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the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007
Jan 27 @ 10:50 AM ET
Leafs, easily
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Jan 27 @ 10:55 AM ET
what are you basing this off of?
- senstroll


I said that it's not unthinkable. Not that he's indeed an ass.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jan 27 @ 11:45 AM ET
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2015/1/22/7867635/david-clarkson-is-a-balrog-he-cannot-pass

That's incredibly depressing even if you're not a Leafs fan.

Holy poop!
- Pecafan Fan
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006
Jan 27 @ 11:49 AM ET
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2015/1/22/7867635/david-clarkson-is-a-balrog-he-cannot-pass

That's incredibly depressing even if you're not a Leafs fan.

Holy shit!
- Pecafan Fan


http://www.pensionplanpup...s-a-balrog-he-cannot-pass
WOW!
Mr_Squeaks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Location: Location: Glitch in
Joined: 06.26.2006
Jan 27 @ 11:59 AM ET
maybe he is just awkward and not comfortable in social situations.
- senstroll


That might be what made me feel a bit sorry for him - I'm also awkward and not comfortable in social situations...
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006
Jan 27 @ 12:02 PM ET
That might be what made me feel a bit sorry for him - I'm also awkward and not comfortable in social situations...
- Mr_Squeaks


Most people are, but won't admit to it.

I used to be, but once I realized that it's mostly a perception that you exaggerate about yourself, it's easy to move beyond it.
Mr_Squeaks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Location: Location: Glitch in
Joined: 06.26.2006
Jan 27 @ 12:10 PM ET
Most people are, but won't admit to it.

I used to be, but once I realized that it's mostly a perception that you exaggerate about yourself, it's easy to move beyond it.
- Doppleganger


Oh absolutely, it's the avoidance of discomfort that's worse than the discomfort itself. Once I get rollin' I'm a (frank)ing joy to be around.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Jan 27 @ 12:11 PM ET

- Feeling Glucky?


It's unbelievable
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Jan 27 @ 1:49 PM ET
Oh I know. It's inconceivable that he's an ass.
- Pecafan Fan

It's possible to be both.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Jan 27 @ 1:54 PM ET
It's possible to be both.
- daeth


Yes.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007
Jan 27 @ 2:43 PM ET
Hope? You're a long long long way from having anything that constitutes meaningful hope. You can hope your over priced roster of underachieving, overpaid losers can barely outperform a team $15m under the cap.
- Cape Breton Bruins

why didnt anyone tell me that poop got real in here
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007
Jan 27 @ 2:53 PM ET
why didnt anyone tell me that poop got real in here
- Crimsoninja

pffffff
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jan 27 @ 4:08 PM ET
I said that it's not unthinkable. Not that he's indeed an ass.
- Pecafan Fan



Ryan Kennedy ‏@THNRyanKennedy
For those who follow such things, Phil Kessel was very good with the media for All-Star weekend; did his share and had fun with it

I guess

http://www.pensionplanpup...led-dave-feschuk-an-idiot
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jan 27 @ 6:52 PM ET
Ryan Kennedy ‏@THNRyanKennedy
For those who follow such things, Phil Kessel was very good with the media for All-Star weekend; did his share and had fun with it

I guess

http://www.pensionplanpup...led-dave-feschuk-an-idiot
- senstroll

PPP is a better outlet than 100% of the "legitimate" media sources that cover the Leafs.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006
Jan 27 @ 11:37 PM ET
PPP is a better outlet than 100% of the "legitimate" media sources that cover the Leafs.
- Feeling Glucky?



AKA the consensus media?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011
Jan 27 @ 11:51 PM ET
At least Clarkson took a hometown discount!
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jan 28 @ 7:26 AM ET
AKA the consensus media?
- Doppleganger

Are you trying to turn this into a global warming thing?
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006
Jan 28 @ 7:58 AM ET
At least Clarkson took a hometown discount!
- golfingsince



Not a whole lot of difference between Richards contract and Clarksons'.


Richards was shopped around, with no takers, waived with no takers and he's a few years younger too.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jan 28 @ 8:33 AM ET
Not a whole lot of difference between Richards contract and Clarksons'.


Richards was shopped around, with no takers, waived with no takers and he's a few years younger too.
- Doppleganger



1 year younger but yes Clarkson is horrible and would clear waivers also
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006
Jan 28 @ 10:15 AM ET
1 year younger but yes Clarkson is horrible and would clear waivers also
- senstroll


Thought Richards was a little younger. L.A. could have used a "compliance buyout" last summer, but did not. What about the leafs? Did they use all their compliance buyouts?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Jan 28 @ 10:23 AM ET
Thought Richards was a little younger. L.A. could have used a "compliance buyout" last summer, but did not. What about the leafs? Did they use all their compliance buyouts?
- Doppleganger



Leaf compliance buyouts all used

Compliance buyouts ended this past summer, last time they could be used

No compliance buyouts were able to be used on those players signed after the lockout ended.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006
Jan 28 @ 10:34 AM ET
Leaf compliance buyouts all used

Compliance buyouts ended this past summer, last time they could be used

No compliance buyouts were able to be used on those players signed after the lockout ended.
- burn



So if Richards role on a team, that has won two of the last three Stanley Cups, was deemed not cap friendly, could the same be said of Clarkson?

The Kings are looking ahead to players they need to re-sign in the next couple of seasons and need all the cap space they can get.


There are some parallels with the leafs, if they decide to reboot, rebuild, blow up or retool, and need to free up cap space.

In the off season, there might be some takers for Richards for a team that needs to get to the Cap floor, as his Cap hit is high, but his actual annual salary declines over the life of the contract starting next season.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Jan 28 @ 10:37 AM ET
So if Richards role on a team, that has won two of the last three Stanley Cups, was deemed not cap friendly, could the same be said of Clarkson?

The Kings are looking ahead to players they need to re-sign in the next couple of seasons and need all the cap space they can get.


There are some parallels with the leafs, if they decide to reboot, rebuild, blow up or retool, and need to free up cap space.

In the off season, there might be some takers for Richards for a team that needs to get to the Cap floor, as his Cap hit is high, but his actual annual salary declines over the life of the contract starting next season.
- Doppleganger




You're seriously asking?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011
Jan 28 @ 10:40 AM ET
You're seriously asking?
- burn


Great signing, 30 goal scorer, hometown discount.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006
Jan 28 @ 10:42 AM ET
You're seriously asking?
- burn



Just wondering what you think might be happening, or what you think they should do.

Ride out the season, and wait for the draft to do anything?
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