Whoa, you can't change the discussion now. This is about who is better, Leafs or Sens. When the Sens beat the Leafs in the rookie tournament many of you said it did not matter. When they beat them 2x in exhibition you said it did not matter until the regular season. So now the Sens beat the Leafs in the regular season and you say it does not matter because the Leafs were not trying.
- spatso

This is about who's in a better position, not who's a better team.

The answer to both of those questions, is, of course, the Leafs... but we should be clear.

And no, head-to-head wins/losses don't matter. Leafs when they were at their worst were able to beat stanley cup champions. And even now, and the best they've been in a long time, lost to arguably one of the weakest groups of talent in the NHL.

Whether you're looking at Standings, point%, wins, or underlying stats, the Leafs are currently the better team.

When you ignore all that, and look at things like young talent, team financial positions, management groups, etc... Leafs are in a better position.

This is about who's in a better position, not who's a better team.

The answer to both of those questions, is, of course, the Leafs... but we should be clear.

And no, head-to-head wins/losses don't matter. Leafs when they were at their worst were able to beat stanley cup champions. And even now, and the best they've been in a long time, lost to arguably one of the weakest groups of talent in the NHL.

Whether you're looking at Standings, point%, wins, or underlying stats, the Leafs are currently the better team.

When you ignore all that, and look at things like young talent, team financial positions, management groups, etc... Leafs are in a better position.
- Feeling Glucky?

Lots of wind in that statement.

So, scoreboard no longer matters. Leaf fans insist game results and playoffs no longer count. Leaf fans will gather at the ACA for a triumphal review of the audited financial statements of MLSE.

And, you wonder why we all take such great joy in poking fun at you guys.

Next year you can challenge the Green Bay Packers to a cross sport cash flow showdown. Canadians have always taken such great pleasure in being able to make fun of the Leafs and their fans. If they did not exist in all their magnificent goofiness, we would have to invent them.

Lots of wind in that statement.

So, scoreboard no longer matters. Leaf fans insist game results and playoffs no longer count. Leaf fans will gather at the ACA for a triumphal review of the audited financial statements of MLSE.

And, you wonder why we all take such great joy in poking fun at you guys.

Next year you can challenge the Green Bay Packers to a cross sport cash flow showdown. Canadians have always taken such great pleasure in being able to make fun of the Leafs and their fans. If they did not exist in all their magnificent goofiness, we would have to invent them.
- spatso

Holy poop you’re dumb.

Lots of wind in that statement.

So, scoreboard no longer matters. Leaf fans insist game results and playoffs no longer count. Leaf fans will gather at the ACA for a triumphal review of the audited financial statements of MLSE.

And, you wonder why we all take such great joy in poking fun at you guys.

Next year you can challenge the Green Bay Packers to a cross sport cash flow showdown. Canadians have always taken such great pleasure in being able to make fun of the Leafs and their fans. If they did not exist in all their magnificent goofiness, we would have to invent them.
- spatso

No Spazzo, He was right.


Read the title of the thread.

First of all, I don't believe the Sens are a better team even now, but even if I give you that because of last year, and last training camp and last Saturday...

The Leafs are still in a better position for so many reasons, and I love the fact that you absolutely know this is true and it eats away at you because you were the
one who decided to switch allegiance, which is comical in itself.

Oh and it is pretty (frank)ing funny that you are still crowing about pre-season and rookie tournaments.

so nucks beat the sens.

nucks are the better team then.

amirite?
- Tumbleweed

Well the Senators and Canucks have played two games this season .......... Ottawa recieved 3 out of 4 points, and the Canucks just 2 out of 4 ........... so head to head this season.......no.

we're getting to the point where it's going to start being really difficult to outdumb each other
- daeth

Well some leaf fans don't want to look in the recent past, such as last season, or the last 5 or 10 seasons............ or since the lockout............. so now just the last game is not a good measure for them ........ so they keep going back to preliminary playoff rounds, or cups from over 50 years ago.



So what would you suggest as a set of relevant parameters?

Leafs have Auston Matthews
Sens have Logan Brown
- senstroll

Ottawa has Erik Karlsson .......leafs, Roman Polák

Your a Pitt fan now. Because the Sens have NEVER WON ANYTHING. Just an FYI.
- bixll

This is about who's in a better position, not who's a better team.

The answer to both of those questions, is, of course, the Leafs... but we should be clear.

And no, head-to-head wins/losses don't matter. Leafs when they were at their worst were able to beat stanley cup champions. And even now, and the best they've been in a long time, lost to arguably one of the weakest groups of talent in the NHL.

Whether you're looking at Standings, point%, wins, or underlying stats, the Leafs are currently the better team.

When you ignore all that, and look at things like young talent, team financial positions, management groups, etc... Leafs are in a better position.
- Feeling Glucky?

that's your opinion......... that's all.

- D0PPELGANGER

LOL

Well the Senators and Canucks have played two games this season .......... Ottawa recieved 3 out of 4 points, and the Canucks just 2 out of 4 ........... so head to head this season.......no.
- D0PPELGANGER

NJ is the one ring that rules them all.

that's your opinion......... that's all.
- D0PPELGANGER

It's my opinion that the Leafs have more wins, points, a better point% and better underlying stats?

Or is it just my opinion that the Sens have a miserly owner?

Or is it just my opinion that the Leafs had one of the highest scoring group of rookies(including the calder winner) in the NHL's history last season?

Ottawa has Erik Karlsson .......leafs, Roman Polák
- D0PPELGANGER

that is not within the rules of the game
try to keep up

Well the Senators and Canucks have played two games this season .......... Ottawa recieved 3 out of 4 points, and the Canucks just 2 out of 4 ........... so head to head this season.......no.
- D0PPELGANGER

Sens won the first game in the shoot-out, and lost the second game 3-0.

Maybe check your math?

Well some leaf fans don't want to look in the recent past, such as last season, or the last 5 or 10 seasons............ or since the lockout............. so now just the last game is not a good measure for them ........ so they keep going back to preliminary playoff rounds, or cups from over 50 years ago.



So what would you suggest as a set of relevant parameters?
- D0PPELGANGER

What cups did the Sens win since the lockout?

I must've missed that season.

Sens won the first game in the shoot-out, and lost the second game 3-0.

Maybe check your math?
- Feeling Glucky?

Gluckers with the save!

i gave too much credit to d'oops thinking he remembered and mathed correctly.

NUCKS >> senaturds

Sens won the first game in the shoot-out, and lost the second game 3-0.

Maybe check your math?
- Feeling Glucky?

I believe that adds up to 2 real points plus one loser point (3) for the Nucks to 1 tie point plus 1 kind of won a gimmicky skills competition point (2) for the sens.

3 > 2, therefore, Nucks > sens.

Scoreboard.

First off ill act like a leafs fan and make a point about something that has nothing to do with hockey...you didn't hear it you read it. So that's the free bit of wisdom and knowledge for you. As for the rambling I understand your a leafs fan you don't want to hear people speaking the truth about your team. And as for rational thinking that goes out the door the second you sign up for the laffs. It goes hand in hand no one is judging you for it.
And these lessons have been about helping you see the light. If I can just bring one laffs fan back to reality thats all that matters to me.
And I wont even make a prock like spectacle of it all...

Holy poop you’re dumb.
- Feeling Glucky?

I'm honestly surprised he's managed to live this long.

First off ill act like a leafs fan and make a point about something that has nothing to do with hockey...you didn't hear it you read it. So that's the free bit of wisdom and knowledge for you. As for the rambling I understand your a leafs fan you don't want to hear people speaking the truth about your team. And as for rational thinking that goes out the door the second you sign up for the laffs. It goes hand in hand no one is judging you for it.
And these lessons have been about helping you see the light. If I can just bring one laffs fan back to reality thats all that matters to me.
And I wont even make a prock like spectacle of it all...
- daeth

Who was this?

Who was this?
- Feeling Glucky?

chardcore, though i swapped some names since it was originally an anti-hab post

chardcore, though i swapped some names since it was originally an anti-hab post
- daeth

Buddy has a screw loose.

Buddy has a screw loose.
- Feeling Glucky?

yeah he's great

Well some leaf fans don't want to look in the recent past, such as last season, or the last 5 or 10 seasons............ or since the lockout............. so now just the last game is not a good measure for them ........ so they keep going back to preliminary playoff rounds, or cups from over 50 years ago.



So what would you suggest as a set of relevant parameters?
- D0PPELGANGER

sad and weak trolling Doops.

That was an actual good play by Karlsson defensively. Granted, it was on Kopitar who was on the ice for well over a minute, but still. Good defense.