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prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
Nov 29 @ 12:36 PM ET
Have Doops and Spazzo completely disappeared?

LOL.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Nov 29 @ 1:09 PM ET
Insider Trading: Is Melnyk considering selling the Sens?



The TSN Hockey Insiders discuss the rumours circulating that owner Eugene Melnyk is considering selling the Senators, how the Sabres are willing to eat some of Evander Kane's salary to move him, how the Penguins are searching for goaltending help, whether Pittsburgh is shopping Ian Cole, and much more.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 29 @ 1:19 PM ET
Insider Trading: Is Melnyk considering selling the Sens?


- senstroll

God I hope not.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014
Nov 29 @ 1:19 PM ET
God I hope not.
- Feeling Glucky?


hopefully he asks too much and blows any potential deal up.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009
Nov 29 @ 1:23 PM ET
hopefully he asks too much and blows and potential deal up.
- Tumbleweed


What kind of idiot owner would do THAT?!?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Nov 29 @ 1:42 PM ET
God I hope not.
- Feeling Glucky?


I am curious what the Sens would sell for at this point
i think the valuation was around 350 mil a while ago, but a new team costs 500mil

an established fan base (insert joke here) 25 year old team has to have more value imo
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009
Nov 29 @ 1:52 PM ET
I am curious what the Sens would sell for at this point
i think the valuation was around 350 mil a while ago, but a new team costs 500mil

an established fan base (insert joke here) 25 year old team has to have more value imo
- senstroll


Three groups currently pursuing the Hurricanes at Karmanos' asking price of $500 million, including Dallas based billionaire Thomas Dundon. I'd guess that's about fair for Ottawa given that they have a larger established base but a much smaller potential market.

http://www.wralsportsfan....suing-franchise/17149140/
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014
Nov 29 @ 2:49 PM ET
after 6 loses in a row the sens start a tough 7 game road trip, including a trip through california.

things aren't looking good in senville.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 29 @ 10:15 PM ET
after 6 loses in a row the sens start a tough 7 game road trip, including a trip through california.

things aren't looking good in senville.
- Tumbleweed

7 losses now
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Nov 29 @ 10:16 PM ET
7 losses now
- Feeling Glucky?


7
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Nov 29 @ 10:21 PM ET
after 6 loses in a row the sens start a tough 7 game road trip, including a trip through california.

things aren't looking good in senville.
- Tumbleweed



smooth prediction.

the sens didnt really lose tonight because they have games in hand which are free points.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Nov 29 @ 10:22 PM ET
7 losses now
- Feeling Glucky?



well they have 8 wins. 8-7 record isnt too bad.

its not good either but somehow sens fans have made .500 hockey a level of excellence.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 29 @ 10:25 PM ET
well they have 8 wins. 8-7 record isnt too bad.

its not good either but somehow sens fans have made .500 hockey a level of excellence.
- systemtool

I’m very confused.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Nov 29 @ 10:26 PM ET
I’m very confused.
- Feeling Glucky?


you must have spatsd'oopsitis
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Nov 29 @ 10:35 PM ET
Well systemfool keeps on bringing up goal differential ........... as if it's the most important stat ......... and it's basically the last tie breaker.


I guess when you won't count what matters (Sens ended up with more points last year) then you make what can count (leafs had a better goal diff.) matter.


So he's in need of clarification on this issue.
- D0PPELGANGER


please..clarify.

scoring less than you allow is not a recipe for success. an ingredient for making fluke cake sure, but not success long term. it just means youre not that good even if you get lucky and over achieve. the proof is in the pudding despite the odd exception to the rule.

but your ability to ignore and dismiss this is about as impressive as a barb wire tattoo.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Nov 29 @ 10:39 PM ET
I was responding "in kind" with systemfool, who can't get past the fact that the Sens went much much deeper into the playoffs than the leafs, even though the leaf had a positive goal diff.

Funny how some leaf fans totally ignored the standing, from last year, and then this spring when the leafs have couple of more points, after two games, than the Sens, and now the Standings matter..................That's pretty gutless and pathetic don't you think?
- D0PPELGANGER


no. the standings mattered then. but the situation of both franchises did too. which is what this thread is about. i was confident that despite the standings last season the leafs would be better going forward. hence they were in a better situation.

whats gutless is abandoning this thread and this debate when the standings dont go your way..dont you think? pathetic.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Nov 29 @ 11:26 PM ET
8 wins and 15 losses. pretty decent
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017
Nov 30 @ 12:17 AM ET
Guys, calm down. In a few days time the games are going to finally start mattering.

I think you need to look at just how strongly the Sens are dealing with the short term problem of having to start the season without the planet's very best Dman in the line up. We are very pleased. We are especially pleased by all the young guys stepping up. This is a marathon, not a sprint.

Leaf fans saying same things they have always said. Sens fans knowing the real conversation starts in December. This year the Leafs will be part of the discussion. But they will lose a game before the season is over.
- spatso


Funny how at first it was the preseason where games that mattered started, but once Ottawa lost almost every preseason game it changed to the start of the regular season where games started to matter.

And now that the Sens are sucking Richard to start the season and the Leafs are playing very well, December is when games start to count?

I wonder when games will start to matter after your December deadline passes, if the Sens are still blowing chunks. February?
-GreatGigInTheSky
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
Nov 30 @ 12:36 AM ET
Lol.

Sens are bloody TRAAAAASSSSSH.

SUCH utter garbage.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Nov 30 @ 12:38 AM ET
Guys, calm down. In a few days time the games are going to finally start mattering.
- GreatGigInTheSky
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Nov 30 @ 12:39 AM ET
Have Doops and Spazzo completely disappeared?

LOL.
- prock



Disappeared is one way to put it. Ran away is another. Hiding is another.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Nov 30 @ 12:40 AM ET
God I hope not.
- Feeling Glucky?


Unless its to investors heading the Quebec team. Otherwise I agree.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Nov 30 @ 12:41 AM ET
Lol.

Sens are bloody TRAAAAASSSSSH.

SUCH utter garbage.
- prock


SpatD'oops agree. They probably haven't been around because they're filing jets fan club memberships as one of them switches teams yet again.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010
Nov 30 @ 4:27 AM ET
i know that the devils picked #1, but why is no one talking about the flyers not taking Nico? i know it was the right pick for the flyers for what they need, but Nico is the better player and nolan looks like jvr-lite.
- Tumbleweed

I'm still pissed they took Konecny over McJesus
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014
Nov 30 @ 8:05 AM ET
I'm still pissed they took Konecny over McJesus
- Nucker101


Agreed. Was a big mistake by hextall.

Another reason why the flyers < sens.
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