Can't even swallow your pride long enough to give props on an incredible run. A run Leafs fans would be pounding their chest about if it were their team that accomplished something similar.
- Cape Breton Bruins

nobody hates the leafs more than leafs fans

nobody hates the leafs more than leafs fans
- daeth

I doubt no one actually hates the players, but hate how the team has been managed for the past decade, with their "Rinse lather repeat" style of assembling teams, and selling them (each time) as playoff contenders whenever a "re-tool" is made.

Every time "it's going to be different this time" is used, some fans buy into it and the cycle continues.

Now is this the time it's going to different?

until the results change i'll continue to believe it's just more of the same

until the results change i'll continue to believe it's just more of the same
- daeth

When should Nylander make his regular season debut with the leafs?

Next season, this fall, or after an entire season in the AHL, in Oct. 2016?

When should Nylander make his regular season debut with the leafs?

Next season, this fall, or after an entire season in the AHL, in Oct. 2016?
- Doppleganger

1-2 years? no need to rush him. if plays so well that you have to play him in the nhl earlier that's fine but i'd probably plan on having him grow in the ahl for quite a while.

no way I have to listen to the sens crap on the radio.
- senstroll

Fair enough. I get Oilers 24/7

Everything has changed, the leafs sat in 4th in the conference at .756 P%, and with a 95.5% chance of making the playoffs, on December 16th, that's less than 4 months ago.

The Senators were sitting 11 points back on the same date, with a .500 P% rating and about a 20% chance of making the playoffs.

Today the Senators see themselves finishing 7th in the division with 99 points, one less than the Red Wings, is making the Playoffs through the front door and barley had nothing to do with it, unless you're talking about the Senators sitting at home Last night having a beer will watching to see who they'd face in the first round.

Heck the Senators finished the 82 game season 13th overall in the league.
- Doppleganger

I mean over the last week... if the sens are out or in..doesnt change the situations. .

Sens are 13/14 (tied with 1 team)..thats in the middle of the league
and they needed a miracle run to get there...im glad it will primpt the sens to make some dumb moves.

I mean over the last week... if the sens are out or in..doesnt change the situations. .

Sens are 13/14 (tied with 1 team)..thats in the middle of the league
and they needed a miracle run to get there...im glad it will primpt the sens to make some dumb moves.
- senstroll

The playoff revenue alone is worth it in Ottawa.

Also, teams and players gain confidence by winning. It usually translates to more success.

Imagine if the Leafs wouldn't have choked in game 7 against the B's? They probably would have been a playoff team the past 2 seasons.

Insanity .

Says the same thing year after year despite proof otherwise.
- golfingsince

Do you see the Sens winning the cup with their core?

But just think of all that money the Senator's Owner is going to make from all the playoff home games, and all that attendance that will be selling out the CTC, and of course all the TV rating the Sens are going to get thought their playoff run.
- Doppleganger

CTC rent is magically gonna go up, and the sens will be getting more cheques from teams like the Leafs.

Melnyk

CTC rent is magically gonna go up, and the sens will be getting more cheques from teams like the Leafs.

Melnyk
- Feeling Glucky?

This post is the definition of "I know my team is way worse than yours, I'm incredibly bitter, but feel the need to pathetically try and insult your team somehow"

so so weak......

This post is the definition of "I know my team is way worse than yours, I'm incredibly bitter, but feel the need to pathetically try and insult your team somehow"

so so weak......
- sensarmy_11

He was asking about money, so I answered him.


Why would Melnyk change what's been working so far?

Do you see the Sens winning the cup with their core?
- Feeling Glucky?

They're a lot closer to it than a team that finished 27th. They don't have too many pieces to add.

They're a lot closer to it than a team that finished 27th. They don't have too many pieces to add.
- golfingsince

But how can they add those pieces?

Sens need a top line, 4-5 dmen, and a goalie to go as crazy as Hammond did down the stretch.

Think Hammond is going to repeat next season? Because without him, they'd have been battling with the Leafs in the bottom-5.

But how can they add those pieces?

Sens need a top line, 4-5 dmen, and a goalie to go as crazy as Hammond did down the stretch.

Think Hammond is going to repeat next season? Because without him, they'd have been battling with the Leafs in the bottom-5.
- Feeling Glucky?

Sens need much less than you think they do, since you are clearly biased.

They do have an elite Dman, something you dream that Rielly will turn into.

They can acquire one or two good pieces this year with a good draft.

Sens need much less than you think they do, since you are clearly biased.

They do have an elite Dman, something you dream that Rielly will turn into.

They can acquire one or two good pieces this year with a good draft.
- golfingsince

Yea. And 5 no-name guys to go with him.

They've got a couple of good second lines up front... but what it comes down to with them is goaltending. Do you honestly think they'd be in the playoffs with out Hammond's magic run?

And do you honestly see Melnyk spending the money to put them over the top?

Yea. And 5 no-name guys to go with him.

They've got a couple of good second lines up front... but what it comes down to with them is goaltending. Do you honestly think they'd be in the playoffs with out Hammond's magic run?

And do you honestly see Melnyk spending the money to put them over the top?
- Feeling Glucky?

your bitterness and jealousy (masked by an attempt to try and put the sens down) is delicious.

nothing better than a bitter and delusional leafs fan.

Yea. And 5 no-name guys to go with him.

They've got a couple of good second lines up front... but what it comes down to with them is goaltending. Do you honestly think they'd be in the playoffs with out Hammond's magic run?

And do you honestly see Melnyk spending the money to put them over the top?
- Feeling Glucky?

- sensarmy_11

Is that Eric staal grade 7 photo?

Is that Eric staal grade 7 photo?
- burn

your bitterness and jealousy (masked by an attempt to try and put the sens down) is delicious.

nothing better than a bitter and delusional leafs fan.
- sensarmy_11

It's an awesome run you guys are on, no doubt.


Just don't see it as more than a fluke run, give the roster.

It's an awesome run you guys are on, no doubt.


Just don't see it as more than a fluke run, give the roster.
- Feeling Glucky?

glucky........what you get when you merge hater and butthurt into one person.

will be interesting to see procks posts

uggghhhhh its actually getting painful to continue to come here......247 pages of the same arguments......right NOW the sense are in a better position......the play offs.........in 4 years is it possibly the leafs will be? yes if all the prospects turn out as they are projected, and all the sense prospects come back to earth........

He was asking about money, so I answered him.


Why would Melnyk change what's been working so far?
- Feeling Glucky?

I was only talking "your talk" as you can only measure the success of a NHL team by the amount of money it make, the attendance number and the TV rating.

These are the three most important things, in your eyes, for a NHL team. That's always how you respond when it's pointed out how the leafs performance on the ice over the past decade has been dwarfed by the Senators.

Your standard come back is always "leafs always sell out, always have higher TV rating and the teams owners are making a TON of cash"

So over the past decade Ottawa has played 56 playoff games, including 27 home games. While the have amassed a grand total of 7 playoff games with 3 home games.

So in the three key categories that YOU always laud over Senator fans, during the regular season, the Senators have been demolishing the leafs in all three when it comes to playoff performance.