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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 21 @ 6:22 PM ET
please god continue to be bad but not bad enough

Lets not pretend they are trying to make the playoffs. McKenzie reported this week that they will be trading everyone tradeable at the deadline regardless of where they are in the standings. Babcock has been told his job is to get the most out of the players to up their value.
- muffin_man

Somehow, I don't feel like losing PAP, Grabner, and whatever other UFAs will be traded, and replacing them with the likes of Nylander, Brown, Kapanen, etc, will hurt the Leafs.


Lets be honest here... Lupul/Phaneuf/Bozak aren't going anywhere. Very rare multi-year deals get traded at the deadline
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Nov 21 @ 6:24 PM ET
Somehow, I don't feel like losing PAP, Grabner, and whatever other UFAs will be traded, and replacing them with the likes of Nylander, Brown, Kapanen, etc, will hurt the Leafs.


Lets be honest here... Lupul/Phaneuf/Bozak aren't going anywhere. Very rare multi-year deals get traded at the deadline
- Feeling Glucky?

Also who would trade for Lupul or Bozak?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 21 @ 6:47 PM ET
Also who would trade for Lupul or Bozak?
- daeth

It's definitely possible this is a hot-streak. Possession numbers haven't been great lately, but goaltending from Reimer has been great. His performance is a big reason for the Leaf's record of late.
habman75
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Wolf River, QC
Joined: 09.07.2007
Nov 21 @ 6:57 PM ET
It's definitely possible this is a hot-streak. Possession numbers haven't been great lately, but goaltending from Reimer has been great. His performance is a big reason for the Leaf's record of late.
- Feeling Glucky?



The Leafs are nothing without Reimer...
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 21 @ 7:05 PM ET
The Leafs are nothing without Reimer...
- habman75
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Nov 21 @ 7:06 PM ET
They have very little talent but all it'll take is for them to get decent goaltending for them to stick around where they are now. There are so many bad teams in the league. The difference between 20th and 30th is almost nothing.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 21 @ 7:08 PM ET
They have very little talent but all it'll take is for them to get decent goaltending for them to stick around where they are now. There are so many bad teams in the league. The difference between 20th and 30th is almost nothing.
- daeth

4 points out of the playoffs.


FFS they have 1 less ROW than the Sens.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Nov 21 @ 7:13 PM ET
4 points out of the playoffs.


FFS they have 1 less ROW than the Sens.

- Feeling Glucky?

The Sens are a mess, not even trolling. What are they even building towards at this point.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011
Nov 21 @ 9:12 PM ET
Also who would trade for Lupul or Bozak?
- daeth


So Lupus is no longer worth a t 1st and top 6 ?
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007
Nov 21 @ 9:21 PM ET
The Sens are a mess, not even trolling. What are they even building towards at this point.
- daeth

This cannot be overstated. Kinda like the flyers. They seem to think they are contenders so they make bad signings or trade away younger players to keeo anderson
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008
Nov 21 @ 10:31 PM ET
This cannot be overstated. Kinda like the flyers. They seem to think they are contenders so they make bad signings or trade away younger players to keeo anderson
- muffin_man

clueless
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 22 @ 12:35 AM ET
clueless
- top shelf 15

Agreed. No clue what the Sens are doing.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 22 @ 12:46 AM ET
So Lupus is no longer worth a t 1st and top 6 ?
- golfingsince

If he stays healthy, and produces well, I can see that in the offseason. But big contracts rarely move on trade deadline day.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008
Nov 22 @ 5:33 AM ET
Agreed. No clue what the Sens are doing.
- Feeling Glucky?
Building a team through the draft maybe??
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Nov 22 @ 3:51 PM ET
Building a team through the draft maybe??

- top shelf 15


Cody Ceci
Mark Stone
Mike Hoffman
Erik Karlsson
Zack Smith
Mark Borowiecki
Patrick Wiercioch
Chris Wideman
Jared Cowen
Jean-Gabriel Pageau
Shane Prince
Matt Puempel
Mika Zibanejad
Curtis Lazar

All drafted by Ottawa in the past 8 Entry drafts, and are currently on the NHL Roster.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008
Nov 22 @ 9:14 PM ET
Cody Ceci
Mark Stone
Mike Hoffman
Erik Karlsson
Zack Smith
Mark Borowiecki
Patrick Wiercioch
Chris Wideman
Jared Cowen
Jean-Gabriel Pageau
Shane Prince
Matt Puempel
Mika Zibanejad
Curtis Lazar

All drafted by Ottawa in the past 8 Entry drafts, and are currently on the NHL Roster.
- D0PPELGANGER

Real funny thing is we are probably younger than the leafs
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Nov 22 @ 9:45 PM ET
Real funny thing is we are probably younger than the leafs
- top shelf 15

the leafs are old this year. they signed a bunch of geezers so they can try to turn them into assets at the trade deadline. by doing that they are giving their prospects time to develop away from this mess as well, something they've failed to do for eternity.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Nov 22 @ 11:10 PM ET
Cody Ceci
Mark Stone
Mike Hoffman
Erik Karlsson
Zack Smith
Mark Borowiecki
Patrick Wiercioch
Chris Wideman
Jared Cowen
Jean-Gabriel Pageau
Shane Prince
Matt Puempel
Mika Zibanejad
Curtis Lazar

All drafted by Ottawa in the past 8 Entry drafts, and are currently on the NHL Roster.
- D0PPELGANGER

I guess this is as good an explanation as any as to why they're struggling to win as many games as they lose.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008
Nov 23 @ 5:40 AM ET
the leafs are old this year. they signed a bunch of geezers so they can try to turn them into assets at the trade deadline. by doing that they are giving their prospects time to develop away from this mess as well, something they've failed to do for eternity.
- daeth

Yep, just like we used our old core to facilitate the exact same thing.There is a bit of gap right now ,with so many graduated players up with the big club.That our farm team is pretty depleted,as most of our best youth is still in junior
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008
Nov 23 @ 5:42 AM ET
I guess this is as good an explanation as any as to why they're struggling to win as many games as they lose.
- Feeling Glucky?
Meh, they go a million miles an hour both ways .The forwards for the most part have been pretty good ,the defense after our top 3 well.......
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Nov 23 @ 9:25 AM ET
please god continue to be bad but not bad enough

Lets not pretend they are trying to make the playoffs. McKenzie reported this week that they will be trading everyone tradeable at the deadline regardless of where they are in the standings. Babcock has been told his job is to get the most out of the players to up their value.
- muffin_man




that sounds like a well run team with Management who gets it
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Nov 23 @ 9:35 AM ET
I guess this is as good an explanation as any as to why they're struggling to win as many games as they lose.
- Feeling Glucky?


21st overall in ROWs

Tied for 7th overall in Points

The "struggling " is in their defensive zone, and will need to improve.

However, all things considered, in a better situation than the leafs.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Nov 23 @ 9:36 AM ET
Yep, just like we used our old core to facilitate the exact same thing.There is a bit of gap right now ,with so many graduated players up with the big club.That our farm team is pretty depleted,as most of our best youth is still in junior
- top shelf 15


And in US college programs.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Nov 23 @ 9:51 AM ET
21st overall in ROWs

Tied for 7th overall in Points

The "struggling " is in their defensive zone, and will need to improve.

However, all things considered, in a better situation than the leafs.
- D0PPELGANGER



the leafs were winning games with RC in similar fashion. Were able to sit in a playoff spot for while with lots of loser points and not many ROW..getting outshot every game..but that stuff comes crashing down.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008
Nov 23 @ 10:10 AM ET
the leafs were winning games with RC in similar fashion. Were able to sit in a playoff spot for while with lots of loser points and not many ROW..getting outshot every game..but that stuff comes crashing down.
- senstroll
Meh ,its called defense quick .We arent a strong posession team ,so we let them have the shots to regain the puck
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