


Neither. He's a snappy dresser.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 13 @ 5:35 PM ET
Pens selling, traded Eller today.
jhawk59
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Nov 13 @ 6:28 PM ET
What could possibly go wrong?
- Chunk

I believe Wiz told me a while ago that C Dach could make it to the NHL but nothing special. He does have something with his skating yet not going to hold him back.

It is however detrimental to him as far as to be a better skater
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Nov 13 @ 7:11 PM ET
Fatty was referring to Montreal being the crappy team.
- Chunk


Rockford is currently in last place in their division with a 3 - 7 record.

Fatty may have meant Montreal, but that observation fits this year's Rockford team
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Nov 13 @ 8:48 PM ET
I heard from a reliable source, a man who can read body language regardless of nationality, that Bedard is slow, has an average shot and is most certainly not elite, now or ever.
- paulr



It was just an observation a/k/a an uneducated opinion from someone that is not an expert.

You cannot question someone's observation based narrative. All of the NHL scouts and NHL players that said Bedard has an elite shot.... all wrong. Their observations also wrong.
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Nov 13 @ 11:38 PM ET
Pens selling, traded Eller today.
- BetweenTheDots


Malkin has always wanted to be the man in Chicago. Get 'er done Kyle.
SC116
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.29.2015

Nov 14 @ 3:56 AM ET
Malkin has always wanted to be the man in Chicago. Get 'er done Kyle.
- Dieselhead



Oh no ... that one again ... one of the greatest hits of rumours from the past :D
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Nov 14 @ 8:01 AM ET
Oh no ... that one again ... one of the greatest hits of rumours from the past :D
- SC116


Only problem is the Hawks don't have Marcus Kruger anymore to trade for him.

Wonder if the Pens would take Crevier, AA and a 3rd rounder for him.🤔
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Nov 14 @ 9:13 AM ET
From Bleacher Nation. CHSN app coming Friday and there will be no charge for the rest of the season. Enjoy! I’m out of market so I use ESPN +…
Edit - that’s a fail, that app should have been ready to go at the start of the season.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 14 @ 9:28 AM ET
From Bleacher Nation. CHSN app coming Friday and there will be no charge for the rest of the season. Enjoy! I’m out of market so I use ESPN +…
Edit - that’s a fail, that app should have been ready to go at the start of the season.

- Angotti


My guess is that it was ready to go, but they wanted to try and get a deal made with Comcast before launching it.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Nov 14 @ 9:36 AM ET
From Bleacher Nation. CHSN app coming Friday and there will be no charge for the rest of the season. Enjoy! I’m out of market so I use ESPN +…
Edit - that’s a fail, that app should have been ready to go at the start of the season.

- Angotti


Same and I agree on the "fail" part.

Just sounds like a whiff for a team that's trying to reclaim some relevancy in the Chicago sports market.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 14 @ 11:14 AM ET
Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Blackhawks' forward lines in practice. First line changes again, and looks like Martinez will play tomorrow vs SEA:

Kurashev-Bedard-Teravainen
Hall-Foligno-Bertuzzi
Donato-Richardinson-Anderson
Maroon-Reichel-Smith

Martinez-Jones
Vlasic-Murphy
Kaiser-Brodie

- LAHawk


Apparently this is slightly off according to Tab at Bleacher Nation:

Connor Bedard — Philipp Kurashev — Teuvo Teräväinen
Taylor Hall — Nick Foligno — Tyler Bertuzzi
Ryan Donato — Jason Richardinson — Joey Anderson
Pat Maroon — Lukas Reichel — Craig Smith

Yeah, that’s Bedard on the wing. Richardson told us before heading to the airport that they’re not only looking for lines that click, but the opponent has some impact on how they line things up. He noted that teams like Dallas, LA and Vancouver are a bit bigger while a team like Detroit or Seattle (tonight) might be more up-and-down.
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Nov 14 @ 11:43 AM ET
Spector has a Zegras to Chicago scenario (citing Friedman):

https://bleacherreport.co...hinking-about-immediately

"Friedman suggested the Blackhawks should consider adding some help without derailing their rebuilding plans. Acquiring Zegras from the Ducks could address that need. He's signed through 2025-26 with an average annual value of $5.75 million, which the Blackhawks can afford to take on. Skating with Bedard could help Zegras regain his dazzling offensive style.

The Ducks will set a high price for Zegras, but his declining production could make him more affordable to acquire than he would've been last season. They could also be keen to get his full salary off their books.

The Ducks might ask for young center Frank Nazar, but Chicago could counter with promising winger Lukas Reichel and a few draft picks."
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Nov 14 @ 11:46 AM ET
Pens selling, traded Eller today.
- BetweenTheDots



Spector talking about it too.

Why don't we give Bedard his dream, being on the same line with Sid the Kid? Hall is off the books next year so its only a 2.7 bump. Of course, it wouldn't be worth giving the prospects and picks needed but it would be darn entertaining.
Ztra
Joined: 06.21.2018

Nov 14 @ 12:15 PM ET
Apparently this is slightly off according to Tab at Bleacher Nation:

Connor Bedard — Philipp Kurashev — Teuvo Teräväinen
Taylor Hall — Nick Foligno — Tyler Bertuzzi
Ryan Donato — Jason Richardinson — Joey Anderson
Pat Maroon — Lukas Reichel — Craig Smith

Yeah, that’s Bedard on the wing. Richardson told us before heading to the airport that they’re not only looking for lines that click, but the opponent has some impact on how they line things up. He noted that teams like Dallas, LA and Vancouver are a bit bigger while a team like Detroit or Seattle (tonight) might be more up-and-down.

- Chunk

If you are going to give Bedard a shot at wing, why not put Hall at center. He has played there before.

Bedard, Hall, Donato
TT, Kurashev, Bertuzzi
Foligno, D!ckinson, Anderson
Maroon, Reichel, Smith

Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 14 @ 12:35 PM ET
If you are going to give Bedard a shot at wing, why not put Hall at center. He has played there before.

Bedard, Hall, Donato
TT, Kurashev, Bertuzzi
Foligno, D!ckinson, Anderson
Maroon, Reichel, Smith

- Ztra


Probably because they have evidence that Hall-Foligno-Bertuzzi are productive together and tip all of the metrics into the positive. TT and Bedard are good together. The biggest issue that I see is that Kurashev is not going to be able to win pucks, so there really isn't a guy on that line that will. Ideally, they have enough skill to overcome that, but I'm skeptical.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Nov 14 @ 12:44 PM ET
My guess is that it was ready to go, but they wanted to try and get a deal made with Comcast before launching it.
- Chunk

You are probably right. So, how many minutes into the game will the board want Allan in for Brodie? This may include myself.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 14 @ 12:51 PM ET
You are probably right. So, how many minutes into the game will the board want Allan in for Brodie? This may include myself.
- Angotti


I don't need any minutes to want Allen (or anyone else) in for Brodie.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 14 @ 1:11 PM ET
Spector has a Zegras to Chicago scenario (citing Friedman):

https://bleacherreport.co...hinking-about-immediately

"Friedman suggested the Blackhawks should consider adding some help without derailing their rebuilding plans. Acquiring Zegras from the Ducks could address that need. He's signed through 2025-26 with an average annual value of $5.75 million, which the Blackhawks can afford to take on. Skating with Bedard could help Zegras regain his dazzling offensive style.

The Ducks will set a high price for Zegras, but his declining production could make him more affordable to acquire than he would've been last season. They could also be keen to get his full salary off their books.

The Ducks might ask for young center Frank Nazar, but Chicago could counter with promising winger Lukas Reichel and a few draft picks."

- Popsghostly

Pass
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Nov 14 @ 1:20 PM ET
Spector has a Zegras to Chicago scenario (citing Friedman):

https://bleacherreport.co...hinking-about-immediately

"Friedman suggested the Blackhawks should consider adding some help without derailing their rebuilding plans. Acquiring Zegras from the Ducks could address that need. He's signed through 2025-26 with an average annual value of $5.75 million, which the Blackhawks can afford to take on. Skating with Bedard could help Zegras regain his dazzling offensive style.

The Ducks will set a high price for Zegras, but his declining production could make him more affordable to acquire than he would've been last season. They could also be keen to get his full salary off their books.

The Ducks might ask for young center Frank Nazar, but Chicago could counter with promising winger Lukas Reichel and a few draft picks."

- Popsghostly


Reichel + the Tor 1st rd pick in next year's draft?

Zegras plays with 98
Slaggert gets called up to play in Reichel's spot
Call up Nazar because he's already too good for the AHL
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 14 @ 1:27 PM ET
Apparently this is slightly off according to Tab at Bleacher Nation:

Connor Bedard — Philipp Kurashev — Teuvo Teräväinen
Taylor Hall — Nick Foligno — Tyler Bertuzzi
Ryan Donato — Jason Richardinson — Joey Anderson
Pat Maroon — Lukas Reichel — Craig Smith

Yeah, that’s Bedard on the wing. Richardson told us before heading to the airport that they’re not only looking for lines that click, but the opponent has some impact on how they line things up. He noted that teams like Dallas, LA and Vancouver are a bit bigger while a team like Detroit or Seattle (tonight) might be more up-and-down.

- Chunk


This thing about getting Bedard going is a joke. Blackhawks are 3 and 2 in their last 5 games. I'm glad Reichel is back with Maroon and Smith finally, Bedard Teuvo and Foligno work well together, just let it be man.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 14 @ 1:29 PM ET
Reichel + the Tor 1st rd pick in next year's draft?

Zegras plays with 98
Slaggert gets called up to play in Reichel's spot
Call up Nazar because he's already too good for the AHL

- captainserious


Why bring Zegras in here? So he can be a healthy scratch by LR.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 14 @ 1:37 PM ET
This thing about getting Bedard going is a joke. Blackhawks are 3 and 2 in their last 5 games. I'm glad Reichel is back with Maroon and Smith finally, Bedard Teuvo and Foligno work well together, just let it be man.
- BetweenTheDots


And they've only scored 11 goals in those games (not counting the shootout winner). They need more offense, and Bedard has been slumping recently. He's even mentioned it himself in the post-games. I don't think it's outside the lines to be concerned about Bedard scoring considering he is easily the Hawks best scorer (or at least considered to be).

He was getting buried playing with Reichel. Should they have kept that line together just so he could have a consistent linemate?
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 14 @ 1:42 PM ET
Why bring Zegras in here? So he can be a healthy scratch by LR.
- BetweenTheDots


Considering the proposal was Reichel and a pick or two for Zegras, I'd be all over that. The Hawks need more actual players and less lottery tickets. They've got five forwards potentially leaving at the end of the season and maybe three that are considered possibles to fill those spots in the AHL/Juniors/NCAA.
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