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senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jun 17 @ 9:26 AM ET
Sens need Tobias Lindberg to pan out to get anything of value from the Bishop trade
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jun 17 @ 3:30 PM ET
Sens need Tobias Lindberg to pan out to get anything of value from the Bishop trade
- senstroll

according to garrioch, they're looking for quite the package for their goaltenders.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Jun 17 @ 3:42 PM ET
according to garrioch, they're looking for quite the package for their goaltenders.
- Feeling Glucky?

a 2nd rounder?
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jun 17 @ 3:47 PM ET
a 2nd rounder?
- daeth

top-6 forward and a pick
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Jun 17 @ 3:52 PM ET
top-6 forward and a pick
- Schenn-Sational!

The goalie market is weird. Usually they're worth poop but once in a while you get a Varlamov trade.
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jun 17 @ 4:01 PM ET
The goalie market is weird. Usually they're worth poop but once in a while you get a Varlamov trade.
- daeth

This is true.

But do you see anyone paying that for Lehner?

It'd be a stretch for Anderson, but possible... meaning Ottawa goes into next season with a combined 100 games worth of goaltending.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Jun 17 @ 4:07 PM ET
This is true.

But do you see anyone paying that for Lehner?

It'd be a stretch for Anderson, but possible... meaning Ottawa goes into next season with a combined 100 games worth of goaltending.
- Schenn-Sational!

I didn't see anyone doing that for Varlamov yet it happened. I wonder if Colorado would make that trade again. He's a solid goalie but man, steep price.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jun 17 @ 4:26 PM ET
This is true.

But do you see anyone paying that for Lehner?

It'd be a stretch for Anderson, but possible... meaning Ottawa goes into next season with a combined 100 games worth of goaltending.
- Schenn-Sational!


I think they could get the best return for Anderson, but based on last season and the expectations going into this season.. they need a legit starter imo.

I have a hard time believing hamburger helper will be a legit starter.. Lehner has decent upside..I would keep him if I were the sens, but he is really no guarantee either.

It may come down to budget and Anderson is the odd man out..and the sens could have a disappointing ..lets hope
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jun 17 @ 4:37 PM ET
I didn't see anyone doing that for Varlamov yet it happened. I wonder if Colorado would make that trade again. He's a solid goalie but man, steep price.
- daeth

Amazing what Forsberg has been traded for
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Jun 17 @ 4:42 PM ET
Amazing what Forsberg has been traded for
- Schenn-Sational!

What was Washington thinking with that one?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jun 17 @ 5:27 PM ET
Personally, I think the Sens signing a 4th round pick with mediocre stats really puts this thread to bed.
- Schenn-Sational!



Mark Stone was a fifth round pick.
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jun 17 @ 6:29 PM ET
Mark Stone was a fifth round pick.
- D0PPELGANGER

It's a good thing I only mentioned draft position and nothing else, otherwise your response would be a waste of bytes.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jun 17 @ 10:59 PM ET
It's a good thing I only mentioned draft position and nothing else, otherwise your response would be a waste of bytes.
- Schenn-Sational!


like yours.
habman75
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Wolf River, QC
Joined: 09.07.2007
Jun 17 @ 11:56 PM ET
like yours.
- D0PPELGANGER



Ouch Gluck, you just got burned.... HUGE!!!
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jun 18 @ 8:59 AM ET
Ouch Gluck, you just got burned.... HUGE!!!
- habman75

It's ok man, I got some polysporin. I'll be good.


Man, he got me so good though.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jun 26 @ 7:08 AM ET

The Ottawa Senators agreed to terms with forwards Mark Stone and Mika Zibanejad on contract extensions, the club announced Thursday.




http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=772132
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jun 26 @ 7:37 AM ET
The Ottawa Senators agreed to terms with forwards Mark Stone and Mika Zibanejad on contract extensions, the club announced Thursday.




http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=772132
- D0PPELGANGER



fair deals ..I would have tried to lock up Z for longer...would be more AAV...but in the long run better value for the club

But then again could be another Cowan contract if the player doesnt take the next steps
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jun 26 @ 9:07 AM ET
fair deals ..I would have tried to lock up Z for longer...would be more AAV...but in the long run better value for the club

But then again could be another Cowan contract if the player doesnt take the next steps
- senstroll



Cowen needs to recuperate from his most recent surgery, and train for the rest of the summer, and play the full season to see what he is, in the NHL
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
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Jun 26 @ 9:58 AM ET
Cowen needs to recuperate from his most recent surgery, and train for the rest of the summer, and play the full season to see what he is, in the NHL
- D0PPELGANGER

How many surgeries has he had so far?

I remember he had one before being drafted, and Burke mentioning that they'd draft him if they felt it wouldn't hold him back.
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jun 26 @ 10:02 AM ET
Pretty damned good value for Lehner and a cap dump though.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Jun 26 @ 12:24 PM ET
Pretty damned good value for Lehner and a cap dump though.
- Schenn-Sational!

It's best to not even try to guess goalie values at this point lol
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jun 26 @ 12:42 PM ET
Pretty damned good value for Lehner and a cap dump though.
- Schenn-Sational!



Not happy to see Lehner go, but surprised Murray was able to get a 1st round pick, and also unload a veteran to free up ice time for a younger player, or perhaps help to re-sign Condra.

Fear is that Lehner will develop along the lines of Bishop, and have both in same division for foreseeable future.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jun 26 @ 12:43 PM ET
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Expect OTT to try to package the 18th and 21st picks in tonight's draft to move up and pick earlier in the first round. #TSN
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Jun 26 @ 12:44 PM ET
Not happy to see Lehner go, but surprised Murray was able to get a 1st round pick, and also unload a veteran to free up ice time for a younger player, or perhaps help to re-sign Condra.

Fear is that Lehner will develop along the lines of Bishop, and have both in same division for foreseeable future.
- D0PPELGANGER


Most likely to recoup the money after signing Zibanejad and Stone...
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jun 26 @ 1:00 PM ET
Most likely to recoup the money after signing Zibanejad and Stone...
- Pecafan Fan


Yes that too is a consideration.

So far as I can see the "Cap Hit" for next season now stands at 61.486 Million, up from 58.611 Million from last season, with only Chiasson & Hoffman left unsigned.
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