What was I wrong about? Did the leafs not lose to a zamboni driver?
- sensarmy_11

you said the debate is over and leafs/sens hasn't been a debate in years except in like 3 people's minds on this website lol

oh, then you insinuated this was an alt account of a leafs fan.


those were the things you were wrong about.

- D0PPELGANGER

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...hp?thread_id=57175&page=2

Let's be honest, this Leafs lovefest of the past couple of years is fading quickly. At this pace in another year or two the Sens may actually be in a better position.....just like they were when the thread began?

Let's be honest, this Leafs lovefest of the past couple of years is fading quickly. At this pace in another year or two the Sens may actually be in a better position.....just like they were when the thread began?
- golfingsince

i can't wait to bust some of these same leaf fans' balls for acting the same way when it does turn around.

i can't wait to bust some of these same leaf fans' balls for acting the same way when it does turn around.
- kicksave856

It really is a thread about who is less retarded.

It really is a thread about who is less retarded.
- golfingsince

these same sens fans that hate me right now will be my best friends.

these same sens fans that hate me right now will be my best friends.
- kicksave856

Daeth will be heartbroken.

Daeth will be heartbroken.
- golfingsince

im a flyers fan now

im a flyers fan now
- daeth

Let's be honest, this Leafs lovefest of the past couple of years is fading quickly. At this pace in another year or two the Sens may actually be in a better position.....just like they were when the thread began?
- golfingsince

Given management, ownership, team, budget, arena, fans, city, among a few other things, im not so sure they can ever truly be in a better situation.

standings don't matter
rosters don't matter
salary cap doesn't matter
money doesn't matter

the ONLY thing that matters in this debate is that the leafs just LOST TO THEIR OWN (frank)ING AHL ZAMBONI DRIVER!!!!!!!!!

this is like "1967, 4-1 lead, game 7 collapse, 15 years no playoffs" and every other leafs debacle all rolled up into one.
- sensarmy_11

There is s tarp over half the seats in the senaturds arena.
Owner claims hes calling a forensic investigator
3 straight captains jumped ship because of the pathetic team
The gladiator opening
Redblacks better attendance
Hanging banners for another team
Asking players for uber money
Players recorded laughing at coaches in uber
Owner delinquent on gambling debts
Crappy arena in suburbs
Hires leafs defensive coach after criticizing leafs defensive play
Fires 3 coaches in 5 years
Big promo sends "fans" to belleville


Off the top of my head. There are many more. Id say the senaturds have set the gold standard for being embarrassing.

- D0PPELGANGER

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...hp?thread_id=57175&page=2

There is s tarp over half the seats in the senaturds arena.
Owner claims hes calling a forensic investigator
3 straight captains jumped ship because of the pathetic team
The gladiator opening
Redblacks better attendance
Hanging banners for another team
Asking players for uber money
Players recorded laughing at coaches in uber
Owner delinquent on gambling debts
Crappy arena in suburbs
Hires leafs defensive coach after criticizing leafs defensive play
Fires 3 coaches in 5 years
Big promo sends "fans" to belleville


Off the top of my head. There are many more. Id say the senaturds have set the gold standard for being embarrassing.
- prock

leafs lost to an AHL Zamboni driver..........if you added the above together, and multiplied it by 3 million, it's still not as bad as losing to an AHL Zamboni driver who plays in a Friday night men's league.

leafs lost to an AHL Zamboni driver..........if you added the above together, and multiplied it by 3 million, it's still not as bad as losing to an AHL Zamboni driver who plays in a Friday night men's league.
- sensarmy_11

yeah, it is as bad.

See, no matter how much you enjoy this (rightfully so) it is still ONE game.

... not that they aren't embarrassing themselves every other game it seems, but even that doesn't approach the depth of issues facing the Sens.

yeah, it is as bad.

See, no matter how much you enjoy this (rightfully so) it is still ONE game.

... not that they aren't embarrassing themselves every other game it seems, but even that doesn't approach the depth of issues facing the Sens.
- Aetherial

didn't you see? none of the issues facing them matters! lol




(also, don't hate me, but i enjoyed it too!)

didn't you see? none of the issues facing them matters! lol




(also, don't hate me, but i enjoyed it too!)
- kicksave856

That was just off the top of my head. The sens had a "days since last emabarrassment" counter and it occasionally would reset when it was still at 0 days. Luterally back to back embarrassments.

If someone put some time into it you could easily come up with a list several pages long, that makes even the time harold ballard owned the leafs look like a cakewalk.

That was just off the top of my head. The sens had a "days since last emabarrassment" counter and it occasionally would reset when it was still at 0 days. Luterally back to back embarrassments.

If someone put some time into it you could easily come up with a list several pages long, that makes even the time harold ballard owned the leafs look like a cakewalk.
- prock

i loved the ballard-era jerseys. i hate you guys and i bought one just because i thought it was such a cool jersey.

i got fuhr so that people know i'm not a real fan of the team.

i loved the ballard-era jerseys. i hate you guys and i bought one just because i thought it was such a cool jersey.

i got fuhr so that people know i'm not a real fan of the team.
- kicksave856

Lol you may have liked the jerseys but the team wasnt so good.

Another 5 minutes of thought....

Randy lee gay sexual harrassment
Wives of players infighting and harrassing
"We are a team"
Terrible dman interviews owner
Lebreton flats lawsuits
Ukranian fake PR twitter accounts
Senaturds baby apparel recalled because of it being a choking hazard.
Didnt they run some PR thing a while ago that was misprinted and said the wrong stuff?

Thats not even counting the embarassments pisters like doops and spazzo bring.

didn't you see? none of the issues facing them matters! lol




(also, don't hate me, but i enjoyed it too!)
- kicksave856

I enjoyed it also.


While I will always cheer for the team, I am not a huge fan of the players on the Leafs at this point. I find very little to like about this group.

I enjoyed it also.


While I will always cheer for the team, I am not a huge fan of the players on the Leafs at this point. I find very little to like about this group.
- Aetherial

I like marner and rielly.

That goalie ayres, seems like a good guy. You see the dressing room videos?

Alfredsson on whether the sens can come back from a 3-1 playoff series deficit: "probably not"

Now thats a captain!

I enjoyed it also.


While I will always cheer for the team, I am not a huge fan of the players on the Leafs at this point. I find very little to like about this group.
- Aetherial

i don't watch a lot of their games unless they're playing the flyers or unless someone tells me something is going on in a leafs game and then i'll pop it on the computer or whatever so i don't really know any of the ins and outs but i feel like a couple good defensemen and a little more maturity/responsibility out of some of the forwards and the leafs could be very dangerous. gotta admit they have a lot of talented players and i don't like it.

i don't watch a lot of their games unless they're playing the flyers or unless someone tells me something is going on in a leafs game and then i'll pop it on the computer or whatever so i don't really know any of the ins and outs but i feel like a couple good defensemen and a little more maturity/responsibility out of some of the forwards and the leafs could be very dangerous. gotta admit they have a lot of talented players and i don't like it.
- kicksave856

They are tough to like because only a couple players ever appear to give a poop... and it isn't an illusion that they don't care. There is really no other explanation for their level of compete most nights.

They are tough to like because only a couple players ever appear to give a poop... and it isn't an illusion that they don't care. There is really no other explanation for their level of compete most nights.
- Aetherial

put them in those 80's jerseys and i bet they'd thrive.

looking good is feeling good!

didn't you see? none of the issues facing them matters! lol




(also, don't hate me, but i enjoyed it too!)
- kicksave856

other than a bad owner, which of those issues are even relevant today? some of them happened more than a decade ago....

Ottawa has a bad owner, which has led to poor attendance......other than that, I'm perfectly happy with where this team is....they're rebuilding properly. maybe the owner impacts that later, if he still owns the team by then, but that's a future problem that may or may not occur.

the fact that the leafs are imploding, and lost to a Zamboni driver is 100% relevant and happened 3 days ago, not 12 years ago