they would be in the same spot they are today without TK. A non contender.
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They would be at the bottom of the league and that would make the tanker crew on here happy, but I don't think that's such a good thing with a new star in town. What if he sours on things here and wants to go bye bye after his ELC expires?

Dude, he's only 20. Nemec and Korchinski are also currently spending time in the AHL so it's not like his development is off target relative to his draft class. Dmen take more seasoning.
- Tomahawk

Are you saying he's not a bust at 20 years old because he can't make a terrible Columbus team? Are you sure?

Are you saying he's not a bust at 20 years old because he can't make a terrible Columbus team? Are you sure?

- MJL

And the turd shows up to completely misinterpret what I said. I said that someone called him a star and I said that there is no way in hell that he is a star at this point. No one called him a bust at 20 years old loser.

They would be at the bottom of the league and that would make the tanker crew on here happy, but I don't think that's such a good thing with a new star in town. What if he sours on things here and wants to go bye bye after his ELC expires?
- Phillywhiteout

so, they would be a non-contender yes?

TK off to a career best start. had he not been re-signed his value would likely never be higher. you and others refuse to look long term. if/when they are contenders TK will be such a small factor in it, if at all.

They are on course for another pick in the 10-13 range. that doesn't move the needle. there is no plan or direction. hope and luck isnt a plan.

damn that is optimistic. maybe make the playoffs in 4 years.
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Yeah, why would anyone be optimistic on here. You'll fit in well here. Congrats!

so, they would be a non-contender yes?

TK off to a career best start. had he not been re-signed his value would likely never be higher. you and others refuse to look long term. if/when they are contenders TK will be such a small factor in it, if at all.

They are on course for another pick in the 10-13 range. that doesn't move the needle. there is no plan or direction. hope and luck isnt a plan.
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I didn't care either way about TK being signed. If he would have been traded for a nice package I would have been fine with it. But no, I am not a believer in tanking. Look at the Caps right now. Would you rather be them or the Pens?

Are you saying he's not a bust at 20 years old because he can't make a terrible Columbus team? Are you sure?

- MJL

Frank Sirivelli suggests the Flyers are perhaps one of the teams that has made an offer….he also has them talking to the Sens…..the Sens are very deep at Center and are looking to shake things up…..the always injured, over priced Josh Norris could be had, but Flyers have more interest in Pinto or Craig. All the pundits agree on. One thing….Briere is amongst the busiest GMs out there.

I didn't care either way about TK being signed. If he would have been traded for a nice package I would have been fine with it. But no, I am not a believer in tanking. Look at the Caps right now. Would you rather be them or the Pens?
- Phillywhiteout

I beleive it was you that said the other day….”imagine watching this team without TK”? How awful that would be.

Yeah, why would anyone be optimistic on here. You'll fit in well here. Congrats!
- Phillywhiteout

I am realist. Optimism isn't warranted at this point.

Frank Sirivelli suggests the Flyers are perhaps one of the teams that has made an offer….he also has them talking to the Sens…..the Sens are very deep at Center and are looking to shake things up…..the always injured, over priced Josh Norris could be had, but Flyers have more interest in Pinto or Craig. All the pundits agree on. One thing….Briere is amongst the busiest GMs out there.
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I'm sure he is. Trying to trade and wheel and deal their way there. They aren't going to be able to do it. The Flyers have to Flyer.

Frank Sirivelli suggests the Flyers are perhaps one of the teams that has made an offer….he also has them talking to the Sens…..the Sens are very deep at Center and are looking to shake things up…..the always injured, over priced Josh Norris could be had, but Flyers have more interest in Pinto or Craig. All the pundits agree on. One thing….Briere is amongst the busiest GMs out there.
- landros 2

that's great. at the end of the day it won't matter unless moves are made to improve the current and future team.

I don't want to hear well we tried, and they didn't meet our price, or they were asking more than willing to pay. Or anything in between. Until he shows a willingness to trade players with value I expect more of the same.

I beleive it was you that said the other day….”imagine watching this team without TK”? How awful that would be.
- landros 2

Yeah, that was last year when they signed him. I am glad he is still with them at this point cause this team would by awful without him. I think he is the right age to be the natural leader of this young team going forward.

I'm sure he is. Trying to trade and wheel and deal their way there. They aren't going to be able to do it. The Flyers have to Flyer.
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should they not try to upgrade the roster via trades for players to help now and the future?

that's great. at the end of the day it won't matter unless moves are made to improve the current and future team.

I don't want to hear well we tried, and they didn't meet our price, or they were asking more than willing to pay. Or anything in between. Until he shows a willingness to trade players with value I expect more of the same.
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The Flyers are two points out of a playoff spot with no seasoned NHL goalie currently and lots of underperforming players (Tippett, Frost, Foerster and Farabee), but you say that they will be lucky to make the playoffs in 4 years. That's not reality, that is being a Debbie Downer, but you'll fit in great here. Welcome to "The View" of the hockey world.

Yeah, that was last year when they signed him. I am glad he is still with them at this point cause this team would by awful without him. I think he is the right age to be the natural leader of this young team going forward.
- Phillywhiteout

they are not good with him.

Say what you will about TK's extension but the guy is actually playing up to the level of his contract. That's nice to see.


- Tomahawk

The concern for me is that he seems to come up with an injury about 50 games in. His production is fine, but the game he plays wears him down, and he ain't getting any younger...

The Flyers are two points out of a playoff spot with no seasoned NHL goalie currently and lots of underperforming players (Tippett, Frost, Foerster and Farabee), but you say that they will be lucky to make the playoffs in 4 years. That's not reality, that is being a Debbie Downer, but you'll fit in great here. Welcome to "The View" of the hockey world.

- Phillywhiteout

look at their point percentage. Where are they in that category? how many teams in front of them?

I don't know if they are underperforming. Maybe that group, outside Tyson as he is only in his 2nd year, just are not that good. Overrated by flyers fans. Imagine having Tippet, Frost, Farabee as your core. Laughable.

Is it on the coach if they are all underperforming? One or 2 players you say it's the player. 4+ how is it not the coach?

The Flyers are two points out of a playoff spot with no seasoned NHL goalie currently and lots of underperforming players (Tippett, Frost, Foerster and Farabee), but you say that they will be lucky to make the playoffs in 4 years. That's not reality, that is being a Debbie Downer, but you'll fit in great here. Welcome to "The View" of the hockey world.

- Phillywhiteout

When Is Taylor Swift going to be a guest?

look at their point percentage. Where are they in that category? how many teams in front of them?

I don't know if they are underperforming. Maybe that group, outside Tyson as he is only in his 2nd year, just are not that good. Overrated by flyers fans. Imagine having Tippet, Frost, Farabee as your core. Laughable.

Is it on the coach if they are all underperforming? One or 2 players you say it's the player. 4+ how is it not the coach?
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They all should be good for 20 goals a season and Tyson scored 20 in his rookie year. I don't see that as being a bad core, although I'd certainly consider trading any of them (outside of Foerster) if the right deal came up.

that's great. at the end of the day it won't matter unless moves are made to improve the current and future team.

I don't want to hear well we tried, and they didn't meet our price, or they were asking more than willing to pay. Or anything in between. Until he shows a willingness to trade players with value I expect more of the same.
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Foerster, 2025 1rst for Jiricek? Too much ? Too little?

Frost, Farabee to Sens for Norris, 2025 1rst…..a big balls trade as Norris makes 8 mil a year and can’t stay healthy.

Does Danny boy roll the dice? Does he really have to at this point? Or should he ?

They all should be good for 20 goals a season and Tyson scored 20 in his rookie year. I don't see that as being a bad core, although I'd certainly consider trading any of them (outside of Foerster) if the right deal came up.
- Phillywhiteout

those guys as part of any teams core will never ever come close to winning anything. They are complimentary players on a real team. Not guys you build around in any way.

Who will still be here on this roster in 4 years?

For arguments sake the ones with long terms deals. Sanheim, #14, TK, Tippet. After that york and Andrae on D. Up front Tyson, MM. Who else? Those are probably the only 99% locks.

Foerster, 2025 1rst for Jiricek? Too much ? Too little?

Frost, Farabee to Sens for Norris, 2025 1rst…..a big balls trade as Norris makes 8 mil a year and can’t stay healthy.

Does Danny boy roll the dice? Does he really have to at this point? Or should he ?
- landros 2

Rather keep Tyson as the flyers forward group isn't very good. Does the Oilers and Avs 1st get it done? Would either team do it?

I def roll the dice on the Dman. I may do that Ottawa deal, not opposed to it, though that's a tough one. Danny needs to show something besides the easy path of least resistance moves.

those guys as part of any teams core will never ever come close to winning anything. They are complimentary players on a real team. Not guys you build around in any way.

Who will still be here on this roster in 4 years?

For arguments sake the ones with long terms deals. Sanheim, #14, TK, Tippet. After that york and Andrae on D. Up front Tyson, MM. Who else? Those are probably the only 99% locks.
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I don't really disagree with that. That's why I said that I'd consider trading Frost and Farabee.

Foerster, 2025 1rst for Jiricek? Too much ? Too little?

Frost, Farabee to Sens for Norris, 2025 1rst…..a big balls trade as Norris makes 8 mil a year and can’t stay healthy.

Does Danny boy roll the dice? Does he really have to at this point? Or should he ?
- landros 2

How bout Frost and Anaheim's second rounder for Pinto? I don't trade Foerster and a first for Jiricek. Oh, and I want no part of oft injured highly paid players.

I don't really disagree with that. That's why I said that I'd consider trading Frost and Farabee.
- Phillywhiteout

would love to know what value they have and what the flyers ask is for each player.