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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jan 23 @ 5:41 PM ET
The Calder Cup is won in the Playoffs, take a look at how many playoff games, future Senator NHLers, or have been traded for assets, played in the playoffs.



Erik Condra 23
Zack Smith 23
Colin Greening 23
Mark Borowiecki 21
Robin Lehner 19
Mike Hoffman 19
Patrick Wiercioch 15
Eric Gryba 10

there were others that did not work out to benefit Ottawa (via trade) as well.

Jim O'Brien 23
Andre Benoit 23
Erik Condra 23
Bobby Butler 23
- D0PPELGANGER


Good for them, they were there.

What does it matter if they weren't the driving forces?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jan 23 @ 5:44 PM ET
Chicago also won the draft lottery in 2007, and picked first overall, Patrick Kane, who turned out to be a pretty good player, as did Chicago's third overall pick the year (2006) before, their current Captain.

The highest Ottawa has picked in the past 10 drafts was 6th, because they have this knack of making the playoffs.

So Ottawa also traded for the guy selected after Sidney Crosby, and they also have a two time Norris winner as their elite building blocks .............. do the leafs have any?
- D0PPELGANGER



Shame he's a 2nd/3rd liner.


Your Norris winner is a good forward, but a terrible defenseman... and just a couple of years away from his prime, while the team regresses around him.


So, good job on wasting that talent.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Jan 23 @ 5:53 PM ET
remember when ottawa could've drafted tarasenko
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Jan 23 @ 5:54 PM ET
not that they could've afforded his current contract anyway
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Jan 23 @ 5:54 PM ET
cause their owner is cheap
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Jan 23 @ 5:54 PM ET
LEAFS
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008
Jan 23 @ 7:45 PM ET
LEAFS
- daeth

100%
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011
Jan 24 @ 3:30 AM ET
remember when ottawa could've drafted tarasenko
- daeth


Who doesn't ? It's the year the Leafs could have drafted Sequin and the year before they could have drafted Doug Hamilton.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jan 24 @ 8:28 AM ET
Good for them, they were there.

What does it matter if they weren't the driving forces?
- Feeling Glucky?



They were, at least in the games I watched. Oh and one of them won the Playoffs MVP award.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jan 24 @ 8:39 AM ET
remember when ottawa could've drafted tarasenko
- daeth


remember when toronto could've drafted Roberto Luongo, Tyler Seguin/Taylor Hall, Dougie Hamilton, Cam Ward, Claude Giroux, Erik Karlsson, Jordan Eberle or Jacob Trouba?
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Jan 24 @ 9:22 AM ET
remember when toronto could've drafted Roberto Luongo, Tyler Seguin/Taylor Hall, Dougie Hamilton, Cam Ward, Claude Giroux, Erik Karlsson, Jordan Eberle or Jacob Trouba?
- D0PPELGANGER

not really no
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Jan 24 @ 9:22 AM ET
Who doesn't ? It's the year the Leafs could have drafted Sequin and the year before they could have drafted Doug Hamilton.
- golfingsince

LEAFS
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007
Jan 24 @ 10:59 AM ET
I would definitely say Leafs, going foward
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011
Jan 24 @ 3:15 PM ET
I would definitely say Leafs, going foward
- the_cause2000


The thing is, the Leafs are rarely going forward.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008
Jan 24 @ 3:27 PM ET
The thing is, the Leafs are rarely going forward.
- golfingsince

If the Leafs are in neutral the Sens are in reverse.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Jan 24 @ 3:34 PM ET
If the Leafs are in neutral the Sens are in reverse.
- Cape Breton Bruins

100%
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jan 25 @ 8:46 AM ET
re-build still in progress ............
- D0PPELGANGER


yes..going into year 5 of the 3 year rebuild
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jan 25 @ 9:18 AM ET
yes..going into year 5 of the 3 year rebuild
- senstroll


Are the leafs in year one of their three year rebuild?

If yes, then a Stanley Cup before the end of this decade?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jan 25 @ 10:03 AM ET
Are the leafs in year one of their three year rebuild?

If yes, then a Stanley Cup before the end of this decade?
- D0PPELGANGER


Leafs started in 2014...imo when Dubas was hired, thats when the philosophy changed
and actually the 2014 draft was Still under Nonis, they took Nylander, it would be interesting to hear whos call that was. the rest of 2014 draft is pretty meh

they have not promoted any players from the 2014 or 15 draft yet, and the Marlies are dominating, in a short period they have transformed them into a powerhouse, on pace to have the best record ever for an AHL team. I think Binghamton hold the record. its easy to see how this will translate into success for the Leafs going forward. the depth they are creating with the Marlies is impressive. it doesnt matter who is out, Nylander, Brown, Leivo ..they just keep rolling..they have used 6 goalies.

it will take a few more seasons before we see the results. Its a good time to be a leafs fans...no so much a sens fan



daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Jan 25 @ 10:10 AM ET
Leafs started in 2014...imo when Dubas was hired, thats when the philosophy changed
and actually the 2014 draft was Still under Nonis, they took Nylander, it would be interesting to hear whos call that was. the rest of 2014 draft is pretty meh

they have not promoted any players from the 2014 or 15 draft yet, and the Marlies are dominating, in a short period they have transformed them into a powerhouse, on pace to have the best record ever for an AHL team. I think Binghamton hold the record. its easy to see how this will translate into success for the Leafs going forward. the depth they are creating with the Marlies is impressive. it doesnt matter who is out, Nylander, Brown, Leivo ..they just keep rolling..they have used 6 goalies.

it will take a few more seasons before we see the results. Its a good time to be a leafs fans...no so much a sens fan
- senstroll

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top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008
Jan 25 @ 10:15 AM ET
Didnt realise there is a time clock on how long it takes for a team to build itself into a champion
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Jan 25 @ 10:21 AM ET
Didnt realise there is a time clock on how long it takes for a team to build itself into a champion
- top shelf 15

neither did the sens
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jan 25 @ 10:21 AM ET
100%
- daeth



also
2016 Draft picks

Sens - 6
Leafs 11
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jan 25 @ 10:47 AM ET
neither did the sens
- daeth
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jan 25 @ 11:41 AM ET
They were, at least in the games I watched. Oh and one of them won the Playoffs MVP award.
- D0PPELGANGER

Except they're mostly old as far as prospects go. Look at Hoffman. He's already 26... He's at his prime already. It's not a young guy who's improving, it's a guy you hope can keep this level up long enough to be a valuable top six winger when the team gets its poop together.
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