other than a bad owner, which of those issues are even relevant today? some of them happened more than a decade ago....

Ottawa has a bad owner, which has led to poor attendance......other than that, I'm perfectly happy with where this team is....they're rebuilding properly. maybe the owner impacts that later, if he still owns the team by then, but that's a future problem that may or may not occur.

the fact that the leafs are imploding, and lost to a Zamboni driver is 100% relevant and happened 3 days ago, not 12 years ago
- sensarmy_11

look i never give you a hard time like i do the other two but i busted your balls because you said the "debate" was over. you can make fun of them for the other night just like the rest of us did but trying to equate it to the "debate" is silly. trust me, we can all see that you guys are hurting and desperate but the leafs losing in incredibly embarrassing fashion doesn't change the fact that they're way better than the sens and have been for at least, what, 3 years now?

i thought they were like 12 points ahead of you guys then i looked and it's like 19 or something. you just gotta know when to fold em, bro.

is this the part where you decide this is an alt account again?

look i never give you a hard time like i do the other two but i busted your balls because you said the "debate" was over. you can make fun of them for the other night just like the rest of us did but trying to equate it to the "debate" is silly. trust me, we can all see that you guys are hurting and desperate but the leafs losing in incredibly embarrassing fashion doesn't change the fact that they're way better than the sens and have been for at least, what, 3 years now?

i thought they were like 12 points ahead of you guys then i looked and it's like 19 or something. you just gotta know when to fold em, bro.

is this the part where you decide this is an alt account again?
- kicksave856

obviously the comment was tongue in cheek. the senators obviously have issues, but losing to your own Zamboni driver is the absolute epitome of humiliating. for all the poop that leaf fans talk on this site, and on this thread particularly....they absolutely deserve to have that fact thrown in their face.

i'm in no way debating that the leafs, right now, are a better team on the ice than Ottawa......hell, the current roster at the NHL level is not quite, but close, to as much of an abomination as the current red wings roster. the difference is that the sens have done it deliberately in an attempt to rebuild.....and so far they're doing it right. but yes, they are very very very bad at the NHL level right now.....no doubt.

look back 3-4 years, Ottawa was about 15-20pts ahead of the leafs in the standings........that poop can turn around REALLY fast. Ottawa has problems, no dobut, but the leafs have a poop load of them too.

obviously the comment was tongue in cheek. the senators obviously have issues, but losing to your own Zamboni driver is the absolute epitome of humiliating. for all the poop that leaf fans talk on this site, and on this thread particularly....they absolutely deserve to have that fact thrown in their face.

i'm in no way debating that the leafs, right now, are a better team on the ice than Ottawa......hell, the current roster at the NHL level is not quite, but close, to as much of an abomination as the current red wings roster. the difference is that the sens have done it deliberately in an attempt to rebuild.....and so far they're doing it right. but yes, they are very very very bad at the NHL level right now.....no doubt.

look back 3-4 years, Ottawa was about 15-20pts ahead of the leafs in the standings........that poop can turn around REALLY fast. Ottawa has problems, no dobut, but the leafs have a poop load of them too.
- sensarmy_11

that last paragraph is true and i've tried explaining it before. that's how sports work. eventually the sens will be ahead of the leafs and then if leaf fans act like retards i'll bust their balls too. i'm sure there will be a few of them who are stupid enough to try talking about draft picks when the sens are 15-20 points ahead of them in the standings too. but for now, there is no debate to be over.

you guys are emotionally invested and that's why you don't see how silly it is to compare teams right now.

don't let yourself get carried away to the point of the other two idiots so that you don't look as bad as they do. surely you understand how bad dErps looks. how he's destroyed his own credibility, and how he has made it so nobody can take him seriously. you don't want to end up like him.

sens army and i have taken our conversation to PMs and now we're best friends yukking it up and everything.

maybe a few of you guys should do this in PMs lol.

sens army and i have taken our conversation to PMs and now we're best friends yukking it up and everything.

maybe a few of you guys should do this in PMs lol.
- kicksave856

- sensarmy_11

other than a bad owner, which of those issues are even relevant today? some of them happened more than a decade ago....

Ottawa has a bad owner, which has led to poor attendance......other than that, I'm perfectly happy with where this team is....they're rebuilding properly. maybe the owner impacts that later, if he still owns the team by then, but that's a future problem that may or may not occur.

the fact that the leafs are imploding, and lost to a Zamboni driver is 100% relevant and happened 3 days ago, not 12 years ago
- sensarmy_11

I agree, even when the senaturds pick up a few players in the draft, and aren't bottom of the barrel bad like they are now, they are still an embarrassment.

sens army and i have taken our conversation to PMs and now we're best friends yukking it up and everything.

maybe a few of you guys should do this in PMs lol.
- kicksave856

the sens suck. you suck. sensarmy sucks.

just a buncha sucks really and it sucks.

the sens suck. you suck. sensarmy sucks.

just a buncha sucks really and it sucks.
- daeth

cheer up, friend.

cheer up, friend.
- kicksave856

the dankruptcy scare last night has rattled me to my core

the dankruptcy scare last night has rattled me to my core
- daeth

i would have run some over to your house.

that's just the kind of friend you have in kicksave856.

i would have run some over to your house.

that's just the kind of friend you have in kicksave856.
- kicksave856

you know you're in deep when you can lose track of ~12g with as much ease as i can

omg, I am going to be laughing so hard at all these posts in June when Nylander is hoisting the Cup

Cant Wait!

omg, I am going to be laughing so hard at all these posts in June when Nylander is hoisting the Cup

Cant Wait!
- senstroll

the funny thing is, it's rarely the teams that are way ahead in the standings, in October, or even January, that win the cup. Usually there is a front runner, early in the year, everyone goes gaga about, that flames out early. My opinion, this year that's the Bruins. Do I think the Leafs can win the cup? Yeah, but highly unlikely. The room they have because of injuries has left some space to make some moves on defense though. I wouldn't blow much (in terms of assets) trying to make a run at the cup, but it's not impossible either.

In my opinion, it's the Lightning's turn. They're playing their best hockey at the right time, instead of previous years when they're 20 points ahead in the standings by December.

the funny thing is, it's rarely the teams that are way ahead in the standings, in October, or even January, that win the cup. Usually there is a front runner, early in the year, everyone goes gaga about, that flames out early. My opinion, this year that's the Bruins. Do I think the Leafs can win the cup? Yeah, but highly unlikely. The room they have because of injuries has left some space to make some moves on defense though. I wouldn't blow much (in terms of assets) trying to make a run at the cup, but it's not impossible either.

In my opinion, it's the Lightning's turn. They're playing their best hockey at the right time, instead of previous years when they're 20 points ahead in the standings by December.
- prock

is it usually the teams that lose to Zamboni drivers in February?

asking for a friend

is it usually the teams that lose to Zamboni drivers in February?

asking for a friend
- sensarmy_11

Well it's definitely not teams completely devoid of talent that are 19 points behind teams that lose to Zamboni drivers, with owners that pillage the team for money, in cities that nobody wants to live in, for a team with few to no fans (second to a CFL franchise apparently), no proper arena, banners manufactured in the 90s for cups won by another franchise, that hires the coaching scraps for that zamboni losing team, and led by the castoffs of that zamboni losing team.

Definitely a better chance to the zamboni losing team.

Well it's definitely not teams completely devoid of talent that are 19 points behind teams that lose to Zamboni drivers, with owners that pillage the team for money, in cities that nobody wants to live in, for a team with few to no fans (second to a CFL franchise apparently), no proper arena, banners manufactured in the 90s for cups won by another franchise, that hires the coaching scraps for that zamboni losing team, and led by the castoffs of that zamboni losing team.

Definitely a better chance to the zamboni losing team.
- prock

I love that you have to refer to banners and insulting the city, so that you can avoid admitting that your team is a raging tire fire too.

I've acknowledged that my team is bad right now....but at least they're heading in the right direction. your amazing team already has 77 million committed next year, basically meaning there is no room to improve on being a team that loses to a Zamboni driver.

enjoy focusing on banners and CFL teams while your expensive team with zero character or "give a damn" continues to flounder as a playoff bubble team and easy 1st round exit.

Well it's definitely not teams completely devoid of talent that are 19 points behind teams that lose to Zamboni drivers, with owners that pillage the team for money, in cities that nobody wants to live in, for a team with few to no fans (second to a CFL franchise apparently), no proper arena, banners manufactured in the 90s for cups won by another franchise, that hires the coaching scraps for that zamboni losing team, and led by the castoffs of that zamboni losing team.

Definitely a better chance to the zamboni losing team.
- prock

is it usually the teams that lose to Zamboni drivers in February?

asking for a friend
- sensarmy_11

pretty sure its the first time to happen, so I will let you know

Stay tuned!

I love that you have to refer to banners and insulting the city, so that you can avoid admitting that your team is a raging tire fire too.

I've acknowledged that my team is bad right now....but at least they're heading in the right direction. your amazing team already has 77 million committed next year, basically meaning there is no room to improve on being a team that loses to a Zamboni driver.

enjoy focusing on banners and CFL teams while your expensive team with zero character or "give a damn" continues to flounder as a playoff bubble team and easy 1st round exit.
- sensarmy_11

i hate that we're close friends now so i have to let you have this.

- sensarmy_11

what in the (frank) is this, cant someone crop a photo?

- sensarmy_11

i know it's passe to buy one but i really do want a chiefs jersey.

they're like 15 bucks from china! i should just do it.

what in the (frank) is this, cant someone crop a photo?
- senstroll

I blame the internet......I just copy/paste

i know it's passe to buy one but i really do want a chiefs jersey.

they're like 15 bucks from china! i should just do it.
- kicksave856

I have a hanson one.....I LOVE it

i hate that we're close friends now so i have to let you have this.
- kicksave856