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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Nov 1 @ 12:05 PM ET
harsh but fair
- daeth


Agreed.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Nov 2 @ 10:22 AM ET
http://www.hockeysfuture....duo-fall-top-10/#/slide/1

Leafs #7, #8
Sens #49

Leafs better
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 2 @ 10:24 AM ET
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/130703/top-50-nhl-prospects-oilers-sabres-leafs-place-duo-fall-top-10/#/slide/1

Leafs #7, #8
Sens #49

Leafs better
- senstroll

Larkin and Ehlers above Marner and Nylander is kinda questionable.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008
Nov 2 @ 10:28 AM ET
Larkin and Ehlers above Marner and Nylander is kinda questionable.
- Feeling Glucky?
Kid is going to be a stud,give him a couple of year,s.Far too many team,s rush kids into the nhl ,glad to see Toronto resisting this
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Nov 2 @ 10:38 AM ET
Larkin and Ehlers above Marner and Nylander is kinda questionable.
- Feeling Glucky?



Meh.. they are playing in the NHL and contributing ..but are also 1 year ahead of Marner

Marner is starting to heat up..will be fun to Watch.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 2 @ 10:55 AM ET
Meh.. they are playing in the NHL and contributing ..but are also 1 year ahead of Marner

Marner is starting to heat up..will be fun to Watch.
- senstroll

Yea wasn't worried about his early season production, started slow last year, too... What else is interesting to watch is pinnich's progression with Marner. Could be a couple of guys that wind up playing together.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011
Nov 3 @ 8:08 PM ET
Larkin and Ehlers above Marner and Nylander is kinda questionable.
- Feeling Glucky?


You mean questionable because they're already NHL players?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 3 @ 8:25 PM ET
You mean questionable because they're already NHL players?
- golfingsince

Yes. Because if you look at Junior stats, Marner>>Ehlers.

Leafs are keeping Nylander in the AHL to spare him the poopshow this season is. Not exactly his fault... was clearly ready in pre-season, and hasn't looked back since joining the Marlies.

Like I said though, questionable... not wrong. It could go either way IMO.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011
Nov 3 @ 8:48 PM ET
Yes. Because if you look at Junior stats, Marner>>Ehlers.

Leafs are keeping Nylander in the AHL to spare him the poopshow this season is. Not exactly his fault... was clearly ready in pre-season, and hasn't looked back since joining the Marlies.

Like I said though, questionable... not wrong. It could go either way IMO.
- Feeling Glucky?


If you look a junior stats they played in a different league.

Just like if you look at pro stats.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 3 @ 8:57 PM ET
If you look a junior stats they played in a different league.

Just like if you look at pro stats.
- golfingsince

Yes.


Ehlers did play in a higher scoring junior league.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Nov 4 @ 7:20 AM ET
Yes.


Ehlers did play in a higher scoring junior league.
- Feeling Glucky?




The OHL is just the same nowadays.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 4 @ 8:23 AM ET


The OHL is just the same nowadays.
- Pecafan Fan



Nonetheless... Marner's predraft season was more impressive than Ehler's post-draft. It's by no means ridiculous to say Marner could be ranked above him.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Nov 4 @ 8:26 AM ET


Nonetheless... Marner's predraft season was more impressive than Ehler's post-draft. It's by no means ridiculous to say Marner could be ranked above him.
- Feeling Glucky?


Whatever they do in junior doesn't matter in the NHL. It's a different game.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 4 @ 8:35 AM ET
Whatever they do in junior doesn't matter in the NHL. It's a different game.
- Pecafan Fan

Junior stats are one of the best predictors or NHL success. Sure, not everyone who succeeds at the junior level will be good at the NHL level... and some guys who look like nothing in Junior might turn it on once they get to the higher levels... but generally speaking... if you're putting up 2ppg pre-draft, you're gonna do damn well.


Marner also gets lots of credit for playing a 2-way game, and is developing as a centre.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Nov 4 @ 8:37 AM ET
Junior stats are one of the best predictors or NHL success. Sure, not everyone who succeeds at the junior level will be good at the NHL level... and some guys who look like nothing in Junior might turn it on once they get to the higher levels... but generally speaking... if you're putting up 2ppg pre-draft, you're gonna do damn well.
- Feeling Glucky?


My point is Marner could be the next Crosby or the next Jonathan Drouin.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 4 @ 8:39 AM ET
My point is Marner could be the next Crosby or the next Jonathan Drouin.
- Pecafan Fan

I'm OK with either... Drouin's got 6 points in 10 games so far this season as a 20 year old.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Nov 4 @ 8:39 AM ET
My point is Marner could be the next Crosby or the next Jonathan Drouin.
- Pecafan Fan



I think he will be the first Mitch Marner
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Nov 4 @ 8:40 AM ET
I think he will be the first Mitch Marner
- senstroll


So unique.... so so unique. Like nothing the NHL witnessed to date!!!!
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 4 @ 8:40 AM ET
I think he will be the first Mitch Marner
- senstroll

King Marner, the first of his name.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 4 @ 8:42 AM ET
So unique.... so so unique. Like nothing the NHL witnessed to date!!!!
- Pecafan Fan

Next time hf does these rankings, Leafs might have Marner and Nylander at 1&2, since everyone else ahead of them is playing in the NHL and will likely be graduated by then.

And then this time next year, they could legitimately have 3 in the top-5/10


And it'd all mean absolutely nothing, because when has HF ever mattered?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Nov 4 @ 8:43 AM ET
Next time hf does these rankings, Leafs might have Marner and Nylander at 1&2, since everyone else ahead of them is playing in the NHL and will likely be graduated by then.

And then this time next year, they could legitimately have 3 in the top-5/10


And it'd all mean absolutely nothing, because when has HF ever mattered?
- Feeling Glucky?

exactly.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 4 @ 8:48 AM ET
exactly.
- Pecafan Fan

Gotta be excited about something as a Leafs fan.


Rielly at 8 points in 11 games with next to no powerplay time is pretty sweet, I guess.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Nov 6 @ 12:19 PM ET
Whatever they do in junior doesn't matter in the NHL. It's a different game.
- Pecafan Fan



Rob Vollman ‏@robvollmanNHL

Updated Translation Factors:
.80 KHL
.60 SHL
.47 AHL
.41 NCHC
.40 NLA
.39 ECAC
.36 Big-10
.33 CCHA
.32 OHL
.29 H-East, Fin
.27 WHL
.26 QMJHL
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Nov 6 @ 12:20 PM ET
Next time hf does these rankings, Leafs might have Marner and Nylander at 1&2, since everyone else ahead of them is playing in the NHL and will likely be graduated by then.

And then this time next year, they could legitimately have 3 in the top-5/10


And it'd all mean absolutely nothing, because when has HF ever mattered?
- Feeling Glucky?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Nov 6 @ 9:09 PM ET
Rob Vollman ‏@robvollmanNHL

Updated Translation Factors:
.80 KHL
.60 SHL
.47 AHL
.41 NCHC
.40 NLA
.39 ECAC
.36 Big-10
.33 CCHA
.32 OHL
.29 H-East, Fin
.27 WHL
.26 QMJHL
- senstroll

yes?
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