Seriously?
- walshyleafsfan

i feel shame

just stop and accept you're too stupid to get it.

i am genuinely starting to feel bad for you.
- Tumbleweed

I understand. Denial is not telling lies to others. It is internalizing the lies so you actually believe what you want to believe. So, even thought the numbers paint an entirely different result you just tell yourself that the Sens are old and Leafs are young.

Groupthink is where denial becomes entrenched wishing a culture or environment and reinforces beliefs or a set of beliefs that are not consistent with factual reality. The Leafs are the 12th oldest team in the NHL.

Deal with it.

I understand. Denial is not telling lies to others. It is internalizing the lies so you actually believe what you want to believe. So, even thought the numbers paint an entirely different result you just tell yourself that the Sens are old and Leafs are young.

Groupthink is where denial becomes entrenched wishing a culture or environment and reinforces beliefs or a set of beliefs that are not consistent with factual reality. The Leafs are the 12th oldest team in the NHL.

Deal with it.
- spatso

cancel the rebuild. the leafs are too old

cancel the rebuild. the leafs are too old
- Tumbleweed

This is not all that important. But it is a teaching moment.

Leaf fans and especially the media streams a consciousness that is actually different than reality.

When reality does intrude into the day, it can be emotionally painful.

Be careful not to believe what is primarily triumphal hype. It is the disease of choice for many Leaf supporters.

A huge majority of hockey fans in Canada love to cheer against the Leafs and, perhaps, we take too much glee in watching multiple collapses. We don't know how it is actually going to happen but we are keen in anticipation waiting for the inevitable fail that is the history of MLSE and the Leafs.

Sens played another nice game. They are hanging in pretty strong.

The young guys getting lots of ice time. Claesson played 26 minutes, Ceci played 23 minutes. Chabot played a solid game and was on the ice for a large part of overtime. Jaros is a huge hitter.

TSN did a short commentary on all the young D men in the Sens system. All things considered, season has started on a solid footing.
- spatso

did all 19 people actually stay overnight?

This is not all that important. But it is a teaching moment.

Leaf fans and especially the media streams a consciousness that is actually different than reality.

When reality does intrude into the day, it can be emotionally painful.

Be careful not to believe what is primarily triumphal hype. It is the disease of choice for many Leaf supporters.

A huge majority of hockey fans in Canada love to cheer against the Leafs and, perhaps, we take too much glee in watching multiple collapses. We don't know how it is actually going to happen but we are keen in anticipation waiting for the inevitable fail that is the history of MLSE and the Leafs.
- spatso

yes, using an average age that inlcudes non-roster players like lupul and horton is a teaching moment.

you're such a (frank)ing idiot.

Sorry, I forgot to note that we passed 1,000 pages for this thread.

Congratulations to all of you.

I regard many of you as my closest and dearest friends.

With the Leafs playing as well as they are I expect we will hit 2,000 pages even faster.

yes, using an average age that inlcudes non-roster players like lupul and horton is a teaching moment.

you're such a (frank)ing idiot.
- Tumbleweed

Grow up sweetheart. MacArthur is on the Sens list. It is what it is.

What is wrong with you guys. You even rage against the math.

did all 19 people actually stay overnight?
- Crimsoninja

Yes. It is a huge cottage with four bedrooms and a full finished basement. Sleeping wasn't too bad. Meals had to be done in shifts. Kids first, adults second, drinkers whenever.

Grow up sweetheart. MacArthur is on the Sens list. It is what it is.

What is wrong with you guys. You even rage against the math.
- spatso

Grow up sweetheart. MacArthur is on the Sens list. It is what it is.

What is wrong with you guys. You even rage against the math.
- spatso

The math is not wrong. That is the average age of the team, taking into account non-roster players.

Nobody is arguing with that.

The argument boils down to 3 key points:

1)non-roster players aren't relevant
2)this doesn't take into account importance of a player(ie 20 year old Matthews is more important than late-30s spare part Moore)
3)anyone who wasn't an idiot or troll would recognize points 1 and 2 before posting.

The math is not wrong. That is the average age of the team, taking into account non-roster players.

Nobody is arguing with that.

The argument boils down to 3 key points:

1)non-roster players aren't relevant
2)this doesn't take into account importance of a player(ie 20 year old Matthews is more important than late-30s spare part Moore)
3)anyone who wasn't an idiot or troll would recognize points 1 and 2 before posting.
- Feeling Glucky?

but typos that change results, averages that include players that don't play, and an average that values all players equally = precision!!!

The math is not wrong. That is the average age of the team, taking into account non-roster players.

Nobody is arguing with that.

The argument boils down to 3 key points:

1)non-roster players aren't relevant
2)this doesn't take into account importance of a player(ie 20 year old Matthews is more important than late-30s spare part Moore)
3)anyone who wasn't an idiot or troll would recognize points 1 and 2 before posting.
- Feeling Glucky?

This is just more of the same kind of language saying Leafs are special, they are different. But they are not. MHL Numbers applies the numbers in the same way for each team. Leafs are 12th oldest team in NHL. And, Sens are 11th.

This is just more of the same kind of language saying Leafs are special, they are different. But they are not. MHL Numbers applies the numbers in the same way for each team. Leafs are 12th oldest team in NHL. And, Sens are 11th.
- spatso

i don't get it.

is this standings or scoreboard? or both?

but typos that change results, averages that include players that don't play, and an average that values all players equally = precision!!!
- Tumbleweed

Just another way of saying "I don't want to know about this."

Just another way of saying "I don't want to know about this."
- spatso

don't worry. i already put in cancellation notice for the rebuild.

it'll take a couple days to process.

i don't get it.

is this standings or scoreboard? or both?
- Tumbleweed

Ah, finally.

Someone surrenders to the unreality of peripheral discourse.

OMG GUYS!!!

I JUST REALIZED THAT WHEN THE LEAFS SIGNED SOME VETERANS THIS SUMMER ON SHORT-TERM DEALS THAT IT CAUSED THE AVERAGE AGE OF THE TEAM TO GO UP, NOT DOWN.

IT DIDN'T GO DOWN. I AM BEING SERIOUS ABOUT THIS. WHY DID NO ONE SEE THIS COMING?!?!

This is just more of the same kind of language saying Leafs are special, they are different. But they are not. MHL Numbers applies the numbers in the same way for each team. Leafs are 12th oldest team in NHL. And, Sens are 11th.
- spatso

Raise the banner

This is just more of the same kind of language saying Leafs are special, they are different. But they are not. MHL Numbers applies the numbers in the same way for each team. Leafs are 12th oldest team in NHL. And, Sens are 11th.
- spatso

So for point 3, which will you admit to, idiot or troll?

So for point 3, which will you admit to, idiot or troll?
- Feeling Glucky?

he's an idiot troll

i use to dispute this as unreality. not anymore.

So for point 3, which will you admit to, idiot or troll?
- Feeling Glucky?

Ah! Great question. Mrs. Spatso regularly says that I am an idiot. Especially when it comes to my passion for hockey.

Ah! Great question. Mrs. Spatso regularly says that I am an idiot. Especially when it comes to my passion for hockey.
- spatso

Yes, I think we can all agree with the fictional Mrs. Spasto.

Yes, I think we can all agree with the fictional Mrs. Spasto.
- Feeling Glucky?

I just told Mrs. Spatso that you thought she was fictional. She thought it was not that bad of an idea.