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Scott1977
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Monday @ 1:18 PM ET
So D!ckinson replaces Anderson on the 3rd line? Also hoping that Kaiser draws back in.
- Angotti

Wonder if Kaiser could in trade discussions
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Monday @ 1:25 PM ET
So D!ckinson replaces Anderson on the 3rd line? Also hoping that Kaiser draws back in.
- Angotti


If I had to guess, Donato would drop to the 3rd and kick out Mikheyev or Anderson and Richardenson would take his usual spot.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Monday @ 1:29 PM ET
I love this post. Only thing I would add to the pile is TT on pace for 39pts and -43. 7 of his 10 pts are on the PP. He's behind only Kurashev in +/-. He's been pretty bad 5 on 5.

Did he forget to play hockey? Or is it how the team is being coached/asked to play?

- bhawks2241



Thanks....not sure but all these guys look lost right now. Seems a shakeup is needed to get some of these vets going and clear the air. I would retain Dean off this current staff as I like the progression of some of the younger D men....Vlassic, Kaiser, Allan.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Monday @ 1:32 PM ET
Well I'm glad they aren't following the path you want to take right now. Players need development and growth and you have no patience for that. Reichel is a failure because you went to one game and saw him live. Got it start wheeling and dealing because it's the only way to build a SC winner.
- BetweenTheDots


Reichel is a failure because he is bad at actually playing hockey.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Monday @ 1:32 PM ET
[quote=BetweenTheDots]


Would love to see them draft Misa or Martone. Martone has some nice size to him. Both to me would be nice adds. They need to start developing top end skill at the F position. Might have to trade from a surplus of D men to get a F or C for the top of 6.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Monday @ 1:55 PM ET
Is this thing still on?

powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Monday @ 2:09 PM ET
Is this thing still on?
- mohel

Yes
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Monday @ 2:27 PM ET
It's funny i get asked if I'd be open to trades and of course i am so long as it makes sense.

Why can't you guys be open to some of our draft picks actually being good and just maybe they need some time to develop?

What if we traded away Vlasic, Kaiser and Allan already because of being impatient?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Monday @ 2:27 PM ET
Reichel is a failure because he is bad at actually playing hockey.
- fattybeef


Sometimes i think you are the gm for the Senators.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Monday @ 2:38 PM ET
It's funny i get asked if I'd be open to trades and of course i am so long as it makes sense.

Why can't you guys be open to some of our draft picks actually being good and just maybe they need some time to develop?

What if we traded away Vlasic, Kaiser and Allan already because of being impatient?

- BetweenTheDots


What is the return?
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Monday @ 2:58 PM ET
It's funny i get asked if I'd be open to trades and of course i am so long as it makes sense.

Why can't you guys be open to some of our draft picks actually being good and just maybe they need some time to develop?

What if we traded away Vlasic, Kaiser and Allan already because of being impatient?

- BetweenTheDots


Why can't you realize that no one is saying trade everyone? Most who advocate trades are saying one or two, or some picks.

I'm happy to wait for some of the prospects to develop and be good. I just don't think you can wait for all of them and hope that you've drafted everything that you need. If you can get a good piece for a reasonable cost, do it.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Monday @ 3:03 PM ET
Why can't you realize that no one is saying trade everyone? Most who advocate trades are saying one or two, or some picks.

I'm happy to wait for some of the prospects to develop and be good. I just don't think you can wait for all of them and hope that you've drafted everything that you need. If you can get a good piece for a reasonable cost, do it.

- Chunk


Then we agree. Again, i again have never said I'm opposed to trading.

I just don't agree with fatty and his nhl24 approach.

And it sure doesn't sound like anyone is happy to wait for the kids to develop

The way i read what folks are posting is they have to make a trade, and i don't agree with that opinion at all.
rickboardman
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Henderson, NV
Joined: 01.16.2016

Monday @ 3:17 PM ET
[quote=SteveRain]

I'm hoping for Mortone. We need size in the top 6.

Kappo Kakko could be had for a 2nd if we offer sheet him at $4m. He's a solid defensive forward with possible top 6 upside and good size. The Rangers can't afford him.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Monday @ 3:32 PM ET
Good morning Folks!

Sorry to see the news about Zach as this site seems to get less relevant by the day. I tried to hold off posting as I wanted to see a larger sample size of games played, etc...

1. I was a huge defender of Richardson but it's time to fire him. I took our son to the game against Florida. If there was 1 player that Richardson having last change should have had Bedard avoid it was/is Bakrov. Instead LR put him again with Richardinson and Joey Anderson and to a surprise of no one....they were dominated up and down the ice.

The MOST important thing for this season is the continual development of 98. that is it. That is THE season. Davidson signed some veteran scoring depth and how many minutes all season has 98 skated with 86,59, and even 71? Not much. The kid is not playing well and part of that is on him, but being young and with a fragile confidence level I would love to know exactly what the F LR is thinking with these lines. Absolute Joke.

2. I am waiting for 59 to be put on IR with some sort of lower body injury. The dude just floats. Thats it. Rarely exerts himself at 100% and looks disinterested much of each game. No wonder he's on his 4th organization in 3 years? Again, to point 1 if 59 was exerting himself maybe LR puts him with 98 and here is your puck retriever etc. Still.....59 going at 75% is 100 times better than Joey Anderson going at 100% for Bedard.

3. I dont' know if this team is just way down but too many guys like 59 look slow and timid much of the games. They have their spurts where they dictate play but too many times when play is ratched up they are a step slow and hang on for dear life. How many points have they given away in the 3rd period where they can't hold a lead OR tie the game up late? They aren't getting smoked and more competitive but it would be nice to get over that hump a little.

Lastly....way way early but I really hope KD and some of these prospect hit. That Russian kid they passed on looked dangerous a lot on Saturday afternoon playing with some crap Flyers players. Hawks MUST find another premier young F to play with 98 to begin to see how high that ceiling is. Just hope 98 can weather this storm and not lose confidence. Kid looks beyond frustrating like a college kid skating with 2 50 yr old men in beer league who can't keep or understand what the talent is trying to do. That to me is what I see every time LR rolls 98 with these 3rd and 4th line players night in and night out.

- SteveRain


Pretty sure you're thinking of Demidov from this past year's draft? Don't think the Hawks really had a shot at Mitchkov.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Monday @ 3:35 PM ET
Pretty sure you're thinking of Demidov from this past year's draft? Don't think the Hawks really had a shot at Mitchkov.
- HawkintheD


Well technically they did if they took Mitchkov over Bedard.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Monday @ 3:37 PM ET
Well technically they did if they took Mitchkov over Bedard.
- LAHawk


That woulda been smart.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Monday @ 3:41 PM ET
That woulda been smart.
- mohel


I am just saying, but if I remember correctly before the draft some "insiders in the know" said they were equal. I don't pay attention to prospects and mock drafts, it is for the most part IMO a crap shoot anyway
Angotti
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Monday @ 3:56 PM ET
Would love to see them draft Misa or Martone. Martone has some nice size to him. Both to me would be nice adds. They need to start developing top end skill at the F position. Might have to trade from a surplus of D men to get a F or C for the top of 6.
SteveRain

Either one works for me, if you land one of these two with the first pick, then KD can move Toronto’s pick plus for a good young forward at the draft, someone that has already shown to be NHL capable, not just a prospect because then you end up with A Nylander.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Monday @ 4:17 PM ET
I hope KD and the Hawks just make a trade when the right opportunity comes up, not just to shake things up because they have a lot of prospects. As fans, we don't know what trade talks have happened, but right now it feels like the team just needs to figure out what they have in the young players and where they fit in. I would hate to see them trade for a player then have a young player who fits that role just as well especially if they have to give up a young guy only to see him seize the opportunity elsewhere.

A bit too much panic from parts of the fanbase that lack patience. We don't currently have too many NHL ready prospects to make room for. We won't often get a great return for guys who are failing to pan out unless we luck into something.

We are at the quarter point of the season and yeah the standings suck, but the on ice product has been a fair bit better on the defensive end. I'd much rather see them defending well than scoring a bunch but also bleeding goals. I'm also glad to see that we currently have solid options in net rather than questions until the long term answer in goal is figured out. Think a year out from now, we probably have Nazar playing full time. Bedard will be one more year mature and closer to where he will be in his prime. Probably KK and Levshunov are probably that much closer to making the team out of camp. Not to mention that Kaiser/Allan will have more experience, EDM, Slaggert, just more guys closer to where the will be long term. Better days are coming boys.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Monday @ 4:18 PM ET
I am just saying, but if I remember correctly before the draft some "insiders in the know" said they were equal. I don't pay attention to prospects and mock drafts, it is for the most part IMO a crap shoot anyway
- LAHawk


Even with Bedard mired in a bit of a slump, imagine how much KFC would get lit up on here for taking Mitchkov.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Monday @ 4:24 PM ET
Even with Bedard mired in a bit of a slump, imagine how much KFC would get lit up on here for taking Mitchkov.
- HawkintheD


Oh for sure, especially the Hawks lack of success with drafting Russians.


SC116
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.29.2015

Monday @ 4:30 PM ET
Pretty sure you're thinking of Demidov from this past year's draft? Don't think the Hawks really had a shot at Mitchkov.
- HawkintheD


Correct-- Michkov was take about#7 in Bedard's draft year. Barring a draft deal it was either/or.

However in picking Michkov over Bedard- that would have made the Ducks pretty happy, I imagine.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Monday @ 5:25 PM ET
Even with Bedard mired in a bit of a slump, imagine how much KFC would get lit up on here for taking Mitchkov.
- HawkintheD


Yeah, imagine if he would have taken Fantilli or Carlsson. There will always be endless options for hindsight when it comes to the NHL draft. My favorite are when they are in the context of small sample sizes.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Monday @ 5:33 PM ET
Yeah, imagine if he would have taken Fantilli or Carlsson. There will always be endless options for hindsight when it comes to the NHL draft. My favorite are when they are in the context of small sample sizes.
- Chunk

I guess one shift would fall under that category.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Monday @ 5:40 PM ET
I guess one shift would fall under that category.
- rpeters01


This guy gets it!
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