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prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
Dec 30 @ 12:29 PM ET
Back on Leafs vs Sens...

One is 2nd overall, the other is 30th overall.


Who coulda seen that coming?
- Feeling Glucky?



certainly not spatso.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017
Dec 30 @ 6:08 PM ET
Back on Leafs vs Sens...

One is 2nd overall, the other is 30th overall.


Who coulda seen that coming?
- Feeling Glucky?


Well, at least they can rebuild their team with a top prospect in this draft.

It is a pretty deep draft. So in a couple years, Ottawa could be back in it.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
Jan 1 @ 9:35 AM ET
So with the sens in last place and their first round pick traded, would one say this is a bigger disaster than the kassel trade? Especially considering duchene will probably jump ship? And it could very well be first overall? And duchene sucks compared to kessel as well?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006
Jan 1 @ 12:55 PM ET
Well, at least they can rebuild their team with a top prospect in this draft.

It is a pretty deep draft. So in a couple years, Ottawa could be back in it.
- GreatGigInTheSky


uh
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jan 1 @ 3:23 PM ET
Well, at least they can rebuild their team with a top prospect in this draft.

It is a pretty deep draft. So in a couple years, Ottawa could be back in it.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Who would have thought that giving away your first the same year you're giving away your most important player, as well as one of your top scorers might not be a good idea?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jan 5 @ 11:25 PM ET
Sens last. No 1st. (frank)ing clown show.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
Jan 6 @ 7:01 AM ET
Sens last. No 1st. (frank)ing clown show.
- senstroll



Such a trash organization. Utter garbage.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016
Jan 6 @ 10:46 AM ET
Such a trash organization. Utter garbage.
- prock



Today @ 10:31 AM ET
Duchene is turning 28 in 10 days.

He'll be 30.5 years old just two years into signing his deal.

The Sens won't be contending for at least the next 3 years - likely 5. There's no point in signing him - in fact, it makes most sense for him to be moved so Sens can have a better pick in 2020, 2021, and possibly 2022 - although I think by then the Sens will want to compete for a playoff spot.

The Sens need to stop getting picks 6-21 and go for nothing less than top 5 picks; problem is they don't have their own this year !

Let's say Sens end up getting the 1st pick, here's what the trade looks like:

What they gave up:

Kyle Turris
Shane Bowers - 1st in 2017
Jack Hughes - 1st in 2019
3rd round pick in 2019

What they have:

Whatever they have to show for Duchene July 2019

Alfieisking
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012
Jan 6 @ 1:12 PM ET

- winsix

That trade is the gift that keeps on giving. Just not for Sens fans.

Happy new year everyone. Even spazzderps.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005
Jan 6 @ 1:20 PM ET
That trade is the gift that keeps on giving. Just not for Sens fans.

Happy new year everyone. Even spazzderps.
- BlueBallz


every time the thread lights up i hope it's dErps back to cry like he did that day he came back and cried "yep, same bumholes and their stupid truth" or however he worded it.

man that was a fun post.
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012
Jan 6 @ 1:39 PM ET
every time the thread lights up i hope it's dErps back to cry like he did that day he came back and cried "yep, same bumholes and their stupid truth" or however he worded it.

man that was a fun post.
- kicksave856

Good times, kicker. Good times.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
Jan 6 @ 10:11 PM ET

Its at least a 5 year process for the sens to dig themselves out of the hole theyve dug.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006
Jan 6 @ 10:43 PM ET
Its at least a 5 year process for the sens to dig themselves out of the hole theyve dug.
- prock

not unlike the position TO was in when this thread started
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
Jan 7 @ 11:16 AM ET
not unlike the position TO was in when this thread started
- Pie


The Leafs were not in a good spot, no. But quite frankly, no, the Sens are far worse off.

Yes, the Leafs traded two first round picks. But had Kessel to show for it. The Sens have traded what could be the first overall, and basically have nothing to show for it.

They have no money to even pay any decent players if they wanted to sign them. But that doesn't matter because there are no players that actually want to play there. Not even the ones that ARE playing there.

Ownership is a mess. so is the dressing room.

Fans won't come to the games, they've tarped over seats.

Oh and their arena is out in the middle of nowhere, and there is no hope of that changing any time soon because the owner is fighting with the city and developers building downtown.

I could go on. the Sens are a nightmare, the likes of which the NHL hasn't seen in decades.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006
Jan 7 @ 6:58 PM ET
not unlike the position TO was in when this thread started
- Pie


fairly close, but even T.O didn't have the heaping pile of gong show that the Sens do now.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010
Jan 7 @ 7:42 PM ET
not unlike the position TO was in when this thread started
- Pie

yeah basically the same really, outside of ownership of course
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007
Jan 7 @ 11:19 PM ET
The Leafs were not in a good spot, no. But quite frankly, no, the Sens are far worse off.

Yes, the Leafs traded two first round picks. But had Kessel to show for it. The Sens have traded what could be the first overall, and basically have nothing to show for it.

They have no money to even pay any decent players if they wanted to sign them. But that doesn't matter because there are no players that actually want to play there. Not even the ones that ARE playing there.

Ownership is a mess. so is the dressing room.

Fans won't come to the games, they've tarped over seats.

Oh and their arena is out in the middle of nowhere, and there is no hope of that changing any time soon because the owner is fighting with the city and developers building downtown.

I could go on. the Sens are a nightmare, the likes of which the NHL hasn't seen in decades.
- prock

at least you went for a coherent argument this time
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
Jan 22 @ 1:01 PM ET
Leafs
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
Jan 22 @ 1:01 PM ET
Leafs
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
Jan 22 @ 1:01 PM ET
Leafs
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
Jan 22 @ 1:01 PM ET
Leafs
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jan 22 @ 3:26 PM ET
I miss the good ol days when Spatso and Dopps would make fools of themselves on a daily basis
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
Jan 22 @ 3:31 PM ET
I miss the good ol days when Spatso and Dopps would make fools of themselves on a daily basis


- senstroll



I only even recognize one of those guys.

Their entire defense is basically pulled from beer league.

spazzo and dopps are in hiding.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005
Jan 22 @ 3:36 PM ET
I miss the good ol days when Spatso and Dopps would make fools of themselves on a daily basis


- senstroll

pretty sure top left is the kid from irobot playing freddie mercury.



EDIT: mr.robot.

i robot is a vacuum or something.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010
Jan 22 @ 3:38 PM ET
pretty sure top left is the kid from irobot playing freddie mercury.
- kicksave856


which ones are crims and s2tp?
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