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sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009
Apr 10 @ 12:23 PM ET
Revenue and profit numbers please.
- BingoLady


ummmmmm, this might not be official, but here you go.

leafs - a (frank)ing poop ton

sens - not even close to as much
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009
Apr 10 @ 12:26 PM ET
Unfortunately, it does.

The Leafs have been irrelevant for the last 10 years when it comes to the on ice product. Wether you accept it or not, it's a fact.


Edit: or you could say the Jackets made the playoffs twice in the last 10 years, something the Leafs haven't done. But yeah, I'm the idiot here.
- Pecafan Fan

they took Boston to 7th game OT Round 1 last year therefore they are relevant again.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
Apr 10 @ 12:28 PM ET
i think it's the same one, didn't see where they talked about sale vs re-sale, but you could be right.........still, i doubt the actual rankings change that much. i'm pretty confident that ottawa is right in the middle of the pack in terms of ticket price. but you are right, they're probably the lowest among canadian teams.
- sensarmy_11



Of the league? Yes. you have to be careful in reading too much in to that though, when a huge portion of expenses are in US$. Even with a 10% dollar fluctuation the wrong way, it can hit profits pretty hard, and being in the middle of the league for that isn't as rosy as it may sound.

I doubt they're losing money. But I also think given the ticket prices, attendance, dollar, etc, they're not making too much either.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007
Apr 10 @ 12:29 PM ET
they took Boston to 7th game OT Round 1 last year therefore they are relevant again.
- BingoLady

Or, no multiple-cup-winning original 6 team with the longest cup drought in professional hockey will ever be irrelevant. how about that?
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009
Apr 10 @ 12:30 PM ET
Or, no multiple-cup-winning original 6 team with the longest cup drought in professional hockey will ever be irrelevant. how about that?
- Morris

and largest fan base.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009
Apr 10 @ 12:30 PM ET
Of the league? Yes. you have to be careful in reading too much in to that though, when a huge portion of expenses are in US$. Even with a 10% dollar fluctuation the wrong way, it can hit profits pretty hard, and being in the middle of the league for that isn't as rosy as it may sound.

I doubt they're losing money. But I also think given the ticket prices, attendance, dollar, etc, they're not making too much either.
- prock


oh, i'm not claiming that they're making money hand over fist............i'm just saying that melnyk's claims that the team has lost something like 250 million since he bought them is complete bullpoop.

maybe HE personally lost that much, but it had nothing to do with the team.
Mr_Squeaks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Location: Location: Glitch in
Joined: 06.26.2006
Apr 10 @ 12:40 PM ET
oh, i'm not claiming that they're making money hand over fist............i'm just saying that melnyk's claims that the team has lost something like 250 million since he bought them is complete bullpoop.

maybe HE personally lost that much, but it had nothing to do with the team.
- sensarmy_11


Melnyk is like the guy who fills his car up with office supplies and then complains that there are never any yellow stickies around when he needs one.
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007
Apr 10 @ 1:01 PM ET
I think he was saying "prove that disagreeing with the facts won't change them"

- Morris

prove it in lengthy detail
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Apr 10 @ 1:06 PM ET
Unfortunately, it does.

The Leafs have been irrelevant for the last 10 years when it comes to the on ice product. Wether you accept it or not, it's a fact.


Edit: or you could say the Jackets made the playoffs twice in the last 10 years, something the Leafs haven't done. But yeah, I'm the idiot here.
- Pecafan Fan


the jackets have built a decent team it seems .. decent corsi
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Apr 10 @ 1:07 PM ET
the jackets have built a decent team it seems .. decent corsi
- senstroll


Irrelevant.

Idiot.

-prock
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008
Apr 10 @ 1:17 PM ET
No post expansion cups lol
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008
Apr 10 @ 1:21 PM ET
Haha, top shelf was trying to say that the new regional tv deal would allow the Sens to be the highest spending team in the league.



Ticket prices would be a pretty good indication of fan base size(by way of demand for tickets), so I'd say the smallest fan base in Canada is going to have a difficult time signing a broadcast deal bigger than a team like the leafs, who actually have their own station.....
- prock
The leafs,ottawa probably generates 100 mil total.anyhow just sick of us ontario teams getting the shaft through incompetiance from ownership
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Apr 10 @ 1:40 PM ET
Irrelevant.

Idiot.

-prock
- Pecafan Fan
hamiltonhabfan
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 02.17.2009
Apr 10 @ 2:46 PM ET
120 pages of who stinks more....great stuff
hamiltonhabfan
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 02.17.2009
Apr 10 @ 2:49 PM ET
they took Boston to 7th game OT Round 1 last year therefore they are relevant again.
- BingoLady



meh half season don't count
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009
Apr 10 @ 2:55 PM ET
meh half season don't count
- hamiltonhabfan

*
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008
Apr 10 @ 3:02 PM ET
120 pages of who stinks more....great stuff
- hamiltonhabfan
Habs fans so smug ,u will be joining us sooner than you guys think
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009
Apr 10 @ 3:05 PM ET
Habs fans so smug ,u will be joining us sooner than you guys think

- top shelf 15

and that changes the fact only the Habs made the playoffs this season from all Canadian based teams?
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008
Apr 10 @ 3:14 PM ET
and that changes the fact only the Habs made the playoffs this season from all Canadian based teams?
- BingoLady

I'm sure you guys wont boast too much in regards to this.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Apr 10 @ 3:19 PM ET
I'm sure you guys wont boast too much in regards to this.
- Cape Breton Bruins


Not after a 4 game sweep to the hands of the Bolts, no.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008
Apr 10 @ 3:23 PM ET
Not after a 4 game sweep to the hands of the Bolts, no.
- Pecafan Fan

Habs in 6
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009
Apr 10 @ 3:34 PM ET
Not after a 4 game sweep to the hands of the Bolts, no.
- Pecafan Fan

whatabout a 6 game win then get swept by Boston?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Apr 10 @ 3:37 PM ET
whatabout a 6 game win then get swept by Boston?
- BingoLady


Same difference.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
Apr 10 @ 3:54 PM ET
I'm sure you guys wont boast too much in regards to this.
- Cape Breton Bruins



If it were the Sens they'd be raising a banner. Hell, even if there were another team in Ottawa that managed it, they'd raise a banner.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009
Apr 10 @ 3:56 PM ET
If it were the Sens they'd be raising a banner. Hell, even if there were another team in Ottawa that managed it, they'd raise a banner.
- prock


says the fan of the team who's president publicly stated that they were planning a cup parade only a few games into the season.
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