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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Wednesday @ 3:10 PM ET
What the Flyers need to get to the next level/stage can only be obtained through the draft (Absolutely top 3-5 or RARE luck in other rounds).

NO, the Flyers can not obtain these players through trades.
NO, the Flyers will not be able to obtain these players through free agency.

The Rangers, and to a lesser extent the Devils, is where the Flyers WANT to get to. Neither team has won a cup during their current build, but both have the core in place. For them to win the cup it is going to take experience, player growth and finding the right roster mix...and of course some luck.

Both teams have drafted high talent picks, signed some UFA's, made trades that worked in their favor and got help in later round draft picks.

The Flyers are without debate at least 4-5 years away from where the Rangers and NJ are currently at, which is where Flyer fans would be most happy to be at. Every year the Flyers management thinks they can bypass the standard process of building is another year wasted and delays the process.

If the Flyers continue to play bubble hockey year after year...

1) It's going to waste Michkov's career
2) Pittsburgh will probably be able to hit rock bottom, draft high, rebuild and leapfrog the Flyers

The sad part is if that does happen, I will never see the Flyers succeed in my lifetime.

- Glak18

This is why this drafy is so important and the Flyers need as many chances as they can get to draft the right players. To this end, Briere needs to trade more veteran players and get more picks in this draft to menuever with. Teams are not going to trade a 1C or 1D to the Flyers, they are going to have to get lucky and draft and develop those players.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Wednesday @ 3:11 PM ET
Michkov and Kolosov this season. Next season Bonk and Luchanko. Its coming, you have to be patient. Players take time to develop.
- jd250

yeah, it's coming. making of a dynasty. difference makers.

may want to read the full post next time.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Wednesday @ 3:12 PM ET
That is because the Flyers don't have the talent Carolina has. As they grow and get in the right players, I think it will look similar.
- jd250

not even talking about the talent. I do not see the same style of play.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Wednesday @ 3:12 PM ET
has danny added any young talent to this roster since he took over? going to exclude JD as that was somewhat forced or players drafted by the flyers.
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He DID draft Michkov, but that was a no brain pick in my opinion.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Wednesday @ 3:13 PM ET
The premise of the blog is laughable. Since 2013 the flyers have won exactly one playoff round.
The went to the playoffs four times in that span.
They have to made the playoffs the last four seasons.
Tortorella can call the team whatever he wants.
What he can’t call the team is a winning team to be emulated.
Michkov is the new Giroux. His talent will be wasted on a team that can’t get through their thick skulls that you need talent from top to bottom to win cups.
Playing hard should be a given for every team. Holy crap your professionals how do you embrace that as your team credo? We worked hard and didn’t quit. The other team won but they knew they were in a battle. But you lost and aren’t making the playoffs for a fifth year and will draft in the teens.
Yeah but dammit we showed other teams we couldn’t be pushed around.
Pfft. Give me a team that doesn’t work as hard but wins cups.
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Wednesday @ 3:14 PM ET
Players dont tank front offices tank ,and this front office isnt tanking.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Wednesday @ 3:16 PM ET
they have to be in the top 5-10 this season. Move Laughts, Farabee, Hath, take back reclamation project and a pick, bottom out after TDL. That should bring the same result next season, then yea, it is obvious they want to thread the needle with FA and trades after.

what is interesting is the last article I read on 2025 draft was not as good as I thought it would be, there is risk in building through the draft too.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Wednesday @ 3:17 PM ET
The premise of the blog is laughable. Since 2013 the flyers have won exactly one playoff round.
The went to the playoffs four times in that span.
They have to made the playoffs the last four seasons.
Tortorella can call the team whatever he wants.
What he can’t call the team is a winning team to be emulated.
Michkov is the new Giroux. His talent will be wasted on a team that can’t get through their thick skulls that you need talent from top to bottom to win cups.
Playing hard should be a given for every team. Holy crap your professionals how do you embrace that as your team credo? We worked hard and didn’t quit. The other team won but they knew they were in a battle. But you lost and aren’t making the playoffs for a fifth year and will draft in the teens.
Yeah but dammit we showed other teams we couldn’t be pushed around.
Pfft. Give me a team that doesn’t work as hard but wins cups.

- bird_dog_pa

not bad
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Wednesday @ 3:20 PM ET
they have to be in the top 5-10 this season. Move Laughts, Farabee, Hath, take back reclamation project and a pick, bottom out after TDL. That should bring the same result next season, then yea, it is obvious they want to thread the needle with FA and trades after.
- wcorvette

did you see "laughts" in the picture (along with TK - no captain however) with EJ for his 1000th game? he isn't going nowhere. he is a flyer for life.

they are way more likely to buy if all things remain the same in 2/3 months.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Wednesday @ 3:34 PM ET
did you see "laughts" in the picture (along with TK - no captain however) with EJ for his 1000th game? he isn't going nowhere. he is a flyer for life.

they are way more likely to buy if all things remain the same in 2/3 months.

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that is the fear, but Coots did have a part in the EJ event.
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: hockeybuzz superfan, QC
Joined: 01.10.2015

Wednesday @ 3:34 PM ET
Ah, this is the board I know
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Wednesday @ 3:36 PM ET
that is the fear, but Coots did have a part in the EJ event.
- wcorvette

I didn't see him on the pics, must have missed it.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Wednesday @ 3:37 PM ET
That EJ event was a bit over the top. I half expected them to bring out his dogs.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Wednesday @ 3:38 PM ET
Very funny Tortorella name dropping yet another team they are emulating. Wasn’t it Vegas according to commentator Jonesy? Then the Blues? Now Carolina?
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Wednesday @ 3:51 PM ET
But they also have Barkov (#2), Tkachuk (#6), Reinhart (#2), Ekblad (#1), Forsling, and a few more players that actually have top tier talent and production.

Talent matters more than anything and the Flyers wont get it drafting in the middle every year.


edit: Leight

- MBFlyerfan


Luck is also needed. Lucky Bob was available to sign. Lucky Forsling turned out so well, lucky Verhaghe was able to replace Hunerdeau (who just had a great season before being traded). Lucky Quennville was replaced. Lucky Tkachuk was available to trading for.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Wednesday @ 4:08 PM ET
TANKTANK TANK TANK TANK

Using Toronto as an example of why not to is laughable and pathetic.
Toronto was able to acquire a core that gives the team hope and has made them relevant year after year. Their playoff failures are multi-faceted but the bottom line is they have been, still are and will be better positioned to challenge for the Cup than the Flyers have been in over 2 decades

Getting the talent is the priority and Ill take my chances assembling the rest of the pieces
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Wednesday @ 4:14 PM ET
Luck is also needed. Lucky Bob was available to sign. Lucky Forsling turned out so well, lucky Verhaghe was able to replace Hunerdeau (who just had a great season before being traded). Lucky Quennville was replaced. Lucky Tkachuk was available to trading for.
- WhiskeyMan

All luck. Nothing else involved. Damn that’s an awful lot of luck.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Wednesday @ 4:15 PM ET
TANKTANK TANK TANK TANK

Using Toronto as an example of why not to is laughable and pathetic.
Toronto was able to acquire a core that gives the team hope and has made them relevant year after year. Their playoff failures are multi-faceted but the bottom line is they have been, still are and will be better positioned to challenge for the Cup than the Flyers have been in over 2 decades

- THE BLACK HAND

ForeverFlyer16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lou Nolan for Flyers Hall of Fame , NJ
Joined: 11.03.2006

Wednesday @ 4:48 PM ET
That EJ event was a bit over the top. I half expected them to bring out his dogs.
- StepfordSam


The Saint would have been awesome!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Wednesday @ 5:07 PM ET
Their Vezina Trophy goalie has not got them to the cup. Missed pretty much al of last season and will miss a lot of this season.

Carolina has talent but not enough talent. In the end their former GM failed to get enough talent to win them a cup

- WhiskeyMan


Which goaltender are you speaking of?

I am talking about Bob the goalie.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Wednesday @ 5:17 PM ET
This is why this drafy is so important and the Flyers need as many chances as they can get to draft the right players. To this end, Briere needs to trade more veteran players and get more picks in this draft to menuever with. Teams are not going to trade a 1C or 1D to the Flyers, they are going to have to get lucky and draft and develop those players.
- jd250


Again more picks doesn't mean better.

Sure, it increases the chance of getting more assets and even a higher chance of one becoming an impact player, which is great for building a lacking prospect pool.

BUT the Flyers NEED guaranteed high ceiling/talent picks that make an impact almost immediately, not 3-5 years of developing. That is top of the top of the top of the draft.

Briere is not going to accomplish a Sedin trade up the ladder deal...it's just not going to happen.

Even if the Flyers finish dead last, still doesn't guarantee a #1 pick, but it guarantees a good spot or better chance to get that top pick.

In my mind the Flyers had 5 years (current stage) and they are now in year 4. So far they have gotten Michkov. The next two drafts they need to add an impact player in the category of Michkov or higher to even think about playoffs in the next 10 years.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Wednesday @ 5:43 PM ET
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BaronVonShiznit
Location: The Desert Southwest
Joined: 09.07.2014

Wednesday @ 6:23 PM ET
Very funny Tortorella name dropping yet another team they are emulating. Wasn’t it Vegas according to commentator Jonesy? Then the Blues? Now Carolina?
- StepfordSam


Directionless... as has been the case for well over a decade now.

The Flyers essentially are the 35 year old guy living in mom & dad's basement because they just can't seem to figure out what to do with their life.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Wednesday @ 7:01 PM ET
Directionless... as has been the case for well over a decade now.

The Flyers essentially are the 35 year old guy living in mom & dad's basement because they just can't seem to figure out what to do with their life.

- BaronVonShiznit

Yea, it's a downward spiral. Nomansland is very boring.
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: hockeybuzz superfan, QC
Joined: 01.10.2015

Wednesday @ 7:06 PM ET
Idk, I kinda like this team …
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