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senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Nov 18 @ 12:56 PM ET
It's what I mean, yes.
- Pecafan Fan


sure it is..every post from you has to be the extreme

If you tank you are the Oilers and will never win
If you dont win the cup you are not a contender



daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Nov 18 @ 12:56 PM ET
They are averaging over 100 points a year. If that doesn't make them a consistent contender then I don't know what to say.

Were they the cup favourite all those years? No.. but that's not what it means when you say a team is a contender.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Nov 18 @ 12:57 PM ET
according to you you have to win the cup to be a contender
- senstroll


does that mean Montreal is a cup contenter most of the time?

EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T TANK???
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Nov 18 @ 12:58 PM ET
sure it is..every post from you has to be the extreme

If you tank you are the Oilers and will never win
If you dont win the cup you are not a contender




- senstroll


yeah, because tanking in order to get the first overall pick isn't the extreme...
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Nov 18 @ 1:00 PM ET
yeah, because tanking in order to get the first overall pick isn't the extreme...
- Pecafan Fan



You are a contender for dumbest posts of the day
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 18 @ 1:06 PM ET
You are a contender for dumbest posts of the day
- senstroll

Jesus
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 18 @ 1:15 PM ET
does that mean Montreal is a cup contenter most of the time?

EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T TANK???
- Pecafan Fan

Montreal has been a contender lately. Some good drafting and, obviously, Price has them set up very well.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Nov 18 @ 1:31 PM ET
You are a contender for dumbest posts of the day
- senstroll


Sorry to steal your crown.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Nov 18 @ 3:31 PM ET
Sorry to steal your crown.
- Pecafan Fan



meh...its wasnt even a fair fight...you got so much more experience
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 18 @ 3:34 PM ET
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Nov 18 @ 3:39 PM ET
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
- Feeling Glucky?



did you know if you average 105 points a season for like 10 years, you are not considered a contender for the cup.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Nov 18 @ 3:40 PM ET
Leafs management has said all along this year not to get excited about this season, as it would be a long rebuilding phase. Ottawa on the other hand was supposed to be a good team and contend for the cup. Who's in a better spot right now?
- Jay Gulley



this was the first post of this thread
it pretty much applies today

we have wasted so much time.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 18 @ 3:43 PM ET
this was the first post of this thread
it pretty much applies today

we have wasted so much time.
- senstroll
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 18 @ 3:43 PM ET
did you know if you average 105 points a season for like 10 years, you are not considered a contender for the cup.
- senstroll

Some years, they put up points, but really don't look like contenders.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Nov 18 @ 3:59 PM ET
Some years, they put up points, but really don't look like contenders.
- Feeling Glucky?


Their defence (coupled with playoffs Fleury) kills their changes.

But hey, over 100pts!
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Nov 19 @ 4:43 PM ET
need to post here also

In Swedish Junior: Nylander scored at a 1.6 Points Per Game (PPG) pace. Faster than any 16 year old in a decade. Faster than Landeskog, the Sedins, Filip Forsberg, or Gustav Nyquist. The Allsvenskan: He then went on to the Swedish AHL-equivalent, where he scored faster than any 17 year old ever. Faster than Forsberg and Pastrnak and Burakowsky and Backlund and, well… everyone, right? In the SHL: he scored faster than any 18 year old had in 20 years. Faster than both Sedins, Anze Kopitar, and Peter Forsberg. Look, he scored faster than Mats Sundin, and he did this on a disastrously bad, last-place MODO team. AHL: After Nylander ran out of runway in Sweden, he got called over to the AHL. A mid-season change of language, team-mates, rink size and so on is not easy. The result? Well, in 37 games he scored more points than any 18 year old had in five years. He upped his scoring rate every. single. month. as he adjusted, rising from 0.5 to 0.6 to 0.9 to 1.3 PPG — just as he had scaled up his scoring rate in the SHL. He finished the season with 15 points in the last 10 games. International: At every age — 17, 18 and 20 — Nylander has scored more than 1.4 PPG at the Worlds. Pause on that and hit replay for a second: At every age — 17, 18 and 20 — Nylander has scored more than 1.4 PPG at the Worlds. He was the top scorer at the World Under 18’s, and just one point off the lead at last year’s World Junior Championship.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007
Nov 21 @ 4:14 PM ET
Love that the sabres were scumbags for tanking but now that the least are doing it, it's the only logical thing to do...
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Nov 21 @ 4:21 PM ET
Love that the sabres were scumbags for tanking but now that the least are doing it, it's the only logical thing to do...
- muffin_man

toronto's on pace for like an 8th or 9th overall pick. i'd suggest this tank is a little less obvious.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 21 @ 4:47 PM ET
toronto's on pace for like an 8th or 9th overall pick. i'd suggest this tank is a little less obvious.
- daeth

Leafs traded away one player, and signed arguably the best coach in the league.

The Leafs are not a great team on the ice, but the Sabres did everything they could to be historically bad.


In the Leaf's position right now, either Babcock gets them to overachieve, which is great, because most of the guys signed long term won't be traded, so ensuring they adopt the system is great, or they fall in the standings and get a great pick.

Either way, it's good for the Leafs.

Which is why they're in a better situation.
habman75
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Wolf River, QC
Joined: 09.07.2007
Nov 21 @ 5:11 PM ET
Leafs traded away one player, and signed arguably the best coach in the league.

The Leafs are not a great team on the ice, but the Sabres did everything they could to be historically bad.


In the Leaf's position right now, either Babcock gets them to overachieve, which is great, because most of the guys signed long term won't be traded, so ensuring they adopt the system is great, or they fall in the standings and get a great pick.

Either way, it's good for the Leafs.

Which is why they're in a better situation.
- Feeling Glucky?
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007
Nov 21 @ 5:54 PM ET
Leafs traded away one player, and signed arguably the best coach in the league.

The Leafs are not a great team on the ice, but the Sabres did everything they could to be historically bad.


In the Leaf's position right now, either Babcock gets them to overachieve, which is great, because most of the guys signed long term won't be traded, so ensuring they adopt the system is great, or they fall in the standings and get a great pick.

Either way, it's good for the Leafs.

Which is why they're in a better situation.
- Feeling Glucky?

please god continue to be bad but not bad enough

Lets not pretend they are trying to make the playoffs. McKenzie reported this week that they will be trading everyone tradeable at the deadline regardless of where they are in the standings. Babcock has been told his job is to get the most out of the players to up their value.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007
Nov 21 @ 5:55 PM ET
toronto's on pace for like an 8th or 9th overall pick. i'd suggest this tank is a little less obvious.
- daeth

People here thought the sabres were making the playoffs when they went on a mid-season tear kinda like the leafs have done recently. hot streaks don't change that its still tank nation.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Nov 21 @ 5:57 PM ET
People here thought the sabres were making the playoffs when they went on a mid-season tear kinda like the leafs have done recently. hot streaks don't change that its still tank nation.
- muffin_man

nobody thought the sabres were making the playoffs outside of buffalo. nobody thought they would finish anything but last in fact.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007
Nov 21 @ 6:02 PM ET
nobody thought the sabres were making the playoffs outside of buffalo. nobody thought they would finish anything but last in fact.
- daeth

Let me clarify that I live in Buffalo so when I said "People here," it made your reply quite useless.

That said, no one outside of Toronto thinks the leafs will finish with anything but a top 5 pick.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Nov 21 @ 6:06 PM ET
Let me clarify that I live in Buffalo so when I said "People here," it made your reply quite useless.

That said, no one outside of Toronto thinks the leafs will finish with anything but a top 5 pick.
- muffin_man

Oh, you really need this internet victory then. My condolences on your living situation.
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