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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Jan 26 @ 5:30 AM ET
Nobody thinks +/- is important. But it does give you some insight. So, we have Morgan Reilly already at -4 and Thomas Chabot at +4 on the season.
- spatso



you probably shouldn't update these stats. geezer Hainsey +12. Karlsson -24.

some insight.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Jan 26 @ 5:30 AM ET
Need I remind you that the Sens are one of only two teams, that have not lost a game in regulation?

Also, the Senators are ranked third overall in the NHL, in P%......... so is it a "decent start" or the second best start in the NHL?

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...ayed,gte,1&sort=pointPctg
- D0PPELGANGER


wow. impressive.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Jan 26 @ 5:37 AM ET
All you could post about, since the leaf were bounced from the playoffs, all through the summer, was "Sens had a negative goal differential!!!!!"

It's all you had to hang your hat on, because the Sens finished in home ice playoff seed, and played three rounds, and came within whisker of advancing to the Stanley Cup finals for the second time in 10 years, by taking the Penguins to seven games, double overtime and one goal from eliminating the eventual Stanley Cup winner ................ and all summer long the only thing you could post about was "Sens had a negative goal differential!!!!!"

And now when Spatso doesn't post after a Sens shout out loss, or a leafs win ........ you berate him for not talking scoreboard .................. so now that the shoe is now on the other foot, and you go into silent mode, because your biggest chip in the pot ......."Sens had a negative goal differential!!!!!" ............... is no longer in play.

If you dish it out, you should be able to take it.
- D0PPELGANGER



oh shut up you twat. keep pretending goal differential is irrelevant. my points been proven. last season was a mirage for a team that cant score more than they allow. (frank)ing basic poop here d'oops. that's how sports works. score more than you allow and you win. do it consistently enough and youre a good to great team.

ill be dishing like a diner. you just stay in the kitchen and wash the dirty plates that come your way.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Jan 26 @ 5:39 AM ET




BTW, it's just 5 games, but these are good indicators.

Penalty Kill 100%
Team xGF% (all situations): 51.43%
Bobby Ryan: on for 10 GF, 0 GA
Fredrik Claesson avg. TOI: 21:01
Penalty Differential: +14
- D0PPELGANGER


what did they indicate?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008
Jan 26 @ 8:00 AM ET
what did they indicate?
- systemtool



39 points at end of Jan 2018....
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jan 26 @ 8:04 AM ET
what did they indicate?
- systemtool

I get some of the positive indicators... even if they’re a bit premature.. but how in the world does anyone think Claesson getting that much time is a positive??
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jan 26 @ 8:08 AM ET
I get some of the positive indicators... even if they’re a bit premature.. but how in the world does anyone think Claesson getting that much time is a positive??
- Feeling Glucky?


no kidding

None of those are an indicator of much at all, esp after 5 games.
expected goals maybe, but I assume he used all situations because 5v5 wasnt as flattering. all situations exgf% after 5 games...not much value
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jan 26 @ 9:57 AM ET
the Last place 2015-16 poopty Leafs who lost on purpose and drafted Auston Matthews had 69 points

The Trying to win now, traded 1st round picks away 2017-18 Ottawa Senators are on pace for 68 points

Discuss
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005
Jan 26 @ 9:58 AM ET
welp, dErps. looks like you're losing.

again.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014
Jan 26 @ 10:00 AM ET
the Last place 2015-16 poopty Leafs who lost on purpose and drafted Auston Matthews had 69 points

The Trying to win now, traded 1st round picks away 2017-18 Ottawa Senators are on pace for 68 points

Discuss
- senstroll


at 3rd last, the sens have a 69% chance of drafting outside the top 3.

http://www.tankathon.com/nhl
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Jan 26 @ 10:00 AM ET
the Last place 2015-16 poopty Leafs who lost on purpose and drafted Auston Matthews had 69 points

The Trying to win now, traded 1st round picks away 2017-18 Ottawa Senators are on pace for 68 points

Discuss
- senstroll

at least they've looked better lately

oh, sorry. i thought it said 5 wins in a row but it's actually been 5 losses. i am so embarrassed.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Jan 26 @ 10:02 AM ET
just ran the simulator



5th overall? well that wouldn't be good considering toronto's tank season got them matthews. way better situation in toronto during their tank year.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jan 26 @ 10:02 AM ET
at 3rd last, the sens have a 69% chance of drafting outside the top 3.

http://www.tankathon.com/nhl
- Tumbleweed



I just ran it and Chicago moved up 9 spots to draft#1

That feels like what will happen if they miss the playoffs, might as well give them Dahlin for the fans misery of missing the playoffs and not winning another cup
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014
Jan 26 @ 12:30 PM ET
Playoff push coming

Elliotte Friedman

@FriedgeHNIC

OTT claims Paajarvi
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017
Jan 26 @ 12:34 PM ET
sooooooo gooooood!
- systemtool


I think my favourite part is that the Sens got worse once Karlsson came back.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jan 26 @ 12:35 PM ET
I think my favourite part is that the Sens got worse once Karlsson came back.
- GreatGigInTheSky


and upgraded by trading Turris and a 1st for Dewshane
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017
Jan 26 @ 12:40 PM ET
oh shut up you twat. keep pretending goal differential is irrelevant. my points been proven. last season was a mirage for a team that cant score more than they allow. (frank)ing basic poop here d'oops. that's how sports works. score more than you allow and you win. do it consistently enough and youre a good to great team.

ill be dishing like a diner. you just stay in the kitchen and wash the dirty plates that come your way.
- systemtool


Live look at systemtool after murdering spazzo & D'oops again-
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014
Jan 26 @ 12:42 PM ET
and upgraded by trading Turris, bowers and a 1st for Dewshane
- senstroll


fixed
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011
Jan 26 @ 1:51 PM ET
Playoff push coming

Elliotte Friedman

@FriedgeHNIC

OTT claims Paajarvi
- Tumbleweed

The Sens are back baby
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005
Jan 26 @ 2:38 PM ET
The Sens are back baby
- walshyleafsfan

everyone's gonna feel so poopty when dErps and the other guy get the last word after all.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006
Jan 26 @ 3:49 PM ET
the Last place 2015-16 poopty Leafs who lost on purpose and drafted Auston Matthews had 69 points

The Trying to win now, traded 1st round picks away 2017-18 Ottawa Senators are on pace for 68 points

Discuss
- senstroll


Wait, is that the same team whose coach and general manager thought were going to add the 3 of the 2 best players not in the NHL and then go FURTHER than last year?

I guess, in hindsight, by "further", they might have meant "further away from contending"?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006
Jan 26 @ 3:50 PM ET
at least they've looked better lately

oh, sorry. i thought it said 5 wins in a row but it's actually been 5 losses. i am so embarrassed.
- daeth
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006
Jan 26 @ 3:51 PM ET
I think my favourite part is that the Sens got worse once Karlsson came back.
- GreatGigInTheSky


Your favourite part will be when reality sets in around year 2 of the new 10+ million contract they give Karlsson.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006
Jan 26 @ 3:53 PM ET
Tool has enough of their lunch money now that he can probably retire.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Jan 26 @ 7:55 PM ET
the sens. for having the 95 best prospects not to be able to play the nhl.
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