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boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Nov 16 @ 10:45 AM ET
Nashville loses again last night, shut out at Calgary 2-0.

As a team they have one less goal for the season in one more game played than the Hawks.

Two of the top UFAs from last summer, Marchessault and Stamkos, who many here wanted the Hawks to sign (disclaimer, I was in on Stamkos), have contributed very little. Does it just takes time for new players to gel on a team, or were they a product of the skilled teams they played for previously? There is still time for them to turn it around, but it goes to show you that signing free agents to a big contract could be a hit or miss.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Nov 16 @ 10:46 AM ET
KD said he is not going to yo yo Nazer up and down. When they decide to bring him up, it is for the I yention he will be up permanently.
- LAHawk


That seems like a silly contrast to development is not linear.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Nov 16 @ 10:59 AM ET
Nashville loses again last night, shut out at Calgary 2-0.

As a team they have one less goal for the season in one more game played than the Hawks.

Two of the top UFAs from last summer, Marchessault and Stamkos, who many here wanted the Hawks to sign (disclaimer, I was in on Stamkos), have contributed very little. Does it just takes time for new players to gel on a team, or were they a product of the skilled teams they played for previously? There is still time for them to turn it around, but it goes to show you that signing free agents to a big contract could be a hit or miss.

- boilermaker100


I was hoping the Hawks might take a run at Marchessault, but misery loves company and I'm pleased as punch that the Pred's are struggling. They've replaced the Wings and Blues to a degree at the top of the no likey list for me.

Now they are both old and bad, kind of like us I suppose but I'm not sure how much helps on the way.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Nov 16 @ 11:02 AM ET
Nashville loses again last night, shut out at Calgary 2-0.

As a team they have one less goal for the season in one more game played than the Hawks.

Two of the top UFAs from last summer, Marchessault and Stamkos, who many here wanted the Hawks to sign (disclaimer, I was in on Stamkos), have contributed very little. Does it just takes time for new players to gel on a team, or were they a product of the skilled teams they played for previously? There is still time for them to turn it around, but it goes to show you that signing free agents to a big contract could be a hit or miss.

- boilermaker100


Stamkos I think was a big beneficiary of a very good power play and a good team. He was definitely slowing down last year.

Marchessault shooting at a very low percentage and the rest of his underlying numbers are not that great but not absolutely terrible.

Forsberg not at his normal pace.

Across the board it's an old team. O'Reilly has a lot of miles, Josi has a lot of miles and is 34 now. Nyquist is having a dreadful year.

Underlying numbers aren't terrible and when you look at PDO you'd think a lot has to do with luck. Once pucks start going in they will probably even out. Just about everyone on the roster even the leftovers from last year are having a rough go.

They should probably be more like 500ish at this point and if theyre not about there at the New Year I'd expect Brunette to be out the door. And then trades to follow.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Nov 16 @ 1:05 PM ET
Is it though? Hasn't a big part of the argument been they need to be in a "winning culture" not constantly losing?
- fattybeef

If the young guys can't beat AHL journeyman, how are they going to beat NHL journeymen when they come up? Most here, but not me for sure, are talking playoffs in two years.
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Nov 16 @ 2:16 PM ET
If the young guys can't beat AHL journeyman, how are they going to beat NHL journeymen when they come up? Most here, but not me for sure, are talking playoffs in two years.
- rpeters01


I was saying two years to make the playoffs...last year
So I didn't think they had any chance to make the playoffs this year,but I figured next year they could make it as a wild card team.
If KD and LR keep up this pathetic pace,there is no way in hell they make the playoffs next year.

Hope people stop going to the games and I hope nobody pays for their stupid app.

I wish fans would give the finger to the bears and blackhawks and stop going to games and buying their sh!tty merchandise
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Nov 16 @ 2:24 PM ET
I was hoping the Hawks might take a run at Marchessault, but misery loves company and I'm pleased as punch that the Pred's are struggling. They've replaced the Wings and Blues to a degree at the top of the no likey list for me.

Now they are both old and bad, kind of like us I suppose but I'm not sure how much helps on the way.

- HawkintheD


I was on the Marchessault/Mittlestadt/and anyone of competence train as well.
Still think adding Marchessault would have been a good move. Even if he doesn't work out in Nashville,at least they took a swing at someone
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Nov 16 @ 2:29 PM ET
You could argue that MacKinnon (if not Makar at this point) is the best player in the league.
- fattybeef


He's been up there with Kucherov and McDavid the last 4-5 seasons.
Funny how McDavid was the can't miss generational talent, above everyone else, but he's they guy out of the 3 without a Cup.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Nov 16 @ 2:34 PM ET
Anybody a Sirius XM subscriber? I received an email from them thanking me for being a loyal subscriber and received an offer for free 6 months of ESPN +.

If you have Sirius and didn't get this offer, maybe call their customer service and try to finagle it, if you're interested.

Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Nov 16 @ 3:42 PM ET
Anybody a Sirius XM subscriber? I received an email from them thanking me for being a loyal subscriber and received an offer for free 6 months of ESPN +.

If you have Sirius and didn't get this offer, maybe call their customer service and try to finagle it, if you're interested.

- boilermaker100

Any updates on chsn app it's on mobile but not Amazon fire stick orbtv
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 16 @ 4:01 PM ET
Taylor Hall healthy scratch

Seth Jonrs out with s foot injury
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Nov 16 @ 4:05 PM ET
Any updates on chsn app it's on mobile but not Amazon fire stick orbtv
- Scott1977

Go to YouTube to see how to download unknown app on firestick. May need the downloader app. Good luck, the good news is that you have six hours.
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Nov 16 @ 4:07 PM ET
Taylor Hall healthy scratch

Seth Jonrs out with s foot injury

- LAHawk


Hall isn't much of a loss, but it will be interesting to see who can eat up all of those minutes that Jones takes care of. I think that this has been Jones's best year as a Hawk, looks like a $6M defenseman out there.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 16 @ 4:11 PM ET
Hall isn't much of a loss, but it will be interesting to see who can eat up all of those minutes that Jones takes care of. I think that this has been Jones's best year as a Hawk, looks like a $6M defenseman out there.
- Dieselhead


No forward currently except Bedard would be much of a loss.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Nov 16 @ 4:26 PM ET
Taylor Hall healthy scratch

Seth Jonrs out with s foot injury

- LAHawk

Jones going to IR, who’s coming up?
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 16 @ 4:46 PM ET
Jones going to IR, who’s coming up?
- Angotti


I'd guess Phillips again (until they can find a trade partner for him).
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 16 @ 4:54 PM ET
I'd guess Phillips again (until they can find a trade partner for him).
- Chunk


Crevier called up
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 16 @ 5:00 PM ET
Crevier called up
- LAHawk


Oof. Why? He's been average at best.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 16 @ 5:02 PM ET
Oof. Why? He's been average at best.
- Chunk


He won’t play much, let’s the kids get the big minutes at Rockford.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 16 @ 5:03 PM ET
Taylor Hall healthy scratch

Seth Jonrs out with s foot injury

- LAHawk


I don't get taking Hall out. Kurashev is an active road cone at this point.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 16 @ 5:03 PM ET
He won’t play much, let’s the kids get the big minutes at Rockford.
- LAHawk


Darn you and your logic.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Nov 16 @ 5:16 PM ET
I don't get taking Hall out. Kurashev is an active road cone at this point.
- Chunk

If Kurashev is a road cone, what exactly is Anderson. Or D1ckinson for that matter?

2 guys who never met a puck battle they can win.
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Nov 16 @ 5:28 PM ET
I don't get taking Hall out. Kurashev is an active road cone at this point.
- Chunk


At first I thought it was because they said he'd be taking maintenence days - playing/practicing a certain amount of days - but then I read LR's quote and realized it wasn't.

Starting to get the feeling that LR is over his head.

Bedard with Kurashev and Donato again.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 16 @ 5:30 PM ET
If Kurashev is a road cone, what exactly is Anderson. Or D1ckinson for that matter?

2 guys who never met a puck battle they can win.

- Elbows15


Day drinking? Both of those guys are solid. Anderson is never going to produce much in the way of points, but gets to pucks and gets them out of the zone when needed. If you think that about Richardinson, I don't think I can help you.

What does Kurashev do well (or even better than those two)?
rickboardman
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Henderson, NV
Joined: 01.16.2016

Nov 16 @ 5:44 PM ET
Nick Lardis with 2 goals and an assist through 2 periods.
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